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Post by Garage Rocker on Feb 14, 2017 8:49:29 GMT -5
Lots of goodies in that batch, James. Got to fire up the compu-tater in a bit and look at these on a bigger screen. I dig that leopard print coral, maybe fourth pic, if I remember right. The Rio moss is always a hit also. Good thing you're mixing in those Rio's sparingly.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 9:16:02 GMT -5
Lots of goodies in that batch, James. Got to fire up the compu-tater in a bit and look at these on a bigger screen. I dig that leopard print coral, maybe fourth pic, if I remember right. The Rio moss is always a hit also. Good thing you're mixing in those Rio's sparingly. Coral is out. All five 7 pound barrels rolling the Rio at his point. Will clean all 5 barrels out soon. Remove the 1-2 pound tumbles from each barrel and consolidate the balance into 3 barrels. Then fill the empty two barrels with fresh hammer broken rock. Add a fresh 1-2 pounder in each barrel. One of those barrels that has the largest ball shaped cobble close to 2 pounds is out grinding all the other barrels by a long shot. With 5 running, comparison can be made easily. Running the 2 pound cobble totally in conservative mode: 1) It is running a conservative 30 RPM. 2) The barrel is on the conservatively full side at 75%-80%. 3) Thicker than average clay slurry. 4) Plenty of smalls. Call it 'safe mode'. In all respects except the heavy force of 2 pounds having a discussion with the small tumbles. These have all been running with SiC 60 grinding wheels that constantly shed grit and additions of SiC 30 loose grit. Lots of abrasive. The running of average size tumbles with a big rock continues to be the fastest coarse grind even in 'safe mode'. It is standard practice at this point.
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Post by captbob on Feb 14, 2017 9:36:19 GMT -5
This sample moss is part of a ~4 pound cobble found at the Rio. Nice high grader Lots of liquid chalcedony Favorite. Horizon getting closer.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 9:45:16 GMT -5
Wonder which slope it washed down from. Dead ugly rock on the outside. Window revealed the beauty within @catbob.
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Post by captbob on Feb 14, 2017 9:50:25 GMT -5
Coral is out. All five 7 pound barrels rolling the Rio at his point. Running five 15 lb barrels right now. Starting 6th today - 2nd blue 15 lb tumbler came in the mail and needs breakin' in! Lota rocks running. House hums at night. Mostly Rios. One barrel has just one huge Rio in it, nothing else as other rocks slowed things down. Just room for ceramics. Shelf tumbler is on "thumps" every rotation as huge rock tumbles in high speed tumbler. Progressing nicely once I took out the other rocks. Two barrels in polish stage. FINALLY! woot One polish barrel is a big stone canyon with a boat load of charoite put in as filler. Had done a bunch of charoite years ago - remember when charoite was 10 bucks a pound and we thought it was expensive? Just seeing if I can step up the charoite polish after years of tumbling schoolin'. We'll see...
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Post by captbob on Feb 14, 2017 10:11:02 GMT -5
Got in a box of AO 60 & AO 80 yesterday along with a box of goodies from The Rock Shed (candy!) Gonna move that big honkin' Rio from SiC 46/70 to AO 60 soon. First try using that coarse AO grit. Old dog tryin' to learn a new trick. woof
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 10:19:06 GMT -5
"Mostly Rios. One barrel has just one huge Rio in it, nothing else as other rocks slowed things down. Just room for ceramics. Shelf tumbler is on "thumps" every rotation as huge rock tumbles in high speed tumbler. Progressing nicely once I took out the other rocks."
Is this the 5 pound monster ?
I can see you running ceramic media or small rocks with it. At 2 pounds I have to run lots of smalls. No other big rocks. No way my little barrels would allow entry of a 5 pound rock. And if it could put it in there you would have to run small smalls just to get any movement with small 6 inch diameter.
Anticipating big Rio, Stone Canyon and Chariote. Chariote a wild rock.
ETA Your Florida real estate market is picking up. I have had two 10 acre lots for sale for like 9 years in Pierson FL. Within the past month both have separate contracts on them. Enamored with joy, annual taxes are $3500/year. Sick of paying them. I got caught with my pants down holding them in the 2008 crash. Selling at a loss 9 years later... Prices never have come back up from 2007. Should have never bought them. Hind/fore sight.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 10:24:52 GMT -5
Got in a box of AO 60 & AO 80 yesterday along with a box of goodies from The Rock Shed (candy!) Gonna move that big honkin' Rio from SiC 46/70 to AO 60 soon. First try using that coarse AO grit. Old dog tryin' to learn a new trick. woof You will like the AO. Does not seem to make much difference-AO 22/AO 80. The rotary crunches it up in short order. The 80 will clean up the worst SiC 45/70 has to offer. Hey, I'm the old dog. Shafts for your Thumlers ?
