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Post by jamesp on Dec 17, 2014 13:04:00 GMT -5
I misread the Viking instructions. It suggests one tablespoon AO polishes per pound of rocks. I did one tablespoon per 7 pounds of rock. Ran 3 days on 1000 and 2 days on 14,000. On 4 loads of agates. Got perfect shine all 4 loads. Probably could have run 2 days on 1000 and 1 day on 14,000 for agates. But unakites needed 2 days of 14,000. A couple of rhyolites are running in this vibe run. After 3 days in 1000 and 1 day in 14,000 it has a decent polish like the unakite did after 1 day in 14,000. But the second day in 14,000 put the wet shine on the unakite. Hoping the second day in 14,000 will do the same to the rhyolite. Guessing it will. Rhyolite running with agate like the unakite did. 30% glass media in all runs. The sample rhyolites were put into the vibe straight out of AO 220 in the rotary. So the AO 1000 in the vibe removed the 220 scars. The 14 pound rotary tumbler full of rhyolite has been running in AO 500 for 4 days, it should finish easily in the vibe with 1000 and 14,000. The rhyolite seems to be a fast and friendly material to tumble. This is what the rhyolite looked like when out of AO 220 from the rotary(left stone):
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Post by broseph82 on Dec 17, 2014 13:13:55 GMT -5
Now each day did you add anything or just the initial load for 3 days?
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Post by jamesp on Dec 17, 2014 13:23:28 GMT -5
Now each day did you add anything or just the initial load for 3 days? No additions, grit or rocks or water. 14 pounds of rock, 2 tablespoons aluminum oxide, 200cc of water. That's it. Let er fly I did add a little water during the 14,000 final polish- on the last day, for the run w/unakite. Probably did not matter.
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Post by broseph82 on Dec 17, 2014 13:46:14 GMT -5
Now each day did you add anything or just the initial load for 3 days? No additions, grit or rocks or water. 14 pounds of rock, 2 tablespoons aluminum oxide, 200cc of water. That's it. Let er fly I did add a little water during the 14,000 final polish- on the last day, for the run w/unakite. Probably did not matter. Awesome! Now I just have to find someone with a Lot-O so I can experiment too.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 17, 2014 14:01:40 GMT -5
No additions, grit or rocks or water. 14 pounds of rock, 2 tablespoons aluminum oxide, 200cc of water. That's it. Let er fly I did add a little water during the 14,000 final polish- on the last day, for the run w/unakite. Probably did not matter. Awesome! Now I just have to find someone with a Lot-O so I can experiment too. Lot-O seems a fine machine.
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Post by iant on Dec 17, 2014 15:02:42 GMT -5
Hi Jim, I'm surprised the Viking suggests one tablespoon per lb of rocks. I understood vibes use much less grit/polish than rotaries. Are you sure the instructions don't read one teaspoon per lb? Anyway, you seem to be getting great results with a ratio closer to the teaspoon.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Dec 17, 2014 15:23:50 GMT -5
I agree with iant. The I only use 1/2 teaspoon for 3.5 pounds of rock in the loto which would translate out to about 2 tablespoons for 14 pounds. one tablespoon per pound was what I did in my rotary days so using that much in a vibe would not be saving any $$$ Chuck
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Post by jamesp on Dec 17, 2014 16:35:00 GMT -5
I agree with iant. The I only use 1/2 teaspoon for 3.5 pounds of rock in the loto which would translate out to about 2 tablespoons for 14 pounds. one tablespoon per pound was what I did in my rotary days so using that much in a vibe would not be saving any $$$ Chuck I have a copy of the instructions in image form that Chuck was kind enough to send me. I think 15 cc is about a tablespoon. Looks like 15cc per pound of rock for 320 and 600. I must be wrong about 15cc = 1 tablespoon. I sure like your measurements better. Odd that I accidentally came so close to Chuck's and Ian's by mistake. ha I would have flipped shoveling that much grit. Thanks for shedding light you two.
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Post by 150FromFundy on Dec 17, 2014 16:53:21 GMT -5
I run a UV-10 which is a vibe with a 10lb capacity bowl.
For 120/220 and 500F, I use 3 tbsp. of grit. For 1000F and polish, I use 1.5 tbsp. of pre-polish/polish.
If I followed your instructions and added 1 tbsp. per pound, that would be 10 tbsp. in the bowl. There has to be a "typo" in those instructions.
If you added 1 tbsp. of grit per pound of rock in a ROTARY tumbler, that would make sense.
Darryl.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 17, 2014 18:06:08 GMT -5
I run a UV-10 which is a vibe with a 10lb capacity bowl. For 120/220 and 500F, I use 3 tbsp. of grit. For 1000F and polish, I use 1.5 tbsp. of pre-polish/polish. If I followed your instructions and added 1 tbsp. per pound, that would be 10 tbsp. in the bowl. There has to be a "typo" in those instructions. If you added 1 tbsp. of grit per pound of rock in a ROTARY tumbler, that would make sense. Darryl. Must be a typo Darryl. A double one at that, a tablespoon or 15 cc. Thanks for reaffirmation.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 18, 2014 1:53:40 GMT -5
I have a copy of the instructions in image form that Chuck was kind enough to send me. I think 15 cc is about a tablespoon. You are correct, James. 15cc equals 1.014 tablespoons, according to online conversion.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 18, 2014 7:45:46 GMT -5
I have a copy of the instructions in image form that Chuck was kind enough to send me. I think 15 cc is about a tablespoon. You are correct, James. 15cc equals 1.014 tablespoons, according to online conversion. It is true Jean. Tea and table similar. 5cc and 15cc respectfully and they both end in 'spoon'. The 16 pound rotaries use a cup, 230cc, nice to use tablespoon quantities. 30cc vs 230cc, 1 to 7 ratio, 14# vibe to 16# rotary. Also, 2-3 days instead of 7-10 days.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 18, 2014 17:29:01 GMT -5
But how could they have mixed up teaspoon and tablespoon, when they are giving the measurement in CCs? Whatever, it does sound like a heap too much for a vibe.
It seems when I last used the Scott/Murray tumbler from Edmo, for the rough grind, it uses 1 lb of 80 grit, or 1 cup, for a full load. I think a full load is 15 lbs of rocks, but would have to check that. Will be tumbling some of the agate from Indian Pass soon, so need to look it up anyway.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 18, 2014 17:33:56 GMT -5
But how could they have mixed up teaspoon and tablespoon, when they are giving the measurement in CCs? Whatever, it does sound like a heap too much for a vibe. It seems when I last used the Scott/Murray tumbler from Edmo, for the rough grind, it uses 1 lb of 80 grit, or 1 cup, for a full load. I think a full load is 15 lbs of rocks, but would have to check that. Will be tumbling some of the agate from Indian Pass soon, so need to look it up anyway. I hear you. cc's and spoon size were wrong, guessing they meant teaspoons. I use a cup for 15 pounds, sounds right on for the rotary.
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