Mattatya
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Post by Mattatya on Mar 11, 2014 23:43:04 GMT -5
The picture above on the original post is end cuts I bought that was used for pen making. They sell large block but I only ordered two full size pen blocks and the rest end cuts.
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Post by Mattatya on Mar 11, 2014 23:46:46 GMT -5
I also have polymer baking clay that I was going to flatten and layer similar to paint layers, bake, and see what comes off it.
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Post by Mattatya on Mar 12, 2014 1:14:22 GMT -5
Did you make this Jason? Its really cool looking and love the pearl color swirls in it. Matt This was made with acrylic for knife handles or pen turning. It is tricky to get the small scratches out but it does polish up nice. Jason
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Post by Tonyterner on Mar 12, 2014 5:44:50 GMT -5
I've turned pens from that acrylic material. They make a special polish for it that makes it glow. Never tried bowlerite, its pretty expensive on ebay. I had hopes for you fordite experiment. Maybe try purposely baking it on a plate and then cut the plate up. Sort of like making a doublet.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 12, 2014 7:23:41 GMT -5
Awesome thread. Man made stuff is off the wall unique. Was looking at breccia the other day that was made up of smaller breccias. And even some of them had smaller breccias in them. Brecciated brecciated breccia...........
Have fooled around with new 'super portland mixes'. Recently available as 'made for jewelry use' mixes that make the precision mixing process simple.
The bond between Super Glue and 2 plates of glass is supposed to be one of he strongest bonds in existence. Would be interesting to bond thin layers of colored glass to make a lapidary thick slab and cut cabs out of it.
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Post by radio on Mar 12, 2014 8:23:26 GMT -5
Geez!!! Who knew Paleo Man was drinking Cokes and a discarded bottle cap was trapped when all the upheaval was going on with the Earth and the veins of this wonderful "natural" material was being formed! Thanks Shotgunner
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Post by washingtonrocks on Mar 12, 2014 11:40:55 GMT -5
I love your experimentation. I never really knew the history of Fordite until now, so thanks for the link!
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Post by radio on Mar 12, 2014 17:31:17 GMT -5
The bond between Super Glue and 2 plates of glass is supposed to be one of he strongest bonds in existence. Would be interesting to bond thin layers of colored glass to make a lapidary thick slab and cut cabs out of it. Even neater if one could heat it in a kiln just enough so it started to slump, then manipulate it a bit to get some wavy lines instead of straight ones
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Post by Mark K on Mar 12, 2014 18:14:18 GMT -5
Rockman69 is Brian Costigan, right?
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Post by jamesp on Mar 12, 2014 18:36:03 GMT -5
The bond between Super Glue and 2 plates of glass is supposed to be one of he strongest bonds in existence. Would be interesting to bond thin layers of colored glass to make a lapidary thick slab and cut cabs out of it. Even neater if one could heat it in a kiln just enough so it started to slump, then manipulate it a bit to get some wavy lines instead of straight ones You may be able to melt layers together radio. As they get plastic i would think they would bond.
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Post by Tony W on Mar 12, 2014 20:57:08 GMT -5
I have a theory that boat works will have overspray if they are old enough, and big enough, and small paint and body shops too in long time locations (Earl Shibe, etc.) , but I've never chased my ideas down The Fordite I have gotten has many hundreds of layers, so the source will have to be old, or very active T
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Post by snuffy on Mar 12, 2014 21:11:08 GMT -5
I have to get back with my cousin who paints large commercial trucks and trailers.They dump their excess in 55 gallon barrel.They have been doing it a long time.I have no idea what it looks like,or what condition its in.I talked to him about it in the past,I don't think about it again until I read a post about fordite.
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Post by Mark K on Mar 13, 2014 9:01:07 GMT -5
Snuffy, I suspect that the excess will be in thick layers that never really completely harden. More than likely the stuff would be like hard tar and the layers would range from too thick to work with to way too thick. Wouldn't it be sweet to find an old auto painting rack laying somewhere covered with the stuff?
