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Post by jamesp on Aug 15, 2014 19:20:01 GMT -5
The palmettos start about middle of Georgia in some areas. Palm trees about southern border.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 16, 2014 8:56:52 GMT -5
We should have hit the river a little earlier in the morning so you guys could have seen the action. This is actually in the neighboring Okeefenokee Swamp in south Georgia that feeds the Suwannee River, another great coral river that I suggest. No wonder there is so much coral left in these rivers.
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Post by kap on Aug 16, 2014 9:29:44 GMT -5
Ann ask Tina if she wants to go collecting there!
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Post by Fossilman on Aug 16, 2014 9:51:07 GMT -5
It's not real fire agate Michael, just whiskey colored botryoidal chalcedony. No limonite for iridescent colors like fire agate. Still cool lookin'...Thumbs up
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Post by jamesp on Aug 16, 2014 10:03:12 GMT -5
Ann ask Tina if she wants to go collecting there! James does not want to collect there either.
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Post by munchie on Aug 16, 2014 13:39:00 GMT -5
I think I will stay in the boat in that part of the river
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Post by gingerkid on Aug 16, 2014 13:46:16 GMT -5
Heck naw, I wouldn't be anywhere near the swamp. jamesp, do you have any idea when this vid was filmed at the Okefenokee swamp? jamesp, have you ever encountered any sharks while searching for coral in brackish water?
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Post by jamesp on Aug 16, 2014 13:51:21 GMT -5
I think I will stay in the boat in that part of the river That is in the Okeefenokee Mark. I rarely see a gator over 3 feet in the rivers. Lack of privacy keeps the big ones out of the river and in the large swamp. However the river gators in Florida have swamps to hide in next to the rivers. They are smaller and muscular unlike lazy lake gators. A 10 foot river gator from the fast flowing Oklawaha River is the same trophy as a 12-13 foot gator from large lakes in the area. He is a formidable critter, agile and fast.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 16, 2014 14:02:37 GMT -5
Heck naw, I wouldn't be anywhere near the swamp. jamesp, do you have any idea when this vid was filmed at the Okefenokee swamp? jamesp, have you ever encountered any sharks while searching for coral in brackish water? Probably near Fargo Jan. Lots of high gator density there. My aunt/uncle lived in Waycross and Uncle Fred used to take me fishing in the Okeefenokee. Two rules, less than 10 HP motors, and no dogs in the boat. Dogs excite gators. actually the biggest danger was getting lost in that place. No sharks, but Bull sharks come up the Suwannee to about Old Town FL. not up far enough where I collect. I believe they did outlaw jet skis, to many people got injured by sturgeon that would jump when frightened by a jet ski and hit the operator. I have seen 6 footers all the way to Valdosta on the Withlacoochee. Never knew they were there till I saw one swimming up a shallow shoal, a very strange sight. And saw a small sturgeon last week.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 16:35:31 GMT -5
mmmmmmmmmmm..................
Smoked Sturgeon is yummy!!
FYI - shrimp = bait
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Post by jamesp on Aug 16, 2014 17:38:34 GMT -5
mmmmmmmmmmm.................. Smoked Sturgeon is yummy!! FYI - shrimp = bait Looks like they may have ban on fishing for the Gulf Sturgeon. "Little is known about the early life stages of the Gulf sturgeon throughout its range. After the late 1800s, Gulf sturgeon populations declined dramatically, a result of the high demand for their delicious meat and valuable roe, and dam construction, dredging activity and other man-made habitat alterations. The decline prompted state and federal officials to place the sturgeon on the protected species lists in the 1980s and 1990s and to enact a harvesting and possession ban. Today, the free-flowing, spring-fed Suwannee River supports the largest and most robust population of Gulf sturgeon in the state and the wider Gulf of Mexico region. Adults spawn on scoured limestone substrates in the upper reaches of this 200-mile long river. As they swim along, sturgeon occasionally leap out of the water. Every spring and summer, lucky boaters and campers along the Suwannee River witness this spectacle. Power boaters can reduce the risk of injury to themselves and the fish by boating slower during the appropriate time of year."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 18:54:24 GMT -5
ohhh...
