jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Aug 27, 2017 14:24:29 GMT -5
Around here, one can purchase as little as 1/2 cubic yard of landscape rocks. Load and haul yourself. Depending on which pit they came from the 1/2 yard contains many fossils, agates and other great materials. It pays to research the local pits to find out what their material contains. If you ask, landscape companies will often say which pit/gravel company their material came from. $8.00 for the 1/2 yard is a great investment around here, as it usually yields a lot of nice material. They often pave roads with fine quarried rock. Must have been 20 miles of gravel roads just in one peninsula on the Rio Grande loaded with agate. best to get there after the grader scrapped it fresh. Collectors pick them up. unfortunately railroad tracks are illegal in probably most cases. they can have lots of clean rock.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 27, 2017 21:40:09 GMT -5
Around here, one can purchase as little as 1/2 cubic yard of landscape rocks. Load and haul yourself. Depending on which pit they came from the 1/2 yard contains many fossils, agates and other great materials. It pays to research the local pits to find out what their material contains. If you ask, landscape companies will often say which pit/gravel company their material came from. $8.00 for the 1/2 yard is a great investment around here, as it usually yields a lot of nice material. They often pave roads with fine quarried rock. Must have been 20 miles of gravel roads just in one peninsula on the Rio Grande loaded with agate. best to get there after the grader scrapped it fresh. Collectors pick them up. unfortunately railroad tracks are illegal in probably most cases. they can have lots of clean rock. They do it on North Dakota roads too. Cobble base going down on this one. Noah took this picture today maybe 3 hours ago.. Cobbles of agate RR tracks are illegal to hunt in West Texas? Probably wouldn't be a good ideal close to border anyway.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 28, 2017 5:03:03 GMT -5
They often pave roads with fine quarried rock. Must have been 20 miles of gravel roads just in one peninsula on the Rio Grande loaded with agate. best to get there after the grader scrapped it fresh. Collectors pick them up. unfortunately railroad tracks are illegal in probably most cases. they can have lots of clean rock. They do it on North Dakota roads too. Cobble base going down on this one. Noah took this picture today maybe 3 hours ago.. Cobbles of agate RR tracks are illegal to hunt in West Texas? Probably wouldn't be a good ideal close to border anyway.
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In Florida they are fighting quarry operations. Some quarried rock from older times came out of wetland gravels chock full of mineralized ice age mammal bones/teeth and fossils. Florida water table is homogenous and sensitive. They want to use Georgia crushed granite and bring it in by rail. Water table in the piedmont of Georgia is in isolated sources. Hardly effected by deep quarry operations. Man do we have the quarries. Wells drilled hit cracks in granite and there is the water here in the piedmont. Drill a well 20 feet away and you may have a different fissure yielding different water. The well on this property - hit 4 cracks ranging from 2-4 inches from 30 to 170 feet deep. Driller pumped 500 GPM with his compressor, said compressor was maxed out and well was ready to put out more. I put a 35 GPM submersible down, it lowers static level barely 6 inches if run full time. Lots of water.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Aug 28, 2017 5:35:53 GMT -5
Around here, one can purchase as little as 1/2 cubic yard of landscape rocks. Load and haul yourself. Depending on which pit they came from the 1/2 yard contains many fossils, agates and other great materials. It pays to research the local pits to find out what their material contains. If you ask, landscape companies will often say which pit/gravel company their material came from. $8.00 for the 1/2 yard is a great investment around here, as it usually yields a lot of nice material. They often pave roads with fine quarried rock. Must have been 20 miles of gravel roads just in one peninsula on the Rio Grande loaded with agate. best to get there after the grader scrapped it fresh. Collectors pick them up. unfortunately railroad tracks are illegal in probably most cases. they can have lots of clean rock. Yep, I would say at least 25 percent of all my pudding stone tumbles have come from road gravel. Dirt road going to my cottage gets graded and spruced up a couple times a year. We keep exposing new rocks when we ride the ATV's too. We take a 1/2 mile or so walk every morning when we are there and just about every time find 1/2 to 1 pound of perfect tumble sized pudding stones. Our hole island is rock so they just quarry it where ever they are putting in a road. We have a family gravel pit from when we put our roads in. One of my neighbors just put in about 1.5 miles of new road this year and has a new pit so I need to ask if I can go check that out next. Chuck
