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Post by johnw on Jan 29, 2019 21:16:47 GMT -5
3x3x2, Weighs 1.2 pounds and he is checking hardness MsAli: at those dimensions its not a big armadillo, maybe its a baby armadillo that got knocked into a river and drowned? I am for dissecting it to see what it is? Cheers, johnw
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Post by MsAli on Jan 29, 2019 21:47:28 GMT -5
3x3x2, Weighs 1.2 pounds and he is checking hardness MsAli : at those dimensions its not a big armadillo, maybe its a baby armadillo that got knocked into a river and drowned? I am for dissecting it to see what it is? Cheers, johnw I told him to cut a slice off but he wont. I would of cut it already
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Post by johnw on Jan 29, 2019 22:04:43 GMT -5
I told him to cut a slice off but he wont. I would of cut it already Oh well, onwards to the next story.........Mrs. Rhino at the Zoo............TBC........Oh, the drama...... Cheers, johnw
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Post by Pat on Jan 29, 2019 22:16:16 GMT -5
Hmmmm...some of those photos look like a dead potato—- about ready to be trashed.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 29, 2019 22:23:37 GMT -5
Hmmmm...some of those photos look like a dead potato—- about ready to be trashed.
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Post by fernwood on Jan 30, 2019 3:11:54 GMT -5
The new photos are interesting. Appears that the pattern is not just on the surface if I am seeing correctly.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 8:20:49 GMT -5
The new photos are interesting. Appears that the pattern is not just on the surface if I am seeing correctly. It does appear the pattern goes all the way through
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 8:41:19 GMT -5
Ok he said off the 94 western part of Montana close the Idaho border I assume that is I90, which would put in into an area that contains a lot of massive ancient lake mud deposits. That would tend to support a concretion (including something like a septarian nodule) or even oolite/pisolite that has been worn down. I'd want to cut it, but it is so attractive that I'd also want to email a photo to the guy linked on this page before doing so. Thank you for the suggestion. I had him email the guy last night. Hopefully he will respond.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 14:57:43 GMT -5
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Post by fernwood on Jan 30, 2019 15:24:56 GMT -5
It looks like there might be some iron in there. Has a magnet test been done?
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 15:30:24 GMT -5
It isnt magnetic, he said it doesn't smell like iron, and after he visits his gma in the hospital he will check hardness.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 15:37:27 GMT -5
Ok, he said it faintly smells of iron and it is easily scratched with steel knife.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 15:45:56 GMT -5
I am leaning towards iron concretion but he is convinced it is something more than that
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rockhoundoz
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Post by rockhoundoz on Jan 30, 2019 22:47:58 GMT -5
It's a very interesting looking item! Is it certainly a rock, or mineralized piece, as opposed to some other artifact like weather hardened dried leather? As a 2nd question to consider, is this the type of friend who might 'pull your leg' with a modern created hoax object? 😅 I'm tempted to say that in nearly every case that I can recall, reptile scales are not random or nearly as erratic and variable in size. They tend to form in radiating, or alternating, or parallel, or gradiating series, not willy-nilly some round, some hexagonal, some odd shapes. I'd say its geological not biological, and you can give points or not for the fact that I spent a lot of time studying reptile scales as a job. Certainly that's true for scales, but as a leather worker, & also as seen in dinosaur skin fossils, the patterns on skin are much less regular or geometrically patterned than scales, and the pattern on skin could become even more irregular/wonky after exposure to the elements. Here's a picture collage, showing from left to right, pic of mystery item, pic of 500 year old bovine leather artifact, pic of modern 'top grain' cattle leather shoe, & finally, dried alligator hide. The mystery object is definitely consistent with the typical patterning of skin or leather. Assuming it's not a hoax, perhaps it's a dessicated animal part from a lost cattle (I mean, my elbow kind of resembles this mystery object just from dry skin 🤣), let alone after being left out in the Montana elements. I could imagine it being a part of a leg. Or, maybe even an artifact from early humans, like a container. Severe dessication couId conceal stitching & openings. If it is really a rock, seems some sort of petrified animal or dinosaur part is likely. At 1st, I thought it looked like fossilized coral. It does vaguely resemble some of the diverse coral fossils I find in KY, Including many that have been replaced by softer minerals including phosphatic types. But nature does amazing things so fossilized mud wouldn't be too surprising either😉
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 23:32:57 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he wouldnt pull my leg but ya never know eh?
He has had it for a really long time and is just too dang excited about finding out what it is
Him and I have been going back and forth researching stuff and I think it could be an iron concretion or I even thought maybe protaraea fossil or similar (which also bummed him out)
He really is hoping it was Dino (look at hadrosaurus skin)
I hope the guy he emailed can give him more answers or direct him to someone who can
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Post by Pat on Jan 30, 2019 23:38:59 GMT -5
Whatever it is, it’s neat! Seems I’ve seen it — on purses and shoes...: )
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 23:50:58 GMT -5
I think it's cool no matter what it turns out to be Iron concretion Coral Bacarella Hardasorus skin
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rockhoundoz
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by rockhoundoz on Jan 31, 2019 18:43:28 GMT -5
I think it's cool no matter what it turns out to be Iron concretion Coral Bacarella Hardasorus skin Yeah, very cool find. It does look like an exact match for the iron concretion example in your picture. This type of structure, which also occurs in your friends item, is very reminiscent of how iron acts in many instances, including in our blood: We have a wide variety of iron concretions in Kentucky too, but they're typically smooth, botyroidal, or just irregular shapes.
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