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Post by jamesp on Apr 29, 2016 6:09:24 GMT -5
Why would a very soft salt do anything to the surface of much harder stones. I should add that 1200 is not polish. It's prepolish at best. Unless you are jamesp then 500 AO in his vibe is polish. Lmfao Since you chose to single me out @shotgunner the master tumbler, 3-4 days in my vibe with sugar and Rock Shed AO 500 does give me a fine polish. Suggesting a remedial coarse in abrasives, good AO 500 does break down nicely to polish sir and thank you. As does SiC 30 to 500 in a rotary with the right slurry. That would be me Lmfao at you or anyone else for performing redundant steps. Suggest purchasing a rotary tumbler first. jamesp quite happy(and proud) of his(2-step) process thank you again. Works every time, no problem. Call me out all you want, at least tumble one load of rocks before assuming expert status. "I should add that 1200 is not polish. It's prepolish at best." Smiling, or Lmfao, take your pick.
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Post by grayfingers on Apr 29, 2016 6:40:18 GMT -5
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Post by Intheswamp on Apr 29, 2016 7:01:07 GMT -5
You really need to be eating more roughage in your diet....
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Apr 29, 2016 7:04:51 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Apr 29, 2016 7:06:20 GMT -5
You really need to be eating more roughage in your diet.... BS mutually exclusive of diet Ed.
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Post by grayfingers on Apr 29, 2016 7:08:01 GMT -5
Proof = Pudding...
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Post by jamesp on Apr 29, 2016 7:16:41 GMT -5
Yes, got that. superb analogy
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Post by orrum on Apr 29, 2016 8:26:05 GMT -5
LOL Good one, proof equal pudding!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 8:31:33 GMT -5
Why would a very soft salt do anything to the surface of much harder stones. I should add that 1200 is not polish. It's prepolish at best. Unless you are jamesp then 500 AO in his vibe is polish. Lmfao Since you chose to single me out @shotgunner the master tumbler, 3-4 days in my vibe with sugar and Rock Shed AO 500 does give me a fine polish. Suggesting a remedial coarse in abrasives, good AO 500 does break down nicely to polish sir and thank you. As does SiC 30 to 500 in a rotary with the right slurry. That would be me Lmfao at you or anyone else for performing redundant steps. Suggest purchasing a rotary tumbler first. jamesp quite happy(and proud) of his(2-step) process thank you again. Works every time, no problem. Call me out all you want, at least tumble one load of rocks before assuming expert status. "I should add that 1200 is not polish. It's prepolish at best." Smiling, or Lmfao, take your pick. I don't claim any status and apologize for touching a nerve. You are a master and can make magic happen. I pray my vibe can use the same 500 AO and make polish as you do. Again. I am sorry for poor wording. Please accept humble apology.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 9:56:32 GMT -5
I had intended to paint Jim as the master who does things that simply should not happen. But instead I pissed him off. Exactly the opposite of the intended flattery. Poor wording, and lack of sleep.... Deeply embarrassed. Jim is a friend. Never in a Brazilian years would I want to insult him.
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Post by bills on May 1, 2016 0:06:22 GMT -5
I don't know about the hardness but it sure makes them shine. Give it a try and see for yourself. bill
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Post by bills on May 1, 2016 0:17:20 GMT -5
My friend told me that he also uses it from start to finish, I have seen the results and it works. The rocks are very glossy and retain the original shape, next time I go to Fallbrook I will take some photos of his work ( next week ). It does leave a residue in the cracks but the ultrasonic cleaner quickly removes it ( cheapo H/F one ) bill
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Post by bills on May 1, 2016 0:49:24 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on May 1, 2016 6:38:39 GMT -5
I had intended to paint Jim as the master who does things that simply should not happen. But instead I pissed him off. Exactly the opposite of the intended flattery. Poor wording, and lack of sleep.... Deeply embarrassed. Jim is a friend. Never in a Brazilian years would I want to insult him. Apology accepted. Perhaps tired and testy myself, been burning candle on two ends. Georgian's not famous for comprehensive skills, check 'National Regency Test'. Scores well below national average. Apologize bills for drama crash. Baking soda/Borax subject mysterious and very pertinent to final luster and needs addressing. Borax can wedge difficult to remove white concretions in pits of rocks if allowed to run too dry. Baking soda may not create this issue if it will dissolve. Looking forward to giving it a go.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 9:42:16 GMT -5
I had intended to paint Jim as the master who does things that simply should not happen. But instead I pissed him off. Exactly the opposite of the intended flattery. Poor wording, and lack of sleep.... Deeply embarrassed. Jim is a friend. Never in a Brazilian years would I want to insult him. Apology accepted. Perhaps tired and testy myself, been burning candle on two ends. Georgian's not famous for comprehensive skills, check 'National Regency Test'. Scores well below national average. Apologize bills for drama crash. Baking soda/Borax subject mysterious and very pertinent to final luster and needs addressing. Borax can wedge difficult to remove white concretions in pits of rocks if allowed to run too dry. Baking soda may not create this issue if it will dissolve. Looking forward to giving it a go. Yay! Baking soda has a high'ish pH. Maybe a slight chemical adjustment to the very surface??? Have all parts to get my barrel made. Need tumbler noise in the garage. Have lots of rocks.
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Post by jamesp on May 1, 2016 11:56:46 GMT -5
@shotgunner Make sure you grind an internal bevel so rocks don't get jammed at the glue joints.
No matter if you are just going to use them for coarse grind. May want to use them for finishing one day.
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Post by glennz01 on May 1, 2016 12:48:14 GMT -5
I have my doubts but I have extra baking soda I never use and too many rocks to tumble. After I get everything through pre-polish I will give it a 1 week test... if it does work I will see how it matches up to my AL polish. I know that rocks can polish themselves somewhat without any polishing compound but not a very high polish.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 13:13:49 GMT -5
@shotgunner Make sure you grind an internal bevel so rocks don't get jammed at the glue joints. No matter if you are just going to use them for coarse grind. May want to use them for finishing one day. Good advice. Until I build the vibe, I will run all steps in the roller.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 13:18:23 GMT -5
Baking soda/Borax subject mysterious and very pertinent to final luster and needs addressing. Borax can wedge difficult to remove white concretions in pits of rocks if allowed to run too dry. Baking soda may not create this issue if it will dissolve. Looking forward to giving it a go. To me borax is useful for cleaning and killing bacterias. I saw zero difference in the three loads I did when I first joined here. Borax or no. Nothing different. Baking soda? You will probably school us.
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Post by jamesp on May 1, 2016 14:03:41 GMT -5
Baking soda/Borax subject mysterious and very pertinent to final luster and needs addressing. Borax can wedge difficult to remove white concretions in pits of rocks if allowed to run too dry. Baking soda may not create this issue if it will dissolve. Looking forward to giving it a go. To me borax is useful for cleaning and killing bacterias. I saw zero difference in the three loads I did when I first joined here. Borax or no. Nothing different. Baking soda? You will probably school us. After 3-4 days AO 500 in sugar polish is fine, but improved by the Borax. The Borax run does me well with the Viking with Mohs 7. a very high luster. However, with obsidian I lost polish using Borax. And the Viking gives me a substandard polish on obsidian. The 2 step does not work for me on obsidian, only Mohs 7 stuff. The best I can do with obsidian is 500-1000-5000-14,000, no Borax run. Maybe adjusting counterweights will improve the obsidian. Am certain it is too much amplitude. Vibes not created equal. I think the Lot-O has the shortest amplitude, avoids pitting.
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