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Post by broseph82 on Oct 25, 2015 19:37:51 GMT -5
Took a 6hr [round] trip to TN today to go look at a Viking tumbler and a Lortone vibe lap. From the pictures I saw they looked to be fairly decent. I cannot find a vibe lap around here for the life of me. Always in Cali or up NW area with pick-up only. When I got to the house I noticed a stack of rocks on the porch (pet wood among some others). The lady answered and took me over to the barn. There was this Viking tumbler (with another hopper that was found) and the Lortone vibe lap. The vibe lap looked pretty beat up. Has some rotted balls and springs need replacing as well. It walked all over the place and gave me a good laugh. The tumbler's belt (one of them) broke last night and both power cords need replacing. But a'las here they are. Quick pics after bringing them in after 6hrs in the car. Oh yeah forgot to mention that I scored about 60-80lbs (I'll weigh em tomorrow) of petoskey stones, pet wood, thunder eggs, etc for an extra $20. What would you pay for these two machines (knowing the balls/springs need replacing, power cords need replacing, and belts need to be ordered)? Got lucky and stopped at Kroger for gas and only paid 0.86/gal for gas. My card gave me $1 off each gallon and only needed 11 gallons (1/2 tank).
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Oct 25, 2015 23:14:47 GMT -5
Great score!!!!!!!!!! Any photos of the rocks too???
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Post by Peruano on Oct 26, 2015 7:20:01 GMT -5
By investing in the drive, you deserved a bargain. And since you really, really wanted the equipment, as long as it works for you, you received a priceless acquisition. The rocks are a bonus. Enjoy them all. When you look back a few months or years from now, what I would have paid have no importance. It will be how much did you enjoy them and what it caused you to do by having them. Tom
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 26, 2015 7:21:08 GMT -5
By investing in the drive, you deserved a bargain. And since you really, really wanted the equipment, as long as it works for you, you received a priceless acquisition. The rocks are a bonus. Enjoy them all. When you look back a few months or years from now, what I would have paid have no importance. It will be how much did you enjoy them and what it caused you to do by having them. Tom I like that. I'm just curious by just seeing these photos what someone would throw down for them. I paid $320 total. I don't have the waffle like grid that the rocks sit on for the 20in lap. Any ideas where to get one? Great score!!!!!!!!!! Any photos of the rocks too??? I drove in the rain so al the sacks of rocks were soaked and I was really tired last night. I'll take some pics today and share.
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Post by Peruano on Oct 26, 2015 8:24:47 GMT -5
You had a much better day than I did. I was helping an elderly friend whose house recently burned down. We were salvaging what we could, but it was mostly therapy, helping him deal with letting go of stuff that he had collected over many decades. And we wonder why people have trouble letting go of rocks and equipment that is built of iron, diamonds, and ingenuity. Tom
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 26, 2015 9:18:58 GMT -5
Just looking at that jiggle pan, I'll bet a 20" HP (Diamond Pacific now) would work.
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 26, 2015 14:04:17 GMT -5
Just looking at that jiggle pan, I'll bet a 20" HP (Diamond Pacific now) would work. The actual pans are about 19-1/4" across on the inside jakesrocks Also, looking at th FL20 parts list it doesnt show that grid looking piece for the grind pan. So was this an aftermarket thing or a later model that they started including that?
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 26, 2015 14:44:23 GMT -5
Congratulations!! They will make a nice fixer up project and then you'll have lots of use out of them for your continued enjoyment. What price can you really put on that, considering you already paid what I assume you thought was a fair enough price? The rest is just the satisfaction of the purchase.
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 26, 2015 15:33:06 GMT -5
Congratulations!! They will make a nice fixer up project and then you'll have lots of use out of them for your continued enjoyment. What price can you really put on that, considering you already paid what I assume you thought was a fair enough price? The rest is just the satisfaction of the purchase. Yeah I went in thinking of the price of $300 for everything because of prices I've seen online and got it for that without too much of a fuss. The lady wanted to up the price substantially (because of the 2nd hopper that was found with the tumbler--after), but since she knew I was going to be using these two piece and not just flipping them for profit she decided to give it for the price I asked.
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 26, 2015 15:49:07 GMT -5
"jakesrocks Also, looking at th FL20 parts list it doesnt show that grid looking piece for the grind pan. So was this an aftermarket thing or a later model that they started including that?"
