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Post by Original Admin on Oct 17, 2010 13:07:17 GMT -5
All,
Ive been toing and froing about a RTH Championship Competition. Ive talked briefly about it with Sands already but havent ironed out any details.
Its a competition for the RTH Champion of the Year. I got the idea from the world champion competition but thought (unashamedly I admit) that such a comp here may be good so I am gauging interest as it were.
Outline would be as follows.......
10 or 20 $ entry fee paid to sands up front (paypal) 3 judges from the board - need nominating. All members over 50 posts welcome 80% top prize 10% runner up 1 10% runner up 2 (I guarantee it will be close) Me and sands cant judge or enter Certificates for 3 winners (Ill produce and mail them)
If its started this year it would be the 2010 champion - hopefully if it goes well / is popular then we would start say Aug/Sept for 2011 - it would be great anually. Winner this year cant enter but it would be nice if they were a judge next year type of rollover.
Can everyone interested pass the word and show interest here in this thread so I know whether or not its worth setting up?
Cheers Mark
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turnedstone
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Post by turnedstone on Oct 17, 2010 14:20:35 GMT -5
I see RTH WORLD TUMBLING CHAMPION SHIP as a great idea. It would be great if we could have a RTH get together for the judge off lol. Would it be for one kind of rock this means finding the source for enough rocks to tumble another good reason for a RTH get together dig the rock at RTH tumbling bash lol and go from there. I think I can get enough rose quartz from South Dakota to jump start the first tumbles. Can you tell I am excited lol. George
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 17, 2010 14:28:22 GMT -5
Sounds like a great idea. But don't forget the cabbers and specimen collectors on here. Maybe their should be several categories. Don
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Post by Original Admin on Oct 17, 2010 14:34:37 GMT -5
Ive been thinking about the one kind of rock - in some ways that makes the comp fairer? I dont know - the more I think the more I go out of my head. I was thinking that maybe some veterans would take the challenge and do some Apache Tears whilst the beginners could do some easier stuff like Amythyst or Rose Q - I think at the end of the day the "entrant" should choose his/her poison and take their chances!!!! Im not even sure what constitutes a WINNING TUMBLE - that - I am thankful - would be down to the nominated judges
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Post by Original Admin on Oct 17, 2010 14:37:50 GMT -5
Cabbers aswell - could we judge cabs against tumbles? probably not really. Needs some thought - could there be enough cabbers for a good prize fund? I wouldnt want to split a larger tumbling prize fund with a less funded cab comp - but then again that would assume that the cab fund was smaller - things may not turn out that way - I dont know - its all in the air at the moment. Separate categories funded by entrants in that category would (I think) be the way to go.
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Post by rockrookie on Oct 17, 2010 15:09:18 GMT -5
Sounds like a great idea . i'm willing to try . my 2 cents ! start out simple . tumbling . who knows , in the future , you could have tri-rock-alon. tumbling , cabbing , wrapping etc . their are some very multi- talented members . --paul
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turnedstone
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Post by turnedstone on Oct 17, 2010 15:21:28 GMT -5
As prizes I would think more along the lines of rocks and rock toys that way we keep uncle sam out of it. George
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Post by joemojave on Oct 19, 2010 15:13:20 GMT -5
I will donate a big chunk of rose quartz as a prize, and I also could provide rose quartz rough for the contestants for free or cheap depending on how much is required.
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Post by krazydiamond on Oct 19, 2010 17:04:11 GMT -5
i'm in, Mark. tell me what you need.
KD
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Post by cpdad on Oct 19, 2010 19:13:42 GMT -5
im in also mark...no matter what is chosen to tumble.
i do have a few thougts though....for the first competition...keep it to one stone for all....whether apache tears or rose quartz for all.....apache tears are great....they wont reguire 6 weeks in rough....rose quartz is great....takes a great polish.....but may take 6 weeks in rough stage....if no pre grinding is allowed.
if pre grinding is allowed.....time can be cut back to allow a time frame kinda close for something as rose quartz to apache tears....just thinking about a time frame.
if this happens...one stone first year.....then branch out after a feel for what went down this year....just thinking out loud here ;D.....kev.