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Post by jamesp on Aug 28, 2017 6:07:12 GMT -5
They often pave roads with fine quarried rock. Must have been 20 miles of gravel roads just in one peninsula on the Rio Grande loaded with agate. best to get there after the grader scrapped it fresh. Collectors pick them up. unfortunately railroad tracks are illegal in probably most cases. they can have lots of clean rock. Yep, I would say at least 25 percent of all my pudding stone tumbles have come from road gravel. Dirt road going to my cottage gets graded and spruced up a couple times a year. We keep exposing new rocks when we ride the ATV's too. We take a 1/2 mile or so walk every morning when we are there and just about every time find 1/2 to 1 pound of perfect tumble sized pudding stones. Our hole island is rock so they just quarry it where ever they are putting in a road. We have a family gravel pit from when we put our roads in. One of my neighbors just put in about 1.5 miles of new road this year and has a new pit so I need to ask if I can go check that out next. Chuck Glad to hear your supply is not from landscape beds and illegal overages from public lands lol. 25 pound limit is the most ridiculous law I have ever heard of considering the amount of rock in those lakes. I have seen your photos of the massive boulders on the island. Certainly you have puddingstone in any land disturbances. There is no crushed quarry rock along the Rio in S Texas. All road gravel comes from those agate rich pits, about all of them along the river.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Aug 28, 2017 7:21:36 GMT -5
Yep, I would say at least 25 percent of all my pudding stone tumbles have come from road gravel. Dirt road going to my cottage gets graded and spruced up a couple times a year. We keep exposing new rocks when we ride the ATV's too. We take a 1/2 mile or so walk every morning when we are there and just about every time find 1/2 to 1 pound of perfect tumble sized pudding stones. Our hole island is rock so they just quarry it where ever they are putting in a road. We have a family gravel pit from when we put our roads in. One of my neighbors just put in about 1.5 miles of new road this year and has a new pit so I need to ask if I can go check that out next. Chuck Glad to hear your supply is not from landscape beds and illegal overages from public lands lol. 25 pound limit is the most ridiculous law I have ever heard of considering the amount of rock in those lakes. I have seen your photos of the massive boulders on the island. Certainly you have puddingstone in any land disturbances. There is no crushed quarry rock along the Rio in S Texas. All road gravel comes from those agate rich pits, about all of them along the river. I suppose you have to put limits in place but 25 pounds per person per year is pretty darn strict. I seen a local news story last year about someone that backed their truck right up to the water on a public beach and filled it with beach rocks. Someone took a photo of the license plate and they got busted. I guess if they said 100 pounds per person per year it would be too easy for someone to just say this is all I have taken this year when they were questioned. In other words when you get stopped as long as you only have 25 pounds on you who would know if that is your tenth trip at 25 pounds or your first. The 25 pound law is for state land. I have never heard if there is a law for picking county road gravel? We have over 100 miles of dirt county roads that use local gravel. Our road is all private and we pay annually for maintenance so that is fair game.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 28, 2017 7:54:04 GMT -5
Glad to hear your supply is not from landscape beds and illegal overages from public lands lol. 25 pound limit is the most ridiculous law I have ever heard of considering the amount of rock in those lakes. I have seen your photos of the massive boulders on the island. Certainly you have puddingstone in any land disturbances. There is no crushed quarry rock along the Rio in S Texas. All road gravel comes from those agate rich pits, about all of them along the river. I suppose you have to put limits in place but 25 pounds per person per year is pretty darn strict. I seen a local news story last year about someone that backed their truck right up to the water on a public beach and filled it with beach rocks. Someone took a photo of the license plate and they got busted. I guess if they said 