If you're talking about the HP/Diamond Pacific pans, I just got rid of a 20" HP a couple months ago. It was built in the 1980's. It and the Diamond Pacific copy both had the grid pattern cast right into them. What's more, the grid pattern & lip are cast into both sides. When the grid starts wearing out on one side, you can just flip the pan over.
Wish I still had the pan here to measure. I'll bet if you contacted Diamond Pacific, they could get the measurements for you.
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 26, 2015 16:06:36 GMT -5
"jakesrocks Also, looking at th FL20 parts list it doesnt show that grid looking piece for the grind pan. So was this an aftermarket thing or a later model that they started including that?" If you're talking about the HP/Diamond Pacific pans, I just got rid of a 20" HP a couple months ago. It was built in the 1980's. It and the Diamond Pacific copy both had the grid pattern cast right into them. What's more, the grid pattern & lip are cast into both sides. When the grid starts wearing out on one side, you can just flip the pan over. Wish I still had the pan here to measure. I'll bet if you contacted Diamond Pacific, they could get the measurements for you. What I am asking is about the Lortone. Did it originally come with the grid? In the manual online it doesn't show the grid as being part of the machine.
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 27, 2015 9:17:56 GMT -5
fossilman. As requested: Petoskey: Pudding stone Is this some type of honeycomb coral? This piece actually has hex crystals coming out of the holes The man who collected these was from Michigan snowmom Jugglerguy This is a very cool piece. Pink all around the banding. Not sure what kind but I'm sure someone will chime in edit: Calico Lace agate Some gemmy olivine And some pet wood. These were MFRB's and only 1 bag out and 6 more to go. I can see how it can be overwhelming
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 27, 2015 20:49:39 GMT -5
Those look like some decent Petoskeys and the pudding stones don't look too bad either. What do you think, Drummond Island Rocks?
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 27, 2015 20:54:00 GMT -5
Those look like some decent Petoskeys and the pudding stones don't look too bad either. What do you think, Drummond Island Rocks? What makes a petoskey stone good?
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 27, 2015 21:15:50 GMT -5
It's not easy to tell from your picture, but I look for a good pattern with lots of contrast. Some Petoskeys are washed out looking. Generally I've found that beach rocks are better than quarry rocks. Yours are rounded beach rocks. Some have non-Petoskey parts, but they can still be decent. See that big one hiding behind some others in the bottom left corner? It has some black matrix rock that isn't good. It will probably smell like oil if you grind it. In your picture you look like you might have some that are bad or I'm just seeing the backs, but others look quite nice. The other bad qualities are porous rocks (you can easily see holes) or hard, white Petoskeys. The hard ones tend to have poor patterns. Horrible Petoskeys (polished): Great Petoskeys:
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 27, 2015 21:17:34 GMT -5
You know not to tumble them, right? That is, unless you use my secret recipe. You can polish them on a grinder or even by hand with wet/dry automotive sand paper.
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 28, 2015 17:18:34 GMT -5
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 29, 2015 9:19:42 GMT -5
Did a clean out. It's been 16hrs and I'd say the rocks have been rounded some. Here's what they looked like: The smalls all had tar and junk on them. Most of them are all clean of it This is the only piece in the hopper like it (different location) and I will post the final result once it's been through all stages Gotta get the vibe lap repaired and running today. Got grits ordered and hopefully be here within a week or so. Thanks jamesp for the reminder of where to get the bulk 50lb bags from. Edit: used the last of my 60/90 (only 8Tbsp). When this round is done I'll wash and set aside until grit gets here
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Post by Intheswamp on Oct 29, 2015 10:25:42 GMT -5
Dude!!!! You are killing me with envy!!!!!!!! You made out like a bandit!!!!!!!
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Post by jamesp on Oct 29, 2015 10:51:56 GMT -5
If running SiC 80 or 220, I only use 2 tablespoons. And 2 tablespoons for 500-1000-polish.
The 80 and 220 grit is shot after a day or two. That thing reduces big grit fast.
I do a clean out every day when doing 80 grit. Even at 2 tablespoons it gets pretty muddy.
I have run SiC 30 grit, I don't think it wears the polyurethane at all, a real durable rubber.
Wife has dog shows in Montgomery around Nov 20. I will run up to Wetumpka 20 miles away and play in your pet wood creeks. Give me a spot I won't get shot at if you don't mind. Like a creek name at a public road crossing so i can be semi protected by the road easement.
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