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Post by snuffy on Mar 13, 2014 9:35:06 GMT -5
Snuffy, I suspect that the excess will be in thick layers that never really completely harden. More than likely the stuff would be like hard tar and the layers would range from too thick to work with to way too thick. Wouldn't it be sweet to find an old auto painting rack laying somewhere covered with the stuff? I figure that will most likely be the case snuffy
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Post by Tonyterner on Mar 13, 2014 15:18:53 GMT -5
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Post by SirRoxalot on Mar 15, 2014 11:48:16 GMT -5
For the person asking about cabbing fordite; I've only finished one so far but found it cut very nicely, no gumming. Wonderful stuff, wish I had more.
I think the rarity is overstated, considering how much of this "one of a kind" material is for sale, and how many square kilometers of auto and otherwise paint operations are out there.
A friend has a nice pile of the stuff from a Toronto area auto paint operation, they cleaned and threw away tons upon tons of the stuff.
I've long been interested in manufacturing some of it, but it doesn't look terribly practical outside of a busy paint shop.
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Post by Mattatya on Mar 18, 2014 16:32:33 GMT -5
@shotgunner. Great idea with using epoxy. I picked up some a while back at Tap Plastics and I believe they have products there now to color the epoxy including opaque. That could be an easy way to create a block of interesting swirls and color. I believe you can pour a fresh batch on to a previous cured batch to like grandma's famous Jello molds Tonyterner I never thought to look at eBay for Bowlerite. You would think it was cheap to buy rough because it's just broken up gutted bowling balls. I always see them at thrift stores for under $6. I was visiting my friends Pro audio and lighting store today. He installs club and venue sound systems and lighting. He also installs at bowling alleys. I thought he would get a kick out of setting a Bowlerite cab and pulled once up and explained what it was. He got such a kick out of it and thought it was a great idea to repurpose. He told me that the bowling alleys ate constantly getting cracked and damaged balls from customers thinking they can be fixed and he just tosses then out. He offered to asked the local bowling centers if they would hold then for me and I could come collect them. I have no need for that many whole broken up balls but would be willing to break then down into multiple color pieces and send them to anyone interested in RTH for just postage. If I get quite a bit of them I'll pack then up in SFRB and post on this thread and in the Buy Sell Swap section. jamesp never heard of Super Portland Mixes. I Google it for a day check and only saw instructions on how to mix concrete. Bonding cooled glass would be cool but would it be hard to get all the bubbles or. I thought about going to a glass fusion class and making a thick block Rio slab up. After talking to the artist putting on the class you have to use specific brands of glass and can't mix. Fusion glass is expensive. I asked my dad last year if he would be ok experimenting with his sedaline torch. Putting a bunch of stained glass I have laying around into a metal bucket with sand and hiring it with the torch for 30-40 mins and he was down for it (using every bit of safety precautions). Would be interesting if I could make a slag chunk out of it. I’ve got to many ideas and not enough time to experiment lol Love seeing all the pictures and posting about this topic. Thanks everyone, Matt
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Post by zarguy on Mar 20, 2014 2:23:02 GMT -5
rockman69 on eBay is Brian Costigan. I have no idea who rockmanken69 is. Lynn
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Mar 20, 2014 9:54:46 GMT -5
check this stuff out... it's Benite! same stuff other side named for the guy, Ben, I got it from, he was a cabinet maker for over 30 yrs. and this is a combo of sprays from his finishing cabinet. Working this stuff, similar to Fordite, is not as easy as stone because it is heat sensitive and, I believe, (I have not worked it yet) you will need a lot of water to keep it cool and a lighter touch when working with it. I'm waiting till I can get a cab machine to work this stuff.
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Mar 20, 2014 10:01:12 GMT -5
Actually the 'rough' seems to come from Gem center in Texas. Colbaugh seems to offer only beads and other junk. Colbaugh has rough also, it sells for $45/lb. for rainbow calsilica. www.colbaugh.net/ourproducts/rainbowcalsilica.htmlabout 1/2 way down the page.
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