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Post by captbob on Feb 14, 2017 10:31:15 GMT -5
I'd say (guessing) it is 10 to 12 pounds. Biggest rock I've ever tried to tumble. Will weigh it. See if I have a before picture ... can't find one, will take pic when I do clean out. BIG sucker!
Good luck on your 10 acre tracts. Land Baron with acreage on each side of Lake George! Lord Jim
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Post by captbob on Feb 14, 2017 10:35:30 GMT -5
Yup, spare shafts. Hate needing something and not having it on hand. Tuck 'em away and hope I can remember where I put them when I need them. Kingsley sells the rubber rollers and the round guides to refurbish shafts, but it's a bitch getting the old rollers off and the new ones on. For 6-8 bucks for the complete shaft it's not worth the battle to redo the old shafts.
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Post by captbob on Feb 14, 2017 10:42:09 GMT -5
Mother in Law coming back today - again. She's okay, little yappy dog I could do without. Told to clean up my mess(es). I don't consider rocks everywhere a "mess". wimmins ...
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 10:45:58 GMT -5
I'd say (guessing) it is 10 to 12 pounds. Biggest rock I've ever tried to tumble. Will weigh it. See if I have a before picture ... can't find one, will take pic when I do clean out. BIG sucker! Good luck on your 10 acre tracts. Land Baron with acreage on each side of Lake George! Lord Jim 10-12 !! Humongo. I believe you posted it before. A big red one. Yea, land baron did well till 2008 hit. Paid 280K for those two lots. Sell for about half that. Ouch. Add 35K in taxes over 9 years. Ouch. So, the 140K loss will go against a gain when the Lake George lot sells. It will sell at a high price. Gain guaranteed. Tax man says I can apply 3K/year of loss to profits from fire pits( 140 divided by 3 equal like 47 years, I'll be dead). But gains from property sales allow full application of loss in year of gain from property sale. It is all a tax game. In this case, most of my retirement.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 10:48:01 GMT -5
Mother in Law coming back today - again. She's okay, little yappy dog I could do without. Told to clean up my mess(es). I don't consider rocks everywhere a "mess". wimmins ... later wimmins, point made. Comprende
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Post by wigglinrocks on Feb 14, 2017 10:54:33 GMT -5
Very nice , love the corals and rios Most of the Rio material shapes about 40% faster than the coral wigglin. Chert and coral form from dissolved marine silicates. Rios similar but silica source is volcanic. I would have thought the Rios would be harder , the laker horn corals we find seem to grind down pretty fast . Some polish ok some don't
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 11:25:24 GMT -5
Coral here dead hard wigglin. Even in 500 pound heads. All depends on available dissolved silica.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 11:27:33 GMT -5
Mother in Law coming back today - again. She's okay, little yappy dog I could do without. Told to clean up my mess(es). I don't consider rocks everywhere a "mess". wimmins ... later Hi Mom !
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Post by wigglinrocks on Feb 14, 2017 11:35:36 GMT -5
jamesp That is a color! Old mother nature knows what she is doing...............................MrP Would like to drag all you guys up in snow country to the south Texas desert and put you on the colors down there. May have to do it in February to avoid thawing y'all out too much. Mother nature was generous down there. Now that is one heck of an idea . Talking 50s this coming weekend , heat stroke . Heading out to the local gravel pits .
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Post by jamesp on Feb 14, 2017 11:46:12 GMT -5
Would like to drag all you guys up in snow country to the south Texas desert and put you on the colors down there. May have to do it in February to avoid thawing y'all out too much. Mother nature was generous down there. Now that is one heck of an idea . Talking 50s this coming weekend , heat stroke . Heading out to the local gravel pits . It would be great to get permission from a land owner down there and have a big collecting party.
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Post by wigglinrocks on Feb 14, 2017 11:54:50 GMT -5
We all like cash but if there were a way to compensate the landowner some other way that would be appreciated . Instead of turning it into a commercial fee for digging type thing .
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Post by doublet83 on Feb 14, 2017 12:00:54 GMT -5
Yup, spare shafts. Hate needing something and not having it on hand. Tuck 'em away and hope I can remember where I put them when I need them. Kingsley sells the rubber rollers and the round guides to refurbish shafts, but it's a bitch getting the old rollers off and the new ones on. For 6-8 bucks for the complete shaft it's not worth the battle to redo the old shafts. How often go thru a shaft? I recently broke one of the metal retainer clips because my barrel tends roll a bit unevenly towards one direction.
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