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Post by mohs on Jun 4, 2016 13:31:52 GMT -5
I recently saw an article about some places using human waste (for you that is shit) as a power source. Don't have to spend a lot of bucks trying to get rid of it and everyone in the community happily participates. Can you imagine the amount of power a city like New York could produce and how much money they would save on waste disposal. This could solve so many problems Ya know --I like to say wealthy society is greedy. They bitch & moan about food program. or throwing a damn sandwich to some poor sucker. No quarter. Well imagine if science can show a way to convert human excrement to energy. Power brokers will grow rich on shit! And the poor will have even less shit. But they’ll be eating well!! Because it’ll be in the interest of the rich to throw the dog a bone. To produce more shit. Making themselves so much more humane. mostly
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wampidytoo
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Post by wampidytoo on Jun 4, 2016 13:44:34 GMT -5
Well said mr.mohs. Jim
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Post by rockrose on Jun 4, 2016 20:51:28 GMT -5
rockrose there are some very opinionated people on here (me included) and being young does not exclude you from the "my tongue is louder than your tongue" mind games. You appear to be very intelligent (used a word that I had to look up haha) and you make some very good points. Billy jumps up and down and gets hysterical about oil getting us to where we are today but oil today is the same as oil from yesteryear. Science got us to where we are today because oil would still be oil without science turning it into evil polluting products that we can not live without today. I should take part of that back because pollution caused by plastics is the fault of lazy man who will not recycle and not oil. There are many scientific facts that will not change or be debunked. Terminal velocity for different objects will only change by changing the wind resistance or the location on the planet. A pointed object will fall faster than a round object etc. etc. If there were no scientific certainties we would not have a lot of the things we now have or do a lot of things we now do. There are still a lot of things we do not know and some things we think we know will be debunked but the young minds that have an opinion, or wish to prove things, will change the future for better (or worse) but things will not stay the same. Like someone else on here said, it is refreshing to have a young mind participating on this forum and I hope you stick around. A few bruises only makes you stronger. haha Jim Thank you, Wampidytoo! I was not sure if you were calling me young, or that I just had a young mind! Heehee...I'll take what I can get, since I am 62 this year and drawing that "entitlement" social security, since there are no jobs here, even if I could physically do the work! I have been following your comments with much relief that I am not the only "libtard" in the group. Mostly. I am skeptical about everything, even science, and I could rant for hours on just about any political or religious subject. I love to research everything, and I won't talk about anything unless I have. Still, I can be wrong often, and I'm happy to admit it. I will try not to do too much ranting on here, but it is hard to resist when you see so much rumor and gossip flying around like it was the real deal! I was seriously hoping there were some more scientific types here, but this still looks like one of the best forums for rock hounds I've found!
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Post by spiritstone on Jun 9, 2016 12:36:40 GMT -5
How Canada was outplayed by America in the race to become an energy superpower: Canada once fancied itself an emerging energy superpower. Instead, it has been outplayed by the United States, its biggest customer, which has raced ahead to become its top oil and gas competitor. Canada had all the promise of big reserves, great technology, stable governments and world-leading regulation, but, as it turned out, the U.S. won by making its own luck: rejecting the Keystone XL pipeline to frustrate Canadian oil growth, fracking up a storm and building energy infrastructure faster. It also received plenty of help from Canadians blocking oil and gas transportation and infrastructure in their own country. The result is that the U.S. has grown its oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG) production to world-leading levels — and pushed its Canadian counterparts out of their own market — by flooding Eastern Canada with product and scooping Canada in the race to export around the world. To add insult to energy, American companies are buying Canadian oil for less because Canada has no other buyers. “We as Canadians have a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot,” says John Brussa, vice-chairman of Calgary-based law firm Burnet, Duckworth & Palmer LLP, and a board member of eight Canadian producers. www.financialpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=business.financialpost.com%2Ffinancial-post-magazine%2Fhow-canada-was-outplayed-by-america-in-the-race-to-become-an-energy-superpower
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mrzulu
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Post by mrzulu on Jun 20, 2016 10:00:34 GMT -5
spiritstone - Can you give us a pictorial tour of Athabasca tar sands? I am unable to do pictures...
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Post by spiritstone on Jun 20, 2016 12:21:40 GMT -5
spiritstone - Can you give us a pictorial tour of Athabasca tar sands? I am unable to do pictures... Depends...what are you setting me up for? Who's point of view. Hahaha Could you elaborate more on that, not positive what your looking for?
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mrzulu
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Post by mrzulu on Jun 20, 2016 12:25:52 GMT -5
Just the mining operation... From an Eagles point of view. Or a helicopter. You know... The roads the trucks take the bituminous sands for loading on to trains....
Those kind of photos...
Opinions are for others to form.
