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Post by johnjsgems on Mar 31, 2015 14:01:18 GMT -5
I've been to La Brea. It is very interesting. Lots of saber tooth tiger, camel, horse, etc. No dinosaurs. I have not had time to "research" but as I recall they have not made dino bones for about 60 million years. La Brea is much more recent. Camels, horses etc. are not dinosaurs and have no dino bones. La Brea is interesting in that you see the actual bones, not mineral replacements. Preserved by the tar they were covered with that saturated the bone. I didn't realize Shark Tooth Hill was that old either (about 15 million). Still way too recent for Barney or the other dinosaurs.
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 31, 2015 22:30:12 GMT -5
I do seem to remember they occasionally find dino bone in California, maybe in the coast ranges, but since all California was underwater in the dino period, they are probably critters that washed into the ocean and were preserved or maybe marine species that died and fell into the bottom ooze. Now I'm curious so will have to look it up......Mel
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 1, 2015 9:48:37 GMT -5
Have to remember the land massed were closer together during the dino ages...........I'm sure many places the waters washed bones in from certain areas and they finally laid to rest.......
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Post by thehammer on Apr 15, 2015 14:02:27 GMT -5
OK folks, I collected Agate and Jasper from the Cady Mountains, Lavic Siding, and Tin Can Alley up in the Calico Mountains. The shark Teeth and bones came from the Bakersfield area out near Sharktooth Hill, but NOT on Sharktooth Hill. Nearly all of the land in that area is private property and NO collecting is allowed without permission, and most if not all will NOT give permission to rockhounds ruining it in the past for us rockhounds of today. BUT with diligent searching and a TON of luck, there are a couple spots that one can still look for amazing specimens. As for the outing that you can get with BVMNH, I highly recommend them. Firstly, you have professionals there to help you get the most for your money, AND you are helping support an amazing facility. Happy Hunting, The Hammer
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Post by inyo on Apr 17, 2015 9:47:54 GMT -5
OK folks, I collected Agate and Jasper from the Cady Mountains, Lavic Siding, and Tin Can Alley up in the Calico Mountains. The shark Teeth and bones came from the Bakersfield area out near Sharktooth Hill, but NOT on Sharktooth Hill. Nearly all of the land in that area is private property and NO collecting is allowed without permission, and most if not all will NOT give permission to rockhounds ruining it in the past for us rockhounds of today. BUT with diligent searching and a TON of luck, there are a couple spots that one can still look for amazing specimens. As for the outing that you can get with BVMNH, I highly recommend them. Firstly, you have professionals there to help you get the most for your money, AND you are helping support an amazing facility. Happy Hunting, The Hammer Nobody said that the marine mammal bones and shark teeth came from Sharktooth Hill, specifically.
Too, as stated in my linked cyber-field trip (in one of my previous posts in this thread), Sharktooth Hill, proper, since 1976 has been a Registered National Natural Landmark, federally protected from unauthorized collecting. As understood by paleontology enthusiasts, the phrase "Sharktooth Hill Bone Bed" refers to that incredibly widespread, narrow, productive fossiliferous horizon (usually one to four feet thick) in the middle Miocene Round Mountain Silt Member of the Temblor Formation that occurs not only at incomparable Sharktooth Hill, but also throughout the dusty hills in the neighborhood outside the world-famous Registered National Natural Landmark.
One must note, also, that in addition to the Buena Vista Museum of Natural History-sponsored digs there exists in the general area a heavily advertized commercial collecting operation near Sharktooth Hill--owned by the former landowner's son--where for a fee folks may collect all the common shark teeth (including prized "Megs") and scientifically redundant marine mammal bones they so desire; the particularly rare, scientifically invaluable teeth and bones must remain in possession of the landowners.
Here are a couple of shark teeth I collected from the middle Miocene Sharktooth Hill Bone Bed several years ago: Two Shark Teeth From The Middle Miocene Sharktooth Hill Bone Bed
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 17, 2015 15:17:27 GMT -5
Nice teeth!!
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 18, 2015 19:46:24 GMT -5
Hey Mike, the last 2 pics appear to be rib fragments. Sure glad my Shark Tooth Hill experiences were well before all of the restrictions were put in place. My best find from Shark Tooth Hill, back in the early 50's. Front fang from an Allodesmus. A distant relative of the modern sea lion. Another good find from there. A whale ear bone, with a shark tooth which was imbedded in the cemented sand matrix.
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 18, 2015 23:19:40 GMT -5
Awesome finds Don-thanks for the info my friend.................
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Post by stephan on May 31, 2015 9:46:28 GMT -5
Yep, I'm an old Cadys hunter. No dino bone or shark teeth there. Wrong age and volcanic rocks. There is some palm root. Bakersfield is fossil heaven. I used to go to Sharktooth Hill and sites the other side of the river all the time. Lots of fish and mammals besides the shark teeth too. I'm not sure but I think the current fee dig takes your good stuff ( rarer finds) too. Think you just get to keep the common stuff but I may be wrong. Lots of teeth there. Used to commonly find a hundred or more in a days dig.....Mel You pay them, and they keep the good stuff? Nice scam.
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Post by inyo on May 31, 2015 21:50:28 GMT -5
Yep, I'm an old Cadys hunter. No dino bone or shark teeth there. Wrong age and volcanic rocks. There is some palm root. Bakersfield is fossil heaven. I used to go to Sharktooth Hill and sites the other side of the river all the time. Lots of fish and mammals besides the shark teeth too. I'm not sure but I think the current fee dig takes your good stuff ( rarer finds) too. Think you just get to keep the common stuff but I may be wrong. Lots of teeth there. Used to commonly find a hundred or more in a days dig.....Mel You pay them, and they keep the good stuff? Nice scam. Scam? Huh?
First off, I have no affiliation with the fee Ernst digs in the middle Miocene Sharktooth Hill Bone Bed near Bakersfield, California.
So, anyhow, here are the facts. Except for the scientifically invaluable specimens--articulated remains, for example, or significantly rare fossil assemblages, specimens the landowners have every right to retain for professional paleontologists to study (rules and regulations identifical to virtually every other famous public fee paleo-dig in the United States, by the way)--those who pay the fee to dig on Ernst properties get to keep everything they find, including the prized megalodon (Meg) teeth.
As quoted from one of the Ernst Quarries standard release forms: "All Diggers will be allowed to keep all teeth (including Megs) and fossils found with exception of scientifically significant assemblages and/or articulated fossils will be the property of the land owners."
Here's their Facebook page. Lots of happy, satisfied folks there, indeed. Note that public digging is now closed for the summer:
Ernst Quarries Facebook Page
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 1, 2015 10:20:02 GMT -5
As in seeing this Quote-"As quoted from one of the Ernst Quarries standard release forms: "All Diggers will be allowed to keep all teeth (including Megs) and fossils found with exception of scientifically significant assemblages and/or articulated fossils will be the property of the land owners."Quote
This is true in every fossil hunt in every state that allows it-It's only the right thing to do,to preserve history!!!
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