jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jul 7, 2014 9:36:48 GMT -5
Great way to mount a pulley on a shaft and be able to remove it after rust attacks. Got 5 of them on my tumbler. Made life easy.
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stephent
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Post by stephent on Jul 7, 2014 10:09:16 GMT -5
Usually better then set-screws and/or keys. Way better "usually". Makes the centering of the pulley/belt a bit trickier by a slight amount, but not much. I just spray the "holding apparatus of any pulley" area well with penetrating goop after wire brushing well and a lick er two of emery cloth on the shaft and try to remove. But even taper-locks after 10-15 years sitting and rusting in the same place on a motor shaft....some will make ya say bad words....multiple times. And, almost universally, they were on a roof of a multiple story building. But I still like um better then keys/set-screws...by a country mile! And exposed to rock dust n goop they should work better for removal then set-screws. Good engineering jamesp.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 7, 2014 10:36:20 GMT -5
I asked Bruce Willis to explain this to me:
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Post by jamesp on Jul 7, 2014 12:17:50 GMT -5
Usually better then set-screws and/or keys. Way better "usually". Makes the centering of the pulley/belt a bit trickier by a slight amount, but not much. I just spray the "holding apparatus of any pulley" area well with penetrating goop after wire brushing well and a lick er two of emery cloth on the shaft and try to remove. But even taper-locks after 10-15 years sitting and rusting in the same place on a motor shaft....some will make ya say bad words....multiple times. And, almost universally, they were on a roof of a multiple story building. But I still like um better then keys/set-screws...by a country mile! And exposed to rock dust n goop they should work better for removal then set-screws. Good engineering jamesp. I don't know how small of a shaft they are made for stephant. maybe 3/4 or so.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 7, 2014 12:27:31 GMT -5
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Post by 1dave on Jul 8, 2014 2:54:16 GMT -5
And not a bad price. A tad small, most of my shafts are 1/2", 5/8ths, and 3/4".
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Post by 1nickthegreek on Jul 8, 2014 4:00:36 GMT -5
When I worked at the industrial supply place here in Idaho, I sold SO MANY of those for the potato equipment. wonderful bushings!!!!
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Post by johnjsgems on Jul 10, 2014 11:33:29 GMT -5
We used them on pretty much all our larger shafted equipment. As mentioned alignment is a learning experience. I don't know if they still make it but "anti-sieze" compounds worked really well when I worked in Long Beach where rust was an issue. We used it on fan hubs, boiler door gaskets, and just about anything we thought we would have to take apart again. It became illegal about that time for potable water fittings due to graphite content but I think you can still buy it from auto parts suppliers.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 10, 2014 12:40:49 GMT -5
We used them on pretty much all our larger shafted equipment. As mentioned alignment is a learning experience. I don't know if they still make it but "anti-sieze" compounds worked really well when I worked in Long Beach where rust was an issue. We used it on fan hubs, boiler door gaskets, and just about anything we thought we would have to take apart again. It became illegal about that time for potable water fittings due to graphite content but I think you can still buy it from auto parts suppliers. Loctite makes graphite based anti-seize for nuclear industry and a bunch of other applications.
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Post by johnjsgems on Jul 10, 2014 13:33:18 GMT -5
Cool. Great stuff.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 10, 2014 13:59:00 GMT -5
My home made tumbler has 1.5 inch shafts because that is what was laying around that could take a lot of weight over a 4 foot span. Then the shafts stick out a lot for additional pulley take-offs for another set of shafts. So the pulleys are doubled up and are thick taper locks. So i had to slide the spent pillar blocks a long way down the extended drive shafts. Tumbler out side in greenhouse, southern humidity etc. Anti-sieze saved me changing those two grit soaked(leaky barrel) pillar blocks. And the taper locks were no problem.
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Post by johnjsgems on Jul 10, 2014 14:24:11 GMT -5
I think after you install a couple the the taper locks are no problem. Easy to remove for sure.
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Post by quartz on Jul 10, 2014 23:21:00 GMT -5
Anti-seize, great stuff. I use it on every threaded object, even those I think I might someday take apart. Good on shafts too. All this talk about how great and easy to remove taper locks are, ya otta see what a sawmill can do to them I just a few months. Still the best option in most places.
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Post by connrock on Jul 11, 2014 10:26:50 GMT -5
Anti-sieze works GREAT for pesky neighbors too,,,,, I've lived her for 48 years and didn't know the exact location of my boundaries so I had the place surveyed 3 years ago.The surveyor drove it he typical wood stakes but I took the out all but 3 of them where there's a jog in my property in the far back,,, as the house and property was for sale,,, and drove in some 3/16" x 1" angle iron. I have a young,single mother who has been divorced a few times and who's head lives outside her body somewhere in outer space!She was bothered by the angle iron marker so she pulled it out and tossed it over on my lawn!I drove it back a tad deeper and asked her to leave it there.A "healthy discussion" ensued and I went back in the house before the discussion became "physical"! LOL Sure nough,,,next day there was the angle iron back o my lawn!I waited for her to leave for work and put several coats of anti-sieze on the angle iron and drove it WAY down int the ground so she would have to pull hard to get it out again!She got hoe at about her usual time at around 5:30 and I was waiting on my back deck to see what(if anything) happened.She got out of her car,,with her office help attire,,,and ran up to that stake like a rabbit to it's hole!She grabbed that stake with a choke hold,,,pulled and both hands slid right off of the stake like greased lightning! LOL The screaming ensued!!!I was amazed at how many rotten 4-6 letter names she called me in 1 sentence! LOL Now here she is with both hands covered with this nasty crap and has to go int her pocket book to get the house keys,open the back door and find a rag to wipe it all off!NOT a happy camper but,,,,it gets even better! LOL She comes back out later armed with vise grip pliers and work gloves! It's already too late to make this story short but after living here for 48 years, without any neighbor problems, I had to call the police. I was going to pull out that stake after the property behind me was sold but it's still in there,,,,,just as a reminder to her! I used anti-sieze in work all the time but it wasn't nearly as much fun as using in my back yard! LOL connrock
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Post by quartz on Jul 11, 2014 11:40:39 GMT -5
Great story, never heard of using the stuff as a deterrent. Seems that a blob that can be picked up on a toothpick will spread amazingly on fabric, or skin, and it doesn't readily come off.
