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Post by grumpybill on Feb 24, 2018 12:43:35 GMT -5
I bought a used kiln last month and the lady made me haul of about 20 - 4x8x16 inch solid blocks w/it. Shouldn't that do the job Bill ? Typical 4" solid weighs ~30lbs. I think Lot-O recommends 40lbs. I'd glue 2 together. (Side benefit = not needing to bend over as far)
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2018 13:10:43 GMT -5
Good luck to you on your new venture, 'Jimglass'. If we know one thing, you'll go all in on it. Looks like you'll need to keep a couple pints of blood laying around, what with all that sharp glass. I know you have leather hands and all, but one of 'em is gonna get you some day. Better check the expiration date on those Rio's. If they're getting ready to go bad, just let me know! There is blood all over the place Randy. The tile saws gets used a lot and the blade is too coarse. Talk about slinging splinters. I just organized the bandaid box yesterday, presently got three little finger cuts that aggravate. The worst thing about the glass is the alkaline content, geez is is like Portland. The glass I am getting is soda glass and is made from limestone for some reason. Straw hair and dry skin. Open the tumbler and it burns nostrils. Soapy to touch slurry is obnoxious. The Rio's have been organized and put in an easy to access bunch of barrels. They are crying to be tumbled. I guess commodities like glass and rock don't have much of an expire date sorry.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2018 13:12:35 GMT -5
I bought a used kiln last month and the lady made me haul of about 20 - 4x8x16 inch solid blocks w/it. Shouldn't that do the job Bill ? Typical 4" solid weighs ~30lbs. I think Lot-O recommends 40lbs. I'd glue 2 together. (Side benefit = not needing to bend over as far) Can the blocks and the Lot-O sit on a solid table or do they need to be grounded ?
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Post by aDave on Feb 24, 2018 13:20:58 GMT -5
Substantial vase investment as of about 2 months ago, full commitment to venture named gemglass.biz. Wish me well OK...I will. I wish you well. Notwithstanding your commitment and enthusiasm about your new venture, and the beautiful work you're putting out, I'm actually intrigued about you being able to go out and find artisan glass blowers to get your material. I originally thought that glass blowing might have been more a regional thing, as I'd never run into one in the 34 years I worked in the City of Los Angeles. You made me look, however, and it turns out there are a few in the region. Interesting. I'm with Randy, if you find your fine tumbling material turning into dust from just sitting in piles, please let me know. Best regards.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2018 13:21:08 GMT -5
You really go all in! I had no idea you had so much glass! Good for you, James. I wish you the most amount of good luck in your venture. Hey Tela, it gets better. check out this glass blower's art patterns. He is renown, Matt Janke. Learned at Kent State. 22 years exp. I asked him what he thought about transferring bits of his blown art work into jewelry morsels. He did not care. It takes away from my originality but for that matter who the hell am I lol ? Why not market a fine established artist's touch sealed in glass ? Sort of a copyright infringement. Ok w/him it's OK w/mw... Photos don't do justice
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Post by grumpybill on Feb 24, 2018 13:23:02 GMT -5
jamesp I can't see any need for electrical grounding, if that's what you mean. The table would need to be very solid so as not to damp the vibrations. Probably not a problem with your welded steel tables.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2018 13:28:59 GMT -5
jamesp I can't see any need for electrical grounding, if that's what you mean. The table would need to be very solid so as not to damp the vibrations. Probably not a problem with your welded steel tables. I did mean mechanical grounding sorry. It is amazing such a small machine wants to hug up to 40 pounds. Vibrational energy is mysterious though. Thanks.
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 24, 2018 13:30:10 GMT -5
Dude, jamesp, I think you really stumbled into something! Get them to sign off on it.
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Post by grumpybill on Feb 24, 2018 16:24:30 GMT -5
...Vibrational energy is mysterious though. I've never studied vibrational energy in depth, but it can't be as mysterious as magnetism.
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Post by Mark K on Feb 24, 2018 17:06:30 GMT -5
When I was at Jim Grey's, they had gaylords full of glass ready to tumble. Nice stuff too.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2018 18:09:04 GMT -5
Substantial vase investment as of about 2 months ago, full commitment to venture named gemglass.biz. Wish me well OK...I will. I wish you well. Notwithstanding your commitment and enthusiasm about your new venture, and the beautiful work you're putting out, I'm actually intrigued about you being able to go out and find artisan glass blowers to get your material. I originally thought that glass blowing might have been more a regional thing, as I'd never run into one in the 34 years I worked in the City of Los Angeles. You made me look, however, and it turns out there are a few in the region. Interesting. I'm with Randy, if you find your fine tumbling material turning into dust from just sitting in piles, please let me know. Best regards. Well the endorsement is appreciated and you have kept an eye on me for a while in this glass venture. You seem truly impressed and that's great for me. At first I was surprised that the blowers had no takers for their scrap. Blown scrap can be tricky to get a flame/fuse polish on it so glass artists may not want to fool with it.
