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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 20:34:57 GMT -5
Anole Similar. Can be same color. But have eyelids and a dewlap under chin.
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Post by panamark on Mar 11, 2017 21:39:17 GMT -5
Gosh Rob Jugglerguy, those pictures are from like a billion years ago . You should post those pictures on your kids' facebook wall. They would love you for it. JK Isn't it great to see how utterly cool your kids were, and proud of where they are now. Haven't heard much about Bryan's rock or unicycle exploits lately. I once publicly shared a picture of my daughter when she was young, and it ....wasn't well received by her, ha ha.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Mar 11, 2017 22:06:01 GMT -5
Gosh Rob Jugglerguy, those pictures are from like a billion years ago . You should post those pictures on your kids' facebook wall. They would love you for it. JK Isn't it great to see how utterly cool your kids were, and proud of where they are not. Haven't heard much about Bryan's rock or unicycle exploits lately. I once publicly shared a picture of my daughter when she was young, and it ....wasn't well received by her, ha ha. Bryan has sort of outgrown both. There is a unicycle club at the college he will be attending and he plans to bring it, so maybe he will get interested again.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 12, 2017 4:45:16 GMT -5
In Florida the anoles reproduce like rabbits. The most prolific reptile on earth, has to be. A food source for birds and snakes. No small bug is safe around the anole. Little stud muffins are always posturing for females. Larger males running off younger males. Serious full time love drama. When the males get about 7 inches long they are vicious and cannibalistic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 12:18:41 GMT -5
In Florida the anoles reproduce like rabbits. The most prolific reptile on earth, has to be. A food source for birds and snakes. No small bug is safe around the anole. Little stud muffins are always posturing for females. Larger males running off younger males. Serious full time love drama. When the males get about 7 inches long they are vicious and cannibalistic. Interestingly enough, the girls lay one egg every seven days (alternative ovaries each week) and do so as long as the food is plentiful. Are you seeing green ones or brown ones in your Florida camp?
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Post by jamesp on Mar 12, 2017 12:46:10 GMT -5
I thought they were one in the same @shotgunner. They can't change colors ? Trick question ?
The Florida Broached skink scarf's those anoles up like potato chips. That skink is one feisty critter.
The coolest thing happening here in Atlanta. My bamboo made habitat for the massive colonies of Allegheny ants. The Fence lizard population has soared in the past 10 years. They just lay there where the ants march in lines and chow down. Like one ant every 10 seconds, continually. Need to video.
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Post by nowyo on Mar 12, 2017 23:42:14 GMT -5
Don't really mind those critters being around, but learned a couple of years ago that I can't hear them anymore. Stood there watching a little prairie rattler four feet away wagging his tail and didn't hear a thing, my wife heard him fine.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 12:14:39 GMT -5
I thought they were one in the same @shotgunner. They can't change colors ? Trick question ? The Florida Broached skink scarf's those anoles up like potato chips. That skink is one feisty critter. The coolest thing happening here in Atlanta. My bamboo made habitat for the massive colonies of Allegheny ants. The Fence lizard population has soared in the past 10 years. They just lay there where the ants march in lines and chow down. Like one ant every 10 seconds, continually. Need to video. No tricks. Green anole can be brown and is native. Brown anole is introduced and never green and has out competed the green in many areas. Your camp may be a bastion for natives, so I asked.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 13, 2017 14:52:36 GMT -5
I thought they were one in the same @shotgunner. They can't change colors ? Trick question ? The Florida Broached skink scarf's those anoles up like potato chips. That skink is one feisty critter. The coolest thing happening here in Atlanta. My bamboo made habitat for the massive colonies of Allegheny ants. The Fence lizard population has soared in the past 10 years. They just lay there where the ants march in lines and chow down. Like one ant every 10 seconds, continually. Need to video. No tricks. Green anole can be brown and is native. Brown anole is introduced and never green and has out competed the green in many areas. Your camp may be a bastion for natives, so I asked. Learned something new. They do change from brown and green and reverse. You are aware ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 14:56:41 GMT -5
No tricks. Green anole can be brown and is native. Brown anole is introduced and never green and has out competed the green in many areas. Your camp may be a bastion for natives, so I asked. Learned something new. They do change from brown and green and reverse. You are aware ? Yes. Perhaps I wasn't clear that Florida has 2 dominant species. The original green and the introduced brown. And in Miami dozens more. I'm just curious what you have in your camp. Native or introduce. Pics below Only the green ones change color. The brown ones do not.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 13, 2017 15:53:55 GMT -5
Thanks for that clarification @shotgunner Hobo's Dad Jeannie's BF etc.