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Post by joemojave on Oct 19, 2010 19:41:48 GMT -5
Personally, I think that rough grinding adds a lot of skill to the art of tumbling. I would maybe say trim saw only cause most people have one and it limits the amount of sculpting you can do. Also, you can buy industrial diamond for 10 cents a carat in 60/90 grit, 100 carats being about right for a 6lb barrel, that will rough in several loads of hard rock in a few days each. Still a lot more expensive than SiC but works great.
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Post by Bejewelme on Oct 20, 2010 7:12:46 GMT -5
I don't tumble, but if it is a tumble competition I think everyone should tumble the same material. Perhaps we do a tumbling comp now, and then in 6 months or so a cab competition, allowing more people to participate?
Amber
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Post by joemojave on Oct 20, 2010 11:00:16 GMT -5
I like the idea of a competition every 6 months better, but it really comes down to how often the organizers feel like doing it, unless the organizers change each time.
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Post by adrian65 on Oct 20, 2010 13:00:59 GMT -5
I'd like a cabbing competition.
Adrian
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Post by gr on Oct 21, 2010 11:09:42 GMT -5
First comp. keep it simple, more would be able to join in. I agree with Amber! Set it up for spring 2011 as many are shutting down for the colder months. and this would give more time to orginize the rules and guidlines, and come up with the material source. I'm in! sounds great. Great idea Mark!
Gary
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Post by Original Admin on Oct 23, 2010 5:31:33 GMT -5
Keep on posting folks -
I think sofar preference is for a prize of rocks so free entry instead of a donation entry. (BTW if cash prize - this board doesnt take a cut so you are aware its 100% to the comp less paypal fees or whatever)
I think a fixed rock type would be VERY hard to judge. Imagine the photos. Pic after pic of the same. Very tricky and doesnt allow for artistic impression when it comes to choice? Can people have a think - im am easily swayable!!!
Hmm - rules and guidelines - I hate rules - but I agree I need to draw some up.
Maybe (Tumbling Comp) Pre Shaped category and a Natural Category (Cabbing) - As is - one category?
I will do a banner next week for this and stick it on top of the board.
Pls keep ideas coming.
Need to nominate judges aswell.
Lots to do. Mark
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Post by tomcloss on Oct 26, 2010 17:56:20 GMT -5
I'm in but it may be tough to judge base on pictures. Just a thought.
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Post by cpdad on Oct 27, 2010 17:18:02 GMT -5
mark...makes me no difference what rules we end up with...but here i go thinking again ;D
if we can pick our own rocks.
would a person tumbling apache tears or rough obsidian...and nailed the shine....would that person receive higher marks than someone nailing a shine on a common agate?.....apache and obsidian is a much tougher tumble....kev
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Post by turnedstone on Oct 29, 2010 4:56:22 GMT -5
CP you hit it square there has to be the same material may not want to do something that has just mostly one color as that would be boring. George
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Post by susand24224 on Oct 30, 2010 11:12:42 GMT -5
I love the idea and likely will participate, but some thoughts:
1. If the entries are by photograph, you will be judging photographic capabilities as much as tumbling capabilities.
2. I think it needs to be one type of rock, and something a bit difficult, at least if it is not a "beginner's" competition. The skill level to produce good tumbles varies greatly from stone to stone. If something easy is tumbled, there will be a large number of "close to perfects" judging from the skill level of this board.
3. Uncle Sam can take a cut of a noncash prize as much as a cash prize if Uncle Sam chooses to. (which I don't think will happen).
4. I would vote for no outside equipment at all since a lot of people don't have trim saws and part of the skill is breaking rough with as few fractures as possible.
5. Please allow twice as much time as you think necessary. First, some people have vibes, some don't. This levels the playing field somewhat. Second, everything that can go wrong will!
Susan
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