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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 14:01:26 GMT -5
Cost me $11!! I had to make a new label to get the box to client. Medium FRB for a recent client. Returned for insufficient postage. I thought perhaps I accidentally paid for small FRB. Nope. MFRB all the way. I dont understand. Unless because the flaps of the box didn;t perfectly mate - "it dint fit". I wonder if it made it all the way to the client's PO and then returned!
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kenefick
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Post by kenefick on Sept 30, 2014 14:33:04 GMT -5
I was almost on the other end of one of those. It was a MFRB shipped from Washington state. Tracking showed it was "Out for Delivery", but when the mail carrier came - no box. I called the PO, and after some delay, they said they found it, so I went into town to pick it up. When I got there, they had a problem finding it again. They finally brought it to the counter, and it was in sad condition, banged up and obviously re-taped over a tear on a corner. A rather surly clerk told me the reason they had trouble locating it was because it was in a bin to be returned for additional postage because "in its condition, it doesn't qualify for the flat rate". It had been accepted by the shippers PO, abused in transit, and they were going to ship it back across the country for more postage. They did "allow" me to pick it up (for no additional postage). I guess I missed the logic in there somewhere.
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Post by vegasjames on Sept 30, 2014 15:30:10 GMT -5
I wonder if they started adding a weight limit. They to this for flat rate overseas.
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 30, 2014 15:47:02 GMT -5
I wonder if they started adding a weight limit. They to this for flat rate overseas. 70 pounds is the limit on a Medium flat rate...
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Post by phoenix1647 on Sept 30, 2014 16:31:35 GMT -5
It is simply a matter of the receiving post office personnel. I would ask to speak to a supervisor about this. Flat rate should mean just that no matter how much they abuse the box. If it was accepted at the shipping post office, and the proper fees paid, then it should be delivered for that fee.
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Post by Sabre52 on Sept 30, 2014 16:31:46 GMT -5
So Scott, this is very worrisome. I'm filling some flat rate cartons right now. How bad was the fit? Was the box all bulged up? How far apart the flaps etc. I'm gonna be footing the bill for shipping these for the kiddies and don't want the boxes returned. Thinking I might have to fill the boxes pretty light which would really suck as I hate wasting postage. Was hoping I could fit at least 20 pounds per box...Mel
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Post by chassroc on Sept 30, 2014 16:37:54 GMT -5
That really sucks
Hope it is the exception, not a frequent rule
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 30, 2014 16:41:12 GMT -5
All flat rate boxes (small, both mediums, both larges) have a DOMESTIC weight limit of 70 lbs. Says so right on the Box. For INTERNATIONAL shipments, the small has a limit of 4 lbs, all others 20. Again, says so right on the box. I also checked the USPS website, same same.
I've not had any problems shipping on USPS.com, paying with a credit card, and printing the prepaid labels. Tracking does not cost extra, saves like $1.05 or something. What I don't get is that they tell you something will take 2 days, on the 3rd day it's delivered, and they say it is ontime. Huh? I guess they think differently from most other people.
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Post by panamark on Sept 30, 2014 18:06:34 GMT -5
Scott, I asked the postal clerk and they said "if it fits, it ships". When asked what "fits" means, he said as long as there are no big gaps you have to cover with tape, etc. you are good. A tiny gap like you show would definitely NOT be a problem. Must be something different - e.g. address was incorrect.