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Post by Pat on Mar 4, 2018 1:45:01 GMT -5
James, received a packet of little beauties today. They are outstanding. Company oohed and aahed appropriately. Fun to consider their future.
Thank you!
BTW how do you prepare your bryozoan? I imagine French frying them would be a good way, or grilling!
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Post by NRG on Mar 4, 2018 17:22:50 GMT -5
Typical 4" solid weighs ~30lbs. I think Lot-O recommends 40lbs. I'd glue 2 together. (Side benefit = not needing to bend over as far) Can the blocks and the Lot-O sit on a solid table or do they need to be grounded ? I took the wood base off my lotto and screwed it to the top of my tumbler frame. No bricks at all.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 4, 2018 18:51:03 GMT -5
Can the blocks and the Lot-O sit on a solid table or do they need to be grounded ? I took the wood base off my lotto and screwed it to the top of my tumbler frame. No bricks at all. I asked them if I could screw it down to a heavy I-beam. They said no, that the denseness of concrete is needed for proper action. What tumbler frame did you screw it to ? A heavy one ? Working well for you ?
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Post by jamesp on Mar 4, 2018 19:01:08 GMT -5
James, received a packet of little beauties today. They are outstanding. Company oohed and aahed appropriately. Fun to consider their future. Thank you! BTW how do you prepare your bryozoan? I imagine French frying them would be a good way, or grilling! I slaved for hours....NOT. Glad you like them Pat. Only my cooking tastes like Bryozoans. Remember this one ?
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Post by Pat on Mar 4, 2018 19:07:16 GMT -5
Yes, jamesp. I remember that one. Unfortunately! The fossil specimens are much nicer! BTW. I’ve been asked what kind of glass I have. What’s the answer. Simple, please!
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Post by NRG on Mar 4, 2018 19:23:54 GMT -5
I took the wood base off my lotto and screwed it to the top of my tumbler frame. No bricks at all. I asked them if I could screw it down to a heavy I-beam. They said no, that the denseness of concrete is needed for proper action. What tumbler frame did you screw it to ? A heavy one ? Working well for you ? It polished rocks. I haven't tuned it yet. Life got in the way. And with Jeannie moving in, it's kinda back burner now. The only difference I see between this and bricks is the wood will absorb some shock on both sides of the pulse. Bricks not so much. I did this without even considering it wouldn't polish. It just did.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 5, 2018 3:56:23 GMT -5
Yes, jamesp. I remember that one. Unfortunately! The fossil specimens are much nicer! BTW. I’ve been asked what kind of glass I have. What’s the answer. Simple, please! It is simply broken up hand blown and machine blown vases from all over the world Pat. Namely Poland, Italy, Turkey, Czechoslovakia and Romania. 'International tumbles' so as to impress them Maybe a few of them I melted(Georgia hillbilly glass), but don't tell them that.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 5, 2018 4:03:55 GMT -5
I asked them if I could screw it down to a heavy I-beam. They said no, that the denseness of concrete is needed for proper action. What tumbler frame did you screw it to ? A heavy one ? Working well for you ? It polished rocks. I haven't tuned it yet. Life got in the way. And with Jeannie moving in, it's kinda back burner now. The only difference I see between this and bricks is the wood will absorb some shock on both sides of the pulse. Bricks not so much. I did this without even considering it wouldn't polish. It just did. Well Hell's Bells. I am not going to comment on the unpredictability of vibration analysis and what effects it because it is totally mysterious. All I can tell you is deviate as you will and see if it will polish for you. Trial and error. Like minds, I just liquid nailed my solid half blocks together yesterday. I will say the true test is polishing obsidian or glass grrrr. That is some fickle crap to polish. Congrats on your new Lot-O ! ETA I have been hearing bumping sounds in my big rotary tumbler. It has been running like 8 years. Figured why yesterday The fat 1.5 inch shafts have been worn down to 1.25 inches where the fit in the pillar blocks, at 3 of 8 pillar blocks. The 3 of 4 idlers away from the driven side. I believe I have more 1.5 inch solid bar down in the graveyard(I hope). I may just redo the albatross.
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Post by SirRoxalot on Mar 11, 2018 18:04:26 GMT -5
I'm amazed at the stockpile of lovely glass you've accumulated, and look forward to hearing about your success selling the finished product.
Do you plan on drilling the pendants?
I make a lot of beach glass, buying colored old vases and bottles when they're cheap enough, never over five bucks or so, and old windows, etc.
I use carbide-tipped tile nippers to trim it down, which is a very slow business, but not as slow and messy as cutting it.
Then two weeks or so in the rotary to round and frost it; never bothered with a final polish, I can sell more than I can make.
Any hints on breaking the stuff down faster, and tumbling it faster?
Can't do anything too aggressive, as cracks and feather edges all have to be culled from the final product, a real pain.
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