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Post by nowyo on Jul 12, 2014 1:24:45 GMT -5
connrock-that is just too funny. I can see it now, since that stuff has a life of it's own and just goes everywhere. Another, less fun for anti-seize, is for gaskets. Get the copper-based stuff and put a real thin layer on the flange gaskets for your boiler lines, pumps, etc. Guys that work with these things know what I mean. In the future you'll be able disassemble them without tearing the gaskets all to heck and probably be able to reuse the gasket.
As to the taper-lock bushings in the OP-great stuff. Another thing that is cool is if you need to change your gear ratio you can just change the pulley without changing the hub. Would be a little pricey for the hobbyist to have all that stuff sitting around, but in an industrial setting it's great.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 18:29:02 GMT -5
Anti-sieze works GREAT for pesky neighbors too,,,,, I've lived her for 48 years and didn't know the exact location of my boundaries so I had the place surveyed 3 years ago.The surveyor drove it he typical wood stakes but I took the out all but 3 of them where there's a jog in my property in the far back,,, as the house and property was for sale,,, and drove in some 3/16" x 1" angle iron. I have a young,single mother who has been divorced a few times and who's head lives outside her body somewhere in outer space!She was bothered by the angle iron marker so she pulled it out and tossed it over on my lawn!I drove it back a tad deeper and asked her to leave it there.A "healthy discussion" ensued and I went back in the house before the discussion became "physical"! LOL Sure nough,,,next day there was the angle iron back o my lawn!I waited for her to leave for work and put several coats of anti-sieze on the angle iron and drove it WAY down int the ground so she would have to pull hard to get it out again!She got hoe at about her usual time at around 5:30 and I was waiting on my back deck to see what(if anything) happened.She got out of her car,,with her office help attire,,,and ran up to that stake like a rabbit to it's hole!She grabbed that stake with a choke hold,,,pulled and both hands slid right off of the stake like greased lightning! LOL The screaming ensued!!!I was amazed at how many rotten 4-6 letter names she called me in 1 sentence! LOL Now here she is with both hands covered with this nasty crap and has to go int her pocket book to get the house keys,open the back door and find a rag to wipe it all off!NOT a happy camper but,,,,it gets even better! LOL She comes back out later armed with vise grip pliers and work gloves! It's already too late to make this story short but after living here for 48 years, without any neighbor problems, I had to call the police. I was going to pull out that stake after the property behind me was sold but it's still in there,,,,,just as a reminder to her! I used anti-sieze in work all the time but it wasn't nearly as much fun as using in my back yard! LOL connrock It's a good thing the cut on the end of the iron was clean or she mighta filet'ed her hands! When god was handing out brains some folks heard trains, and those folks planning to travel by air; just did not get in line. That is why we call them airheads.
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Post by connrock on Jul 20, 2014 7:02:22 GMT -5
Shotgunner,,,, This woman is a REAL head case!Just prior to my "border incident" she had a "boob job" and was flaunting her newly acquired chest in front of the cop trying to sway him in her favor!When she found that the cop was not impressed she tried arguing with him to a point where she was screaming on the top of her new implanted lungs!The only reason the cop didn't cuff her and haul her off to jail was because her young son was there watching. connrock
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Post by jamesp on Jul 20, 2014 15:12:47 GMT -5
Shotgunner,,,, This woman is a REAL head case!Just prior to my "border incident" she had a "boob job" and was flaunting her newly acquired chest in front of the cop trying to sway him in her favor!When she found that the cop was not impressed she tried arguing with him to a point where she was screaming on the top of her new implanted lungs!The only reason the cop didn't cuff her and haul her off to jail was because her young son was there watching. connrock Having a problem neighbor seems a real curse. Too close for comfort. I sold my neighbor 9 acres of my land. I had used a machete to clear the line between us. Then he wanted three more acres. So the surveyer came out and surveyed it. Then he called a fencer to fence the whole thing while we were at work. We got back home and the fencer fenced the 9 acres where I had cut the original line. The surveyed set the pins by calculations instead of cutting line-of-sight. So the property line was deceptive. My neighbor just laughed and said he didn't care. That was 20 years ago. We continue to use the land for minimal activity. Never a problem. But listening to your situation is a bit of a nightmare. Hope to dodge such a situation.
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Post by johnjsgems on Jul 20, 2014 21:22:01 GMT -5
Use T posts next time and drive them deep. Unless you have the right jack they are in there for life (or until they rust away). I think another reason for the taper locks on larger pulleys is economic. If you can make all the pulleys to same center hole and sell taper locks to fit individual shafts it has to be cheaper. With all these techs here why hasn't anyone corrected the word pulley with sheaves?
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