Anyway, that is a Bummer dude. Sorry. Let us know what you find out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 18:13:09 GMT -5
I wonder if they started adding a weight limit. They to this for flat rate overseas. It was going to Texas.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 18:19:11 GMT -5
So Scott, this is very worrisome. I'm filling some flat rate cartons right now. How bad was the fit? Was the box all bulged up? How far apart the flaps etc. I'm gonna be footing the bill for shipping these for the kiddies and don't want the boxes returned. Thinking I might have to fill the boxes pretty light which would really suck as I hate wasting postage. Was hoping I could fit at least 20 pounds per box...Mel Mel, it wasn't about weight. Nobody said "it's too heavy". It was 21# in a MFRB. If I had smalls to fill the gaps 25# would be about right. 35# fills a large. Nobody could be sure why it came back. But I am screwed no matter what. The flaps issue was only speculation by one party. The flaps were a half inch apart. I had double boxed it. One inside the other. When I do that the outer one doesn't make it across. When I re-did this box, I cut down the inner carton to allow the outer to close properly. Now it will go. I dropped it back off at the offending PO. They have been a problem because my labels say 91710 and they are 91709. They have to do the lifting but don't get the credit from headquarters. NOT MY PROBLEM. But they made this one mine. I have shipped a medium this way, 68# of silver coins shipped in a double MFRB carton. No problems on those.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 18:20:33 GMT -5
Scott, I asked the postal clerk and they said "if it fits, it ships". When asked what "fits" means, he said as long as there are no big gaps you have to cover with tape, etc. you are good. A tiny gap like you show would definitely NOT be a problem. Must be something different - e.g. address was incorrect. Anyway, that is a Bummer dude. Sorry. Let us know what you find out. Address is verified by Paypal! My gap is indeed over 1/2".
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Post by Pat on Sept 30, 2014 18:41:43 GMT -5
Some employees are rotten ; some are wonderful.
Sorry you got a lineup of the rotten.
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Post by stephent on Sept 30, 2014 21:03:15 GMT -5
Last MRFB I got thru USPS looked like the stepper motors had been "inspected" through a corner that doesn't normally open.. Rough handling.. thrown a bit I would think.. stomped a couple times. Shoddy re-tape job to repair it so it could continue on to me..but it did get here. Made it in good time from Oregon to Arkansas too. 3 days. I always use 3 overlapping seams of tape on the middle where the tabs meet.. 2 sidewayz across the whole mess.., (and cover the address with the clear tape too!) AND...take a picture of the wrapped and ready to go box/package before it hits the post office.. and keep the receipts. A pic is worth a 1000 words in an argument with Uncle Sam's finest. Normally I take a pic of the stuff going into the box too. Color me paranoid.
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Post by mohs on Sept 30, 2014 21:11:39 GMT -5
I had a lost wax problem...
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Post by catmandewe on Sept 30, 2014 22:25:03 GMT -5
I was told that using 2 boxes can void my flat rate pricing unless one of them was being reused. I shrink wrap all of my packages so I only need to use one box. I bet it was a workers interpretation of "if it fits" because of the half inch gap. I have had flat rate envelopes refused because the flap didn't come all the way to where it is supposed to be, also if you have to use "excessive tape" to keep the box together it can be refused.
The girls at my local PO are great to me so I can't complain but someone in the Twin Falls PO is a real stickler for details and occasionally sends stuff back, many times they will just stamp it "approved" and resend it.
Tony
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Post by vegasjames on Oct 1, 2014 0:21:43 GMT -5
I wonder if they started adding a weight limit. They to this for flat rate overseas. It was going to Texas. I was not implying you were shipping overseas. I was simply pointing out that there are weight limits overseas so I though there were also weight limits for domestic mail. As people pointed out this is the case, although you were still within this limits.
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 1, 2014 15:08:29 GMT -5
I got a bubble envelope slab the other day that was sealed with the self seal strip AND taped. They were BOTH opened. The package was fine. I had not been jammed in a machine. Someone deliberately opened the package. It wasn't that it went to the wrong house first because it was on time. Go figure.
Scott, it sounds like your box just happened into the hands of an overzealous butt nugget. Maybe he/she was new.
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Post by orrum on Oct 2, 2014 6:04:22 GMT -5
Go Twla.....butt nugget! LOL
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Post by vegasjames on Oct 2, 2014 7:18:12 GMT -5
Take it back to the Post Office and have them ship it again on their dime. I have had packages incorrectly returned before and I just took them to the Post Office proving that the address was correct to begin with and the Post Office re-shipped the package without a charge.
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