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Post by 1dave on Jan 25, 2014 14:06:52 GMT -5
We were always moving huge things on the job, seldom with much in the way of tools. Pry a corner of 2-ton switch gear up enough to shove a pipe under it, roll it a few feet, stick another pipe under it, kick the pipe on a 45 to go around corners, always moving the last pipe (had to find at least three pieces) to the front. If it tips over someone is going to die. In my limited space shop things have to move! So when I built my router table, self locking castors went under it. Not the best solution. I managed to put castors on my table saw. It worked . . . barely. Then Norm Abrams showed how to lift those wheels when not needed! Zowie! At Home Depot I saw the Rigid Table Saw with "Herc-U-Lift!Dazzled, I had to buy it. It worked so sweet I ordered Just the lift Plate from Home Depot for $18.00 and used a 3"-U bolt and scrap steel square tube to convert my band saw. I think you can see how the fulcrums work so you can build your own.
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Post by 1dave on Jan 25, 2014 14:16:58 GMT -5
Getting those big rocks from the field to the saw is easy IF you use a hand cart and a ramp. Those used for loading ATV's make it easy. Most hand carts will handle 600-800 lbs. A Johnson Bar can lift 5,000 pounds! On the job we used trailer dollies for awkward stuff. It would handle that HUGE boulder!
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Post by 1dave on Jan 25, 2014 14:22:02 GMT -5
Sometimes you need overhead support. Unistrut might be your answer. You can make your own out of conduit and 1/4" fender washers.
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Post by europast on Jan 25, 2014 14:39:58 GMT -5
What a great router table! Space for everything. Wow! I have an old golf bag cart with a pair of 5 gallon buckets on the bag platform. Will carry a 100+ pounds of rock. Mostly use with single bucket hauling geodes along creek beds. Last year hauled buckets at Richardson's Ranch and messed up a knee (again). Steep hills and an old body are a bad combination.
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Post by 1dave on Jan 25, 2014 15:33:31 GMT -5
What a great router table! Space for everything. Wow! I have an old golf bag cart with a pair of 5 gallon buckets on the bag platform. Will carry a 100+ pounds of rock. Mostly use with single bucket hauling geodes along creek beds. Last year hauled buckets at Richardson's Ranch and messed up a knee (again). Steep hills and an old body are a bad combination. I'll have to start checking pawn shops for golf bag carts! I visited Richardson's ranch in 1962. Fabulous! Red Beds, Blue Beds, Pie Beds . . . close to Paradise!
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Post by bobby1 on Jan 26, 2014 10:19:03 GMT -5
AH, the memories of moving heavy equipment. I remember moving the chamber of a lyophilizer (freeze dryer) when we were upgrading a manufacturing facility. Johnson bars, low profile rotating wheel assemblies, rollers, etc. Gosh, I ready don't miss those working days....much. Bob
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Post by robsrockshop on Jan 31, 2014 21:50:44 GMT -5
I've moved a lot of heavy stuff with the 3 pipe method, namely commercial hvac units. I actually have a couple johnson bars in my shop right now. I've installed hundreds, if not thousands, feet of unistrut and have never used it as a trolley system. Most applications use unistrut for the multiple holes, not shown in your pic, and therefore you don't have to drill and can drop rods out of the sky in any location.
Funny story........unistrut is one of those items that sometimes you run out of and can't get by or wait without. I was out on a large job that they wanted done that day and when I was going down the stairs to tell the foreman I seen 2 plumbers walking upstairs each carrying a 20' stick. I said "heh wtf are you guys doing with my unistrut!!! You can put it right there and go get you're own!!!!!!!" Magically it worked and not till after the job was done did they realize I screwed them. Oh well......they would've done the same thing. Lord I don't miss that crap.
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Post by jollyrockhound on Jan 31, 2014 21:55:12 GMT -5
Nice ideas never heard of a johnson bar use hand truck from harbor freight with big wheels to move my stuff with a strap of course. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 1, 2014 13:12:56 GMT -5
Or the red neck fork lift......