Federally Threatened Species. They still taste good if ya must eat one to survive..... lol
Also the Coose River in Georgia has Lake Sturgeon. Also protected in Georgia.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 16, 2014 19:10:24 GMT -5
ohhh... Federally Threatened Species. They still taste good if ya must eat one to survive..... lol Also the Coose River in Georgia has Lake Sturgeon. Also protected in Georgia. Arrowheads everywhere on Oostanaula, Etowah, Coosawatee and Conasauga. About all out of jet black waxy flint. Lots of mounds and ancient fish weirs on those rivers. Never heard much about sturgeon in them. Some of those rivers are dammed and make good size reservoirs. Jean is a Coosa girl.
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Post by gingerkid on Aug 16, 2014 20:56:03 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 16, 2014 21:38:58 GMT -5
Jean is a Coosa girl. James, when I first got to Alabama, I lived about 45 miles northwest of Gadsden. Was actually closer to the Tennessee River and Wheeler Lake. I learned to waterski on the TN River. Last few months there I lived maybe five - ten miles west of Decatur. Totally different environment from what I was used to!
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Post by jamesp on Aug 16, 2014 22:07:18 GMT -5
Jean is a Coosa girl. James, when I first got to Alabama, I lived about 45 miles northwest of Gadsden. Was actually closer to the Tennessee River and Wheeler Lake. I learned to waterski on the TN River. Last few months there I lived maybe five - ten miles west of Decatur. Totally different environment from what I was used to! Elk River flows from the north into Wheeler. my favorite spear head lake when lowered in winter. To the left of the 'L' in Limestone, just NW of Jean's home town of Decatur. Bama girl.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 0:20:55 GMT -5
With zero local knowledge, it is hard for my feeble brain to gather the flow of this drainage. Does it drain west into the Mississippi?? RE: The Coosa - I see that it drains into the gulf, via Mobile Bay. Lots of interesting and rare turtle-aliens there. Mobile Redbelly Turtles only found there as well as some map turtle or another. baby big one These are Alabama Map Turtles. The image is deceiving as the wood plank MUST be approaching 24" wide. The head on these big females is 3"+ wide for eating the plentiful freshwater clams of the south. The males seem like a separate species at 4-5" in length do not compete with the females by eating different foods. This is an adult male of a similar species from the Pearl River of Mississippi.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 17, 2014 0:33:40 GMT -5
Scott, yes, once the Tennessee River is in AL, it flows to the northwest, joins the Ohio River near Paducah, KY, which then dumps into the Mississippi at Cairo, IL. A very long and twisting waterway, but it is navigable is entire length, 652 miles! I did see a lot of turtles when fishing and the like, but never got up close and personal with any of them.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 17, 2014 8:14:16 GMT -5
Here is drainages Scott. Even the top of east Georgia flows into the Tennessee and then the the Mississippi. From an artifact standpoint I have collected Tennessee, Coosa, Tallapoosa, Chattahoochee, Flint, Ocmulgee, Oconee, Savannah and Suwannee River drainage cultures. They about all have dammed reservoirs that have dry spells exposing artifacts from wave action. Artifacts drastically different from drainage to drainage in most cases. My buddy(a competitor in the plant biz) in Alabama collected turtles from most of those drainages; The Coosa being the gold mine of turtle varieties. He stopped collecting when a Federal sting put him in prison. They told him to stop collecting, he was fore warned. He was addicted to collecting turtles. The Flint river was probably his 2nd favorite for turtle varieties. The Flint is wacko, it starts at the Atlanta Airport and hits a low mountain area about 100 miles south. So it has the diverse Appalachia habitat and also a coastal gulf type habitat including the palmettos Jean asked about. so turtles are crisscrossed every which way. Then it flows for miles through glassy coastal plain chert supplying killer material for artifacts. Chunks of some cylindrical coral that are a big as sawmill logs. Atlanta became a hub because it was close to the head water of so many drainages. Georgia trees lean towards Jean's Alabama cause it sucks:).
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Post by jamesp on Aug 17, 2014 9:27:26 GMT -5
The Tennessee River is probably the most occupied by natives of all the rivers in the SE. Jean's Decatur a mecca for muscle divers. Lynyrd Skynyrd calls them swampers, from the area of the town of Muscle Shoals close to Jean's Decatur. Song written for Jean and her notorious reputation as a swamper. When the band was having a riff w/Neil Young. And Jean was responsible for watergate, influencing southern man w/the ways of Nixon. Poor child, times were crazy when you paid a visit to Alabama. You left your mark.
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