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Post by texaswoodie on Feb 7, 2013 10:15:47 GMT -5
Hey Rich, I guess your good with the recent ruling by a lower court on Obama's National Labor Relations Board recess appointments?
Curt
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Post by helens on Feb 7, 2013 10:57:07 GMT -5
two weeks in the rock shop cutting rocks and drinking beer...YOU DA MAN. ;D Helen i'm a sucker for a bad bet any day....you pick which way it will go....i will take the other....you win...i will break out the cabbing machine and make you a cab of my choice as close to your fav color as i can. ;D i win...you make my wife a glass thingy of your choice...wanna bet ;D...kev. You're on, Kev:). I bet that whatever happens on Feb 15, the outcome will be unfavorable to Orly Taitz:).
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Post by parfive on Feb 7, 2013 11:59:34 GMT -5
recess appointments = failed senate
failed senate just another function of the FUBAR ____hole you weep for
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Post by texaswoodie on Feb 7, 2013 13:11:03 GMT -5
Ummmm, here I thought the Senate was Dem ruled. And you didn't answer the question.
Curt
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Post by parfive on Feb 7, 2013 14:10:16 GMT -5
Am I good with the recent ruling?
Not even ambivalent, Curt. Couldn’t care less. ____hole Rules, bro. ;D
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Post by texaswoodie on Feb 7, 2013 14:52:36 GMT -5
Glad to hear that Rich. Let's tell the suckers to hit the road and null and void everything they have done.
Oh, I forgot one problem. Obama has decided to ignore the ruling. If I ignored a Federal Court ruling, I would never see the light of day again. Our illustrious leader can apparently ignore the law when things don't go his way. Must be nice.
Curt
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Post by parfive on Feb 8, 2013 1:10:30 GMT -5
If you run outta squirrels to chase today . . .
Obama Halts Drilling on Gulf Wells ;D
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Post by texaswoodie on Feb 8, 2013 7:29:20 GMT -5
Just remember that sooner or later there will be another Rep President. I don't want to hear it when he starts pulling the same crap. Obama sets a dangerous precedent for future presidents.
Curt
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Post by helens on Feb 8, 2013 14:14:31 GMT -5
news.msn.com/rumors/rumor-obama-has-gone-crazy-with-executive-orders-and-is-behaving-like-a-kingThis rumor was submitted by a MSN News reader.
UNCONFIRMED: President Barack Obama has gone crazy with executive orders throughout his administration, behaving like a “king” and avoiding Congressional oversight.
In fact, New York Magazine reports that the President has issued fewer executive orders than any President in over 100 years. With Obama proposing up to 19 executive orders to control gun violence, conservatives have started accusing him of being everything from a "king" to a "monarch" to a "dictator"
The accusations
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul accused Obama of being a king in an interview with CBN News. ""I think having a monarch is what we fought the American Revolution over and someone who wants to bypass the Constitution, bypass Congress -- that's someone who wants to act like a king or a monarch."
Rep. Jeff Duncan of South Carolina warned that the use of executive powers to combat gun violence sounded like "dictatorship" to him. "We live in a republic, not a dictatorship," Duncan said.
Former Republican Arkansas Gov, Mike Huckabee blasted the White House for its gun control efforts by responding to an email query from Newsmax: “Does this administration have nothing but contempt for the Constitution and the Congress?”
But the New York Magazine report says that Obama has issued less executive orders per day in office than conservative presidents like George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, and Calvin Coolidge. From PoliticsUSA: www.politicususa.com/republicans-call-dictator-obama-issued-fewest-executive-orders-100-years.htmlAfter his gun control announcement, Republicans immediately called President Obama a dictator and an imperial president, but the truth is that the president has issued the fewest executive orders of any president over the last 100 years.
Republicans immediately and predictably went off the rails as soon as the president mentioned executive action and guns. Rep. Paul Broun said, “There is a tremendous potential for a horrendous public backlash against the president if he continues the policies that he has been doing of trying to go around Congress, create law and be a dictator like he’s been doing.”
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) accused the president of abusing his power, “Making matters worse is that President Obama is again abusing his power by imposing his policies via executive fiat instead of allowing them to be debated in Congress. President Obama’s frustration with our republic and the way it works doesn’t give him license to ignore the Constitution.”