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Post by nowyo on Feb 5, 2014 1:10:53 GMT -5
Short of the Jamesp redneck forklift, I've used all of that equipment. Moving big, awkward, heavy equipment just takes some thought and planning-and sometimes a little redneck engineering and imagination. When I was younger I'd just grab stuff and take off with it (once carried an engine block up a flight of stairs). Nowadays, long levers and hydraulics are my friend.
Russ
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 20:09:37 GMT -5
Or the red neck fork lift...... Is the handle high enough to practice your pullups?
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Post by jamesp on Feb 27, 2014 21:43:43 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jul 2, 2014 14:18:05 GMT -5
Resurrecting a thread from a few months back. Got some pics of machinery moving ventures I thought I'd share with you. Just a few of the machines we've brought in.
Borrowed my brother's car trailer to bring this Bridgeport mill home, then used pipes as rollers to get it into the garage. Don't have pics of that part of the job, but we had to loosen and turn the headstock to get it to clear the garage door.
This old A-frame has proved invaluable over the years (yellow thing behind the truck). That and a chain hoist.
Moved this Turnmaster lathe here, after purchasing it up in Poway. Rented a U-Haul trailer, the company we bought the lathe from from forklifted it into the trailer for us.
Our job was to get it out
Doesn't everybody have one of these in their yard?
Bob's new (used) toy in 2008.
In place.
Cidan shear, March 2009.
Same procedure. Except, we used the A-frame (has its own metal casters) to roll it around the side of the house into the back. We also did this with a 10 ton Chicago press brake. Didn't take any pics of that move, too busy working!
This is a Chevalier, Anilam CNC mill. Bought this from our employer at the time, had a tow company drag it onto the back of a truck, then set it on the driveway for us. November 2002.
We built this little dolly out of steel, and used HD metal bearings (from the surplus store!) as wheels. Scrapes in concrete from long metal bar used to turn the cart into position.
Had a little clearance issue with this one, too.
Rather than disassemble the machine, we were able to remove one cross brace from the garage door temporarily.
Just a little clearance on the left, the lathe is to the right of it.
In position in back corner of garage. We were going to lift it and pull the dolly out, but decided to just leave it on there. It can be pulled out away from the wall to facilitate clean up. The dolly is very stable.
All of these machines are 220V, three phase. We use a Baldor 5 HP motor as an idler motor, with a phase converter.
Are you drooling yet? Let me see what other photos I can come up with... Big boys toys, lol.
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Post by jakesrocks on Jul 2, 2014 15:26:53 GMT -5
Dang girl, can I move in with you guys ? All those neat toys to play with. Got my drool bucket in front of me to keep the drool off the keyboard.
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Post by Fossilman on Jul 2, 2014 15:51:45 GMT -5
HOLY MOLY and OMG!!!! Nice toys.....
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Post by DirtCleaner on Jul 2, 2014 16:54:15 GMT -5
Nice work. Would like to see this thread resurrected. Got this out of my truck with a winch and a come-along.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 2, 2014 17:06:50 GMT -5
Gznaznic! Now we know who has the REAL toys!
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Post by Good Earth on Jul 2, 2014 19:13:57 GMT -5
Working as a landscaper, I've had to move some big rocks into strange places. I purchased a nursery ball cart a few years ago, and I've been able to move some amazingly big rocks with it. It claims to have a 1200lb capacity, but the largest I've ever moved by myself was just under 1000lbs... Once the rock is on the cart, it's nothing to roll around....
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jul 2, 2014 21:10:36 GMT -5
Thanks, guys. Dave, what is gznaznic?
Tip of the iceberg, didn't even touch on the welding equipment yet!
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Post by jakesrocks on Jul 2, 2014 21:21:00 GMT -5
Thanks, guys. Dave, what is gznaznic? Tip of the iceberg, didn't even touch on the welding equipment yet! (freaked)OMG !! It just keeps getting better. Does your husband have a TIG welder ? I have a small wire feed welder, but would give my last 2 eye teeth for a TIG.
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