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spiritstone
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Post by spiritstone on Jun 20, 2016 12:29:02 GMT -5
Just the mining operation... From an Eagles point of view. Or a helicopter. You know... The roads the trucks take the bituminous sands for loading on to trains.... Those kind of photos... Opinions are for others to form. How about a youtube clip? Birdseye view.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 21, 2016 10:23:15 GMT -5
Here is one for you. It has a lot of birds eyes that are now closed forever.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 21, 2016 10:31:17 GMT -5
Another one. This is hard to watch if your a bird lover.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 21, 2016 10:36:08 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 21, 2016 10:42:53 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 21, 2016 10:49:54 GMT -5
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 21, 2016 11:56:10 GMT -5
That fact alone should reduce the anti-pipeline movement to shreds, if pipeline people had the gumption to stand up and say something about it. Green energy is irrefutably and absolutely intertwined with electrical power generation and transmission, yet the weirdest moss-eating fossil-fuel hating troglodyte wouldn’t live under one of the lines. That aspect alone highlights the hypocrisy of anti-pipeline analysis. As icing on the cake, from a local source even, a British Columbia medical journal had this to say about living near power lines: “Using current BC leukemia rates[4] and assuming similar proportions of the population live near high voltage lines, on a statistical basis, there may be one additional leukemia in BC every 2 years. To eliminate this risk, one would need to achieve a separation distance of 600 m between every high voltage power line and the nearest residence.” Let’s try an apparently unique thought experiment about potential problems associated with green energy infrastructure, the very thought of which is like sunlight to a vampire for anti-pipeline people. Consider hydroelectric power, the largest source of renewable energy accounting for an estimated 7 percent of global power and half of all renewable (green) energy. For anyone who can grasp the concept of irony, it is mystifying how someone can find time to speculate about the “worst case” of a pipeline spill without considering the worst case of a hydroelectric dam failure. A pipeline spill might significantly dirty a river; a hydroelectric dam failure would clog that river with people, cars, buildings and, finally, indeterminable amounts of toxic chemicals like gravy over the whole mess. Hmm, few studies available on that…boereport.com/2016/06/21/natural-gas-and-power-can-move-anywhere-but-oil-is-too-dangerous-how-long-do-we-have-to-put-up-with-this-nonsense/
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mrzulu
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Post by mrzulu on Jun 21, 2016 17:29:14 GMT -5
spiritstone - Can you give us a pictorial tour of Athabasca tar sands? I am unable to do pictures... Depends...what are you setting me up for? Who's point of view. Hahaha Could you elaborate more on that, not positive what your looking for? It wasn't you I setup...lol
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 22, 2016 1:24:16 GMT -5
When it comes to blaming modern climate change for the recent flooding in Paris, this picture says a thousand words Anthony Watts / 7 days ago June 15, 2016 From the “they should put this picture in the Louvre” department: Recent over-the-top wailings from the usual suspects have been blaming current climate change for the flooding in Paris. We already demonstrated how one statue and high watermarks tell the story, but this one from Kristine Mitchell and Julien Knez is even better. More than 100 years ago, the Seine River rose a record breaking 8.6 m above usual levels, causing the catastrophe known as the 1910 Great Flood of Paris. Over the past week, as the picturesque streets of the French capital city began to submerge once again, artist Julien Knez was struck by the similar atmosphere of fear and awe brought on by water slowly creeping up over the river’s embankments. This time around, though water levels peaked at 6.10m, Knez images demonstrate the striking similarities between eras as the landmarks of Paris are transformed by river swell, back in 1910 and now in 2016. Last time the river flooded, it ended up costing the city nearly $1.5 billion dollars in damages, and parts of the city were submerged for nearly two months. This time, flooding was fairly sudden, causing widespread closure of transportation and several famous museums including the Louvre and Musee d’Orsay. Masterpieces that were being stored in the basement of the former had to be moved elsewhere for protection, and thousands were evacuated from their homes. Even now, as water levels slowly return to normal in Paris, Knez’s photo comparisons capture the shocking power of nature as humans scramble to get out of its way. There are many more similar comparisons here. www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/julien-knez-paris-flooding-then-now
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 22, 2016 1:37:16 GMT -5
Depends...what are you setting me up for? Who's point of view. Hahaha Could you elaborate more on that, not positive what your looking for? It wasn't you I setup...lol
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mrzulu
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Post by mrzulu on Jun 22, 2016 8:45:06 GMT -5
My point was answered... ROFLMAO (Rolling On Floor Laughing My A$$ Off) Off to the high desert. Will be off the grid for awhile. Going to check out 120 acre plot in Modoc County California. Some 60 miles off the grid. Then we are headed to the Sunstone mines in Oregon. Will Update when we return to Oil-Land...
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Post by captbob on Jun 22, 2016 17:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by spiritstone on Jul 5, 2016 15:00:28 GMT -5
2014 2015 Old post and the latest updated picture, 3 years running and the snow pack continues to grow. I guess this is what you call climate change, we seem to be having the opposite effect of melting in the higher altitudes. All of these photos were taken in the month of July since 2014 to 2016. 2016 I never planned to do any rock hounding this weekend, a little back country hiking, but with all this rock around me, I couldnt resist the urge to go looking. Hahaha. Hopped in one of a few streams that had some large slabs of shale laying around and managed to find a decent looking fern. Didnt pack any tools so I chipped away at it with some larger sized stones until it broke in half. At least i was able to walk away with something in tow.
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