100 pounds per person per year it would be too easy for someone to just say this is all I have taken this year when they were questioned. In other words when you get stopped as long as you only have 25 pounds on you who would know if that is your tenth trip at 25 pounds or your first. The 25 pound law is for state land. I have never heard if there is a law for picking county road gravel? We have over 100 miles of dirt county roads that use local gravel. Our road is all private and we pay annually for maintenance so that is fair game. I catch your drift. That 25 pound would certainly be my daily limit. I get loading whole trucks. That is excessive. County municipalities will never worry about a rock collector picking up rocks out of the gravel. Glad the residents pay to maintain you roads. total collecting freedom again within reason. Road gravel gives a lot of visual for tumbles. In Floirda they quarry mass fossiliferous chert. Crush it to gravel. some is quite nice being full of fossils. You can be choosey about what you pick up to tumble as far as shape and fractures. The boulders in the Plant City FL. quarry are 20 feet across before crushing, solid chert w/some veining. They do all the work breaking it to tumble size.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 28, 2017 10:39:02 GMT -5
They do it on North Dakota roads too. Cobble base going down on this one. Noah took this picture today maybe 3 hours ago.. Cobbles of agate RR tracks are illegal to hunt in West Texas? Probably wouldn't be a good ideal close to border anyway.
In Florida they are fighting quarry operations. Some quarried rock from older times came out of wetland gravels chock full of mineralized ice age mammal bones/teeth and fossils. Florida water table is homogenous and sensitive. They want to use Georgia crushed granite and bring it in by rail. Water table in the piedmont of Georgia is in isolated sources. Hardly effected by deep quarry operations. Man do we have the quarries. Wells drilled hit cracks in granite and there is the water here in the piedmont. Drill a well 20 feet away and you may have a different fissure yielding different water. The well on this property - hit 4 cracks ranging from 2-4 inches from 30 to 170 feet deep. Driller pumped 500 GPM with his compressor, said compressor was maxed out and well was ready to put out more. I put a 35 GPM submersible down, it lowers static level barely 6 inches if run full time. Lots of water. That Bone Valley formation in Florida is a great one down around Polk County for marine fossils. Most if not all phosphate operations shut down, fenced and padlocked. Many valuable fossils were damaged and destroyed just by that long pipe transport from mining faces in the quarry to the stock piles at the processing plants. Georgia granite sounds like a better road material anyway. Lots of water out there. We cant drill a new well out west unless we trade water from old sources for rights to drill new ones. Rich Californians lawyers are always looking to buy our farmer's water rights. Some are tied to the land but others can be bought and sold. When ever I buy a new property I make sure the water rights are good ones or the property hasn't much value. Unless you're a prairie dog.. grin. Hellla good water production. Lightly tending toward acid? Here the ph is generally around 7 or a bit alkaline.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 28, 2017 10:46:26 GMT -5
They often pave roads with fine quarried rock. Must have been 20 miles of gravel roads just in one peninsula on the Rio Grande loaded with agate. best to get there after the grader scrapped it fresh. Collectors pick them up. unfortunately railroad tracks are illegal in probably most cases. they can have lots of clean rock. Yep, I would say at least 25 percent of all my pudding stone tumbles have come from road gravel. Dirt road going to my cottage gets graded and spruced up a couple times a year. We keep exposing new rocks when we ride the ATV's too. We take a 1/2 mile or so walk every morning when we are there and just about every time find 1/2 to 1 pound of perfect tumble sized pudding stones. Our hole island is rock so they just quarry it where ever they are putting in a road. We have a family gravel pit from when we put our roads in. One of my neighbors just put in about 1.5 miles of new road this year and has a new pit so I need to ask if I can go check that out next. Chuck Kind of handy to have your own laker and pudding stone mine ? Yep we pay serious attention to the road gravels. Live across the Uncompaghre River from a gravel pit. Don't hound it as much as I should but there's mostly granites , quartz, some conglomerate, a few banded iron and an occasional jasper, usually brecciated. An occasional agate, poorly colored.
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