At the Orlando latitude I have not seen the intro brown version. Noting the orange throat and speckled pattern on the brown one. Definitely the native with the red/pink throat. The native has a very high IQ, yet smarter than that talking Gecko on the insurance commercials ha. The native one can do a lot of push ups when posturing. Must have strong shoulders.
I can catch a native one and walk out into the little one acre field and set him on the ground. Almost everytime a hawk will swoop and catch him before I have walked 20 feet away. Dog eat dog world down there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 15:56:29 GMT -5
Anolicide
Daytona has Browns. Lol
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Post by jamesp on Mar 14, 2017 3:43:55 GMT -5
Anolicide Daytona has Browns. Lol Daytona has about anything you want. Anolicide. They serve as fodder for sure. My neighbor's cat scarfs them up to.
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 14, 2017 9:30:52 GMT -5
Here I Texas we have both anoles plus tons of introduced Turkish Geckos ( all over the house exterior walls in summer at night). Oddly, I see anoles all over towns but not in the country. I'm thinking it must be because the foliage in town is watered more often. Possibly roadrunners out here in the boonies too. They hunt the yard for lizards and snakes all the time......Mel
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 10:02:27 GMT -5
Here I Texas we have both anoles plus tons of introduced Turkish Geckos ( all over the house exterior walls in summer at night). Oddly, I see anoles all over towns but not in the country. I'm thinking it must be because the foliage in town is watered more often. Possibly roadrunners out here in the boonies too. They hunt the yard for lizards and snakes all the time......Mel You guys have anoles in central Texas? Would a never guessed. Yes roadrunners and cooachwhips probably keep them thin in a native setting. I love moorish geckos! Pics or it didn't happen! ETA A bit of Google herping teaches me.that we have brown anoles in Cali too. Desert and coastal areas. Most likely in irrigated gardens.
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Post by Mark K on Mar 15, 2017 12:09:31 GMT -5
I wonder if snakes can actually get pissed off. Sure they act angry when cornered, but I suspect that is just an instinctual behavior.
Case in point. Yesterday I tossed two mice in the cage. The big one got one right away and the smaller one missed once, educating the other mouse. As it was lining up to take the mouse, the big one snuck in and grabbed the mouse out from under the small snake's nose. I would have sworn that I saw the smaller snake glare at the big one.
I know that the small one has an attitude. If she is hungry and you walk up to look at them and she is sleeping in the water dish(which is common)She will unbury her head, look at you to see if you have mice, and if you don't, she will look at you for a few seconds and then turn her head away from you and then bury her head back in her coils.
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 15, 2017 17:14:49 GMT -5
Scott, Yep anoles are super common in town. Sit in one of my favorite Mexican food places and watch them doing pushups on the window sill. Nature center where the wife volunteers is right on the Guadalupe and has a ton of them. Never seen one here on the ranch. Most common lizards here are the geckos, ground skinks, Texas Spiny Lizards, whiptails and a few fence lizards. Love the big horned lizards in west Texas but have yet to see one here which is a big disappointment. Think fire ants have had a huge effect on herps here in the Hill Country....Mel
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 16:01:27 GMT -5
Mel,
Professional field research has illustrated that fire ants means no horned lizards nor box turtles​. Fuggers.
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 17, 2017 8:22:09 GMT -5
Yep, in eight years here I've not seen a singe box turtle even dead on road. Forty years ago used to see them all the time crossing the road between Fredericksburg and San Saba. I rescue water turtles all the time that are covered in fire ants while they are trying to lay eggs. Last one was a fourteen inch soft shell that was nesting in the sand at the edge of the horse ring. Ants had just found it and were giving it a devil of a time. Miserable beasties them ants.
We had an active Three Toed Box Turtle colony and tortoises in our Ojai back yard for about 30 years. Killed me giving up the tortoises for adoption. Got one of them when I was eleven years old. Not a lot of box turtle babies made it digging out of nests in the hard dirt but found a couple every year. Gave them all away because we knew they would not make in here in the Hill Country due to the dang ants..Mel
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 17, 2017 9:29:28 GMT -5
Photos taken yesterday at Mountain Palm Spring yesterday in Anza Borrego Desert.
Zebra-tailed lizard. Fast lizards! This about the only one I saw, or was close enough to take a pic.
Thatzzit.
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