vayank5150
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Post by vayank5150 on Jan 30, 2017 19:37:55 GMT -5
So, I just received my latest shipment of grit and plastic pellets. However, they also included a bag of "grit saver". What the heck is this stuff and how should I use it?
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jan 31, 2017 10:03:10 GMT -5
Is it a red powder ?
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vayank5150
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Post by vayank5150 on Jan 31, 2017 10:10:27 GMT -5
No, a grey powder.
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tkvancil
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Post by tkvancil on Jan 31, 2017 10:13:16 GMT -5
I had not heard of this stuff before so I looked it up. This product claims to make grit stick to the rocks better in tumbling and lapping. Looks like you should add 1 teaspoon of this stuff for every 4 tablespoons of grit. Wonder if it works?
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 31, 2017 10:18:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 10:22:56 GMT -5
It's probably powder kitty litter
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Post by captbob on Jan 31, 2017 10:25:47 GMT -5
From that Kingsley link that wigglin' posted, I'm not sure this stuff is for a rotary tumbler chock full of water. Flat laps or even vibe tumblers maybe. Never seen or even heard of the stuff before, so just a guess.
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 31, 2017 10:25:54 GMT -5
It's probably powder kitty litter Or some dyed Georgia red clay from james
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Post by jamesp on Jan 31, 2017 10:40:02 GMT -5
It's probably powder kitty litter Or some dyed Georgia red clay from james Slipped it in the back door and had them rename it. Already shipped 16 tractor trailers to them. Net income $2,629,000 as of June 2016. Pretty sure it is a colloidal clay. Ah, made by Covington and believe it is a clay mined near Redlands California. Initially intended for slurry thickener for rotary tumblers. txrockhunter found it a couple of months ago on Covington web site.
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 31, 2017 10:42:37 GMT -5
Or some dyed Georgia red clay from james Slipped it in the back door and had them rename it. Already shipped 16 tractor trailers to them. Net income $2,629,000 as of June 2016. Pretty sure it is a colloidal clay. Sneaky little devil , but your secret is out now
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Post by jamesp on Jan 31, 2017 10:51:28 GMT -5
Dang clay slurry thickener has been around since the stone ages. Go figure. Covington probably refined it and removed the silica. I forgot what type of clay it is, but the name was hard to pronounce. I think @shotgunner recognized the name of that clay. txrockhunter ?? My Georgia clay is in the kaolin family for the record. Kaolin = eroded felspar = high aluminum oxide content = cadillac of heavy particle suspension Damn copy cats
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 11:13:56 GMT -5
Montmorrillonite
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 31, 2017 11:14:32 GMT -5
And just when you were starting to turn a profit . Should have patented it
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Post by jamesp on Jan 31, 2017 11:26:12 GMT -5
That's it. Not sure if it is colloidal. Kaolin averages 30% aluminum oxide. HEAVY CLAY. So super dense. And very slick for lubricating value. The density helps a bunch to float heavy SiC particles. Not sure what the composition of montmorrillonite is. Or if it is colloidal. Doubt colloidal is required, but flat particles do suspend longer. Betting it is slick. Most clays are.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 31, 2017 11:27:02 GMT -5
And just when you were starting to turn a profit . Should have patented it Dog eat dog world
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Post by jamesp on Jan 31, 2017 12:11:56 GMT -5
Any drilling clay should do well for tumbling Add bentonite. Well drillers get this stuff by the ton in bags.
"Montmorillonite is used in the oil drilling industry as a component of drilling mud, making the mud slurry viscous, which helps in keeping the drill bit cool and removing drilled solids. It is also used as a soil additive to hold soil water in drought-prone soils, used in the construction of earthen dams and levees, and to prevent the leakage of fluids. It is also used as a component of foundry sand and as a desiccant to remove moisture from air and gases."
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Post by MrMike on Jan 31, 2017 12:41:38 GMT -5
It's probably powder kitty litter Or some dyed Georgia red clay from james I thought that it was psyllium like Metamucil
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Post by jamesp on Jan 31, 2017 13:17:58 GMT -5
Or some dyed Georgia red clay from james I thought that it was psyllium like Metamucil txrockhunter found a Covington write up on it. Description said it was that clay from California if memory serves. That is where the 'Montmorillonite' word came from. Psyllium is a great vibe slurry additive. Not sure it is used in the rotary. Sure may be, but me not aware. Went back and found it, here is the MSDS. Yes, silica reduced for respiratory reasons:
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Post by MrMike on Jan 31, 2017 17:20:15 GMT -5
I thought that it was psyllium like Metamucil txrockhunter found a Covington write up on it. Description said it was that clay from California if memory serves. That is where the 'Montmorillonite' word came from. Psyllium is a great vibe slurry additive. Not sure it is used in the rotary. Sure may be, but me not aware. Went back and found it, here is the MSDS. Yes, silica reduced for respiratory reasons: I stand corrected, thanks for the info.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 31, 2017 18:28:30 GMT -5
I was not sure, glad you prompted me. Good thread for the MSDS. If clay is good enough for Californian's then it's good enough for easterners.
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