Tommy
Administrator
Member since January 2013
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Post by Tommy on Jan 4, 2018 15:57:23 GMT -5
While the information had been updated and links worked, I’ve received some nasty emails and that is unfortunate. I apologize on behalf of the forum if it was from someone here being nasty about it. Thank you for the time and energy you put into those and to keeping them alive - they no doubt served a great purpose over the years. If you change your mind let me know and I can help find a less obtrusive way to display the links again using our own server. Tommy
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Shelbeeray
has rocks in the head
Member since January 2006
Posts: 688
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Post by Shelbeeray on Jan 22, 2018 13:11:02 GMT -5
I have removed the tutorials. While the information had been updated and links worked, I’ve received some nasty emails and that is unfortunate. I made the tutorials and provided them for free. I do not want anyone sharing the tutorials anymore, so please don’t add links to versions you may have saved. I believe there is enough info here now to fill in the gap as the group and forums have grown a lot over the past 8 years. Happy Tumbling That’s what you get for being nice. What were the complaints? I cannot prove that the comments all came from people in the forum. Several stated they had gotten them here, but not all detailed where they accessed the tutorials. The most recent have been gender based insults, several said I should leave tutorials to the experts, some, in very rude terms, stated that I wasted their time and paper, should never have made it. A lot of technical criticisms s demanding that I update the tutorial, a couple even said I should have compensated them for their time, which they felt I wasted. Based on the links in them, and some of the comments, many appear to have discovered the tutorials here. Early on, when I first shared the tutorials I received good, constructive criticism. For a time I had stepped away because I was focused on some health issues and links had broken because I had completely forgotten about them being listed here, folks got annoyed and some extremely upset. I've noticed over the past, well, year, that the messages were getting nastier, all appeared to be from males who chose to make extremely inappropriate comments while complaining and a few were beyond the pale. I probably should have kept the messages and acted on them, but I don't have time or the interest to waste on folks like that. I think things have simply changed recently in how people communicate. I had intended to update them, but because of this experience I don't have the enthusiasm. By far the majority of comments and messages I received were good, if there was criticism it was usually valid and constructive. It is just that the tone has change over the past few months and I'm not comfortable with the threats and gender based insults. For example, I don't find it acceptable to be called an "arrogant c**t" , among other things, because this particular fellow disagreed with how many barrels I used. Most used the comments section toon on my website and appear to have used fake IDs. At first I tracked the originating link backs and traffic, but it just isn't worth my time. A couple were reported to their ISPs for threatening behaviour. These folks don't appear to be brave, but do seem very disturbed and that is an element I do not want in my life. Anyway, by far the vast majority of people on the forum are good people with a common interest who communicate with respect. I know I learned a ton here over the years and recommend this site constantly to others, No need to apologise, you aren't responsible for their bad behaviour and I certainly don't view the forum in a negative way because of these disturbed individuals. 😊
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Shelbeeray
has rocks in the head
Member since January 2006
Posts: 688
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Post by Shelbeeray on Jan 22, 2018 13:18:24 GMT -5
Some people . . . are impossible to understand. Gawd, you are so right! LOL Most folks are good though. 😊
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Wooferhound
Cave Dweller
Lortone QT66 and 3A
Member since December 2016
Posts: 1,423
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Post by Wooferhound on Jan 22, 2018 13:44:05 GMT -5
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 22, 2018 14:40:14 GMT -5
That really sucks that people are so selfish and mean that they would take the time to insult you for giving the rock tumbling community a free gift. I don’t blame you at all for removing it.
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