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Post by MsAli on Feb 18, 2019 14:56:54 GMT -5
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Post by MsAli on Feb 20, 2019 17:43:45 GMT -5
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Post by MsAli on Mar 16, 2019 22:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by MsAli on Mar 18, 2019 15:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by MsAli on Mar 18, 2019 15:13:22 GMT -5
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Post by mohs on Mar 18, 2019 15:44:25 GMT -5
Interesting discussion The mindfulness video The speaker reminded me of 2 things Especially when she was mentioning the spinal rod My sister was born with cerebral palsy Never could walk-- but what a strong mind! When she was 10 years old she had a rod placed into her spine Wow! I recall her returning by plane, from Salt Lake City. where she was for 6 months during the surgery, in a full body plaster cast. uuuuuugggggggghhhhhhhh... Poor little girl All summer in the house she had to wear that cast for about 9 months! Well she came through that pretty well. She then had the same surgery about 30 years later. Technology had so much more improved. Well that woman is going to be celebrating her 69th birthday In a few days. I’m the thinking of you, sis. LovEd The second thing the speaker reminded me of was a video called, MindWalk. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MindwalkI've really enjoyed this thought provoking video Over the decades…
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Post by MsAli on Mar 18, 2019 16:09:39 GMT -5
Wish her a happy birthday from me as well Ed!
Its amazing how much technology has advanced.
Ive never seen Mindwalk-now ill have to watch it
My dad suffers from PTSD and 2 years ago he was going to end his life. My mom took him to the VA to see a psychologist and lets just say that didn't go well and after 2 visits he was done. He hasnt talked about it since and he like most other Vietnam vets I know are awfully stubborn about things. Especially when it comes to getting help. He calls this WOO WOO stuff and i've been living in Cali too long and so trying to get him to understand when he is out gardening, beekeeping, fishing those are all forms of mindfulness and he is at peace in those moments so what is wrong with trying it when he isn't doing those things?
I may not be able to get him to try it, but maybe I can get someone else to and maybe I can spread the word that the VA and other programs are available that do not include seeing a psychiatrist (which is a whole 'nother subject about peoples resistance to seek therapy)
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Post by mohs on Mar 18, 2019 16:37:38 GMT -5
Thanks Alison! People stubbornness & oxheadnesss Never ceases to amaze me although I might benefit to have some The most challenging book I ever read Deals with that subject Anyway I’m dealing with a close associate who refuses to follow doctor orders About his diabetes Going to do things his way Always did Always will Even at the expense of his own health Because his eyesight & hearing is going south And he ride his motor cycle at 100 miles an hour Anyway something I’m really trying to be helpful with it… can't say the right thing just try to be a good listener when he's willing to talk
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Post by MsAli on Mar 18, 2019 17:06:56 GMT -5
Working in neuro I see people all the time refusing to follow doctors "orders"
Why even go to the doctor if you are not gonna listen anyways ?
Type 2 diabetes lack of self care especially frustrates me -my grandpa died from it way before he should of.
But you cant force a horse to drink
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Post by mohs on Mar 18, 2019 17:20:35 GMT -5
Thanks again ali and interesting
Its cry for help but that help is just a Walk over bridge to far We like our self defensive walls
Again another insightful novel that deal with That self-fulfilling stubbornness
When Nietzsche Wept
such a humane study and excellent history
They made a movie, which is also highly recommended ...
I have a thought on why people who are in deep resist and refuse help When all that possibly left is something divine And that the only help they’ll truly accept! That which is more powerful can only cure their suffering They demand it! If that doesn't happen then all else all can be damned
How can they accept assistance from another fellow human? When that other -is just another- suffering soul such as them? Why aren't you cured? What gives you power to be able to help me? I won’t accept from you-- what you yourself--- can’t do for yourself. I won’t relinquish my power of self to another…
just an open thought on the psychic power play of self
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Post by MsAli on Mar 18, 2019 17:29:08 GMT -5
"We like our self defensive walls"
Thats another interesting topic
too many hide behind them because heaven forbid if we actually allow ourselves to have emotions and actually feel them
better to bottle them up and build walls
Didnt that book talk about obsessive thoughts and fantasies towards a romantic interest? which isn't reciprocated?
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Post by mohs on Mar 18, 2019 18:27:34 GMT -5
Not sure what novel you’re referring to? As far as Nietzsche is concerned
Biographically & in the novel He had a spurned love But N type walls were much different
In "Underground Man" Doestoesky paints his protagonist as one who will Spite his nose to affirm his will !
He literally rails against the walls of reasons He refuses to accept that 2 + 2 = that is something he refuses and will never acquiesce to !
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Post by MsAli on Mar 18, 2019 19:03:21 GMT -5
I dont think it was so much as a spurned love, rather it just wasnt felt the same towards him. If I remember correctly I might have to go back and read it.
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Post by mohs on Mar 18, 2019 19:28:59 GMT -5
If were talking about Lou Salome As the spurned love of N ? That occurred in the novel & reality
Its not really clear what type of relationship they had? But dear Lou didn’t let it get to deep It was quick That my read
The genius of the novel Is that Lou goes to Dr. Breur to set up a covert operation To save N from himself basically setting up the first psychoanalytical session
That in itself --was the type of trust issues that N would abhor! Walls not to be breached!
Yet what occurs-- is that the patient (N) cures the doctor
i'm due for re-read myself
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Post by MsAli on Mar 18, 2019 20:01:31 GMT -5
Yes ,I'll have done read it again. I was younger and not as wise the 1st time
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Post by MsAli on Mar 18, 2019 20:02:07 GMT -5
Ah that F word
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Post by amygdule on Mar 21, 2019 18:47:22 GMT -5
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Post by amygdule on Mar 28, 2019 19:49:49 GMT -5
You can lead a man to water but you can't make him think.
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Post by MsAli on Apr 12, 2019 10:08:09 GMT -5
I have been watching the kindness diaries and IMO it is a show that everyone needs to see
One of the episodes has some young paramedics and she said that when people are dying they always say "I wish I would of _______________"
Working in a office where people are going to die I have heard the same thing, from the patients to their family members left behind. It is always I wish I would of.
and recently I experienced that with one of my patients who I absolutely loved. Some just touch you in ways and he was one of them. He died a couple weeks ago from a battle with ALS.
He was estranged from his children due to a lifestyle choice he made. He made a choice to finally be who he was and he was one hell of a fabulous queen. He made attempt after attempt to connect with his sons and they rejected him. I dont know the whole story, because there is always, two sides and the truth lies somewhere in that. But I know sitting beside his hospital bed on more than one occasion, I know that hurt him more than anything.
He was just one of those people that lit up a room and made you laugh. His humor was so naughty and he was so kind and gentle and a giving person. I am gonna miss him.
One of his sons is cleaning out his home and he brought some equipment in to donate to other patients in need. (this is a hard part when the families do this) and I went out to meet him and tell him how his dad was loved by all of us. He told me he has met so many people who loved his father and then he said he wished he would of made the effort as an adult to know him. He will never get that EVER. It's too late and that will be something he will have to live with and hopefully come to terms with.
So I have reflected on this a lot and the thing I don't EVER want to say is I wish I would of spent more time with my parents before they are gone. So I am making plans to return home and get that time with them
and if you've read all that I want to know what is your I wish I would of __________ and what are your plans to make that happen before its too late
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stonemon
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Post by stonemon on May 3, 2019 22:14:05 GMT -5
Saw this tonight.......
Makes me sad that we are so blind.... or dense or something. We are something else!
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