Rep. Darrell Issa said, “The president’s imperial behavior and his abuse of power didn’t begin with the Second Amendment. He did it with immigration. He’s certainly done it with the Obamacare. So, once again, it’s a president exceeding his intended authority.”
A funny thing happened on the way to Obama is dictator who is taking away all of guns Republican Memeville. New York Magazine crunched the numbers of presidential executive orders and concluded that this president has issued the fewest executive orders of any president over the last 100 years. Every Republican president signed more executive orders than Barack Obama has. On an order per day basis, Obama has issued fewer EOs than every single Republican president over the past century.
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Post by helens on Feb 8, 2013 14:16:57 GMT -5
From Forbes Magazine... the 23 Executive Orders Obama signed related to Guns: www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/All of them: President Obama has signed 23 executive orders designed to address the problem of gun violence in America. The following are the items addressed:
Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions: 1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make itwidely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effectiveuse of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to developinnovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
It does not appear that any of the executive orders would have any impact on the guns people currently own-or would like to purchase- and that all proposals regarding limiting the availability of assault weapons or large ammunition magazines will be proposed for Congressional action. As such, any potential effort to create a constitutional crisis—or the leveling of charges that the White House has overstepped its executive authority—would hold no validity. Go figure?
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Post by parfive on Feb 8, 2013 15:33:42 GMT -5
David Attenborough’s been scouring the planet for almost ninety years and he still hasn’t found a friggin’ primate dumber than the ones glued to fauxnews.
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Post by texaswoodie on Feb 8, 2013 16:07:23 GMT -5
That's only because he hasn't checked out the MSNBCer's.
Curt
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Post by susand24224 on Feb 8, 2013 16:41:51 GMT -5
Although I suspect many on this thread won't care to investigate the realities of the Supreme Court's "decision," perhaps a few will. The Supreme Court has not "decided to hear" this case. It has been referred to conference. Most petitions are. There are exceptions, which are based upon nature of the case, not on merits.
The fact that the proponent of this lawsuit is a lawyer and nevertheless represented a conference referral as a "victory" merely speaks to her honesty. That, and the realization that she could con many members of the public--which obviously is correct.
I know nothing of the merits of this suit, having not read it. But I certainly have formed an opinion of the lawyer celebrating her "victory." BTW, the procedures of the Supreme Court are set forth on their website and literally thousands are referred to conference during each term. Being among the thousands of lawyers whose petition was referred to conference and not heard, I am painfully aware of the truth of what I am saying.
Those who wish to squawk further on bad facts, go for it! If anyone *genuinely* would like more information, feel free to pm me.
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Post by garock on Feb 8, 2013 17:11:10 GMT -5
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Post by cpdad on Feb 8, 2013 17:27:05 GMT -5
ok. helen we are on...i kinda think i need to go find my cabbing machine huh ;D...p.m. me your fav color ;D...kev.
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Post by parfive on Feb 8, 2013 17:31:02 GMT -5
"The fact that the proponent of this lawsuit is a lawyer and nevertheless represented a conference referral as a "victory" merely speaks to her honesty. That, and the realization that she could con many members of the public--which obviously is correct." David, again: "Yes. And now we’ve left the jungle and descended where the sea slugs call home." [/i]
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Post by texaswoodie on Feb 8, 2013 18:20:12 GMT -5
Well hey, you can't hang a man for trying. If there is any glimmer of hope that we will be rid of the worst president in..................ummm.........ever, I'm gonna get excited about it. 'Scuse the Hell outta me.
Curt
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Post by jakesrocks on Feb 8, 2013 18:28:09 GMT -5
<Quote Rich> "Yes. And now we’ve left the jungle and descended where the sea slugs call home."
Seems to me that the sea slug is perched on top of the whale shit the Obama true believers have crawled out from under.
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Post by mohs on Feb 8, 2013 18:39:43 GMT -5
well shit ! were in deep doo doo now mostly
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Post by helens on Feb 8, 2013 21:10:00 GMT -5
Thanks Susan:P. Wasn't going to 'out' the attorneys on the forum, but was hoping one of you guys would pipe in on this:P. hehe.
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