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Post by Jugglerguy on Jun 5, 2019 15:51:19 GMT -5
I have decided to make a follow up to my "Name That Rock!" video with answers as suggested by greig . I'm not sure what all the answers are, though. I'm going to post all the pictures below of the rocks and what I think they might be based on guesses from YouTube and the other thread here on RTH. If you could either verify that I'm correct, or give me some more information, I'd really appreciate it. <'))))>< Fish Drummond Island Rocks Sabre52 @rocks2dust El JeffA captbob I'm not sure who else to tag who is really good at identification. 1) Sonoran Dendritic rhyolite 2) moctezuma agate 3) Tiger eye 4) Imperial jasper, willow jasper, or Imperial spiderweb (is that a variation of imperial jasper?) 5) Crazy lace agate? This looks a little different than the crazy lace I just polished a month or so ago. 6) I don't know what this is. Suggestions on Youtube: Jade, green opalite, pet wood, green aventurine 7) Rolling Hills dolomite 8) Wonderstone rhyolite or Mookite9) psilomelane or some sort of obsidian - I don't remember there being a black mess in the tumbler. Is psilomelane translucent? This rock is translucent. I was thinking some sort of obsidian, silver sheen and midnight lace were suggested)I wish I remembered what it looked like before tumbling, but I don't. 10) Red aventurine? 11) Moss agate of some sort. Is there a more specific name? 12) dendritic agate or opal??? Chuck was thinking maybe Dino bone 13) Botswana agate 14) Montana agate 15) Brazillian agate. 16) glass
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Jun 5, 2019 17:03:55 GMT -5
My two cents. #8 is not mook. I like Wonderstone for one. If #9 is translucent I’ll go with midnight lace. #12 could be pet wood. Hard to see the pattern in the black area.
Chuck
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jun 5, 2019 17:58:20 GMT -5
My two cents. #8 is not mook. I like Wonderstone for one. If #9 is translucent I’ll go with midnight lace. #12 could be pet wood. Hard to see the pattern in the black area. Chuck Thanks, Chuck. Here's a close up with better light. I would have never guessed pet wood for this one. I'm not doubting you, I'm pointing out how clueless I am.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 11:23:28 GMT -5
Imperial spiderweb (is that a variation of imperial jasper?) Yes. The Spiderweb is the Imperial that has streamer patterns. Other patterns in Imperial nodules are banded and bull's eye orbicular (recently being called "Royal Imperial" - though that term makes me scratch my head, because it is impossible for something to be both royal and imperial, like inventing a baboon chimpanzee). Is there any translucency to the dark area in #12?
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Post by fernwood on Jun 6, 2019 11:57:14 GMT -5
I was thinking pet wood for 12 as well. The close up helps. Can you get a photo of the end grain?
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jun 6, 2019 12:02:34 GMT -5
Imperial spiderweb (is that a variation of imperial jasper?) Yes. The Spiderweb is the Imperial that has streamer patterns. Other patterns in Imperial nodules are banded and bull's eye orbicular (recently being called "Royal Imperial" - though that term makes me scratch my head, because it is impossible for something to be both royal and imperial, like inventing a baboon chimpanzee). Is there any translucency to the dark area in #12? Yes, there is. Not a lot, but some.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 12:37:56 GMT -5
Yes, there is. Not a lot, but some. If the white and/or darker areas have an amber-orangish glow when backlit, then it is likely opalite. It resembles the moss/dendritic opal from who-knows-where (origins given for similar pieces are all over the place - literally).
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 6, 2019 13:07:33 GMT -5
Yes, there is. Not a lot, but some. If the white and/or darker areas have an amber-orangish glow when backlit, then it is likely opalite. It resembles the moss/dendritic opal from who-knows-where (origins given for similar pieces are all over the place - literally). I thought it was Turkish. I have some.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 6, 2019 13:09:47 GMT -5
BTW Jugglerguy Rob, soupsamwich is doing pretty good!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 13:25:07 GMT -5
I thought it was Turkish. I have some. Yep, that's one of the locales that gets used (also Madagascar, Kazakhstan, Australia, Peru, India, Africa and probably a half-dozen others). I sincerely doubt that near identical material is coming from so many locations, and some are obviously wrong (like the fake "andesine" that suddenly appeared, claiming to be from Tibet, Mongolia and Congo - was none of the above). I've given up trying to nail down the source on an increasing number of newer things - some international dealers seem to slap on just any old place as sources. The wholesalers buy things by the ton, so you'd think they'd pass that info along.
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Post by lookatthat on Jun 6, 2019 13:41:57 GMT -5
Could #6 be aquamarine?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 13:46:12 GMT -5
I wondered that, too. If so, it should be noticeably harder than the other rhyolites, agates and jaspers.
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Post by El JeffA on Jun 6, 2019 23:04:25 GMT -5
Just my opinion, and I am in no way an ID expert. Not near as many years as some on this forum. In my opinion, there are none better than Mel Sabre52 . 1. The gray areas look a little to gray for Sonoran. I would think more green from copper influence. I just cut some slabs that look similar in color from an estate but I do not know the origin. The story told to me; the 80 year old grandson was selling the rough of his grandfather collector hounded from the 1920’s to ‘40’s that has been sitting in piles in the back yard. He is selling property and contacted my seller. Who knows? 2. Moctezuma seems right. Love those Mexican agates! 3. Tiger eye. A given. 4. Although I had stated in an earlier post/thread that it reminded me of Willow Creek jasper, I’ve settled on Imperial jasper. Spiderweb is used more as a descriptor than a trade name, I think. I have seen it used for many different types of rock. The difference between Royal Imperial jasper and Imperial jasper is the orbs found in the Royal and I think was named by Gene Mueller from The Gem Shop despite the literal correctness of the term/phrase. There’s a good video on YouTube and The Gem Shops website about RIJ and the rarity of the orbs found in rocks. A good video from a knowledgeable rock man. 5. Crazy Lace. Many varieties but still lace agate. 6. My vote is aventurine. 7. Agree. Rolling Hills Dolomite. 8. Agree. Wonders stone. I have tumbled softer examples that refused to polish...more like sandstone. 9. Midnight Lace Obsidian 10. Anenturine 11. Moss agate but no clue on location 12. Petrified wood with dendritic opal at bark replacement. Probably Indonesia. I first thought pet wood from the first pic, lower leftstone. Definitely some undercutting at the edge of layer of growth ring. I get this in a lot of pet wood tumbles. Close up of sealed it for me. 13. Botswana. A given 14. Montana. 15. Brazilian. Most likely. Although I recently slabbed some material from Indonesia that has the banding and colors. 16. Agree. Art glass. I’ve tumbled some red, orange and yellow swirled glass that is very close to that example. I posted photos of some shaped as candy corn for Halloween a while back.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jun 6, 2019 23:58:50 GMT -5
4 I have willow creek exactly like that. I also have imperial that is close, but not that color. 5 is most likely Laguna Lace, basically one of the variants of crazy lace. 9 is probably not obsidian if it tumbled with the rest, can't see how it would have polished with the harder rocks bouncing off of it. Possibly a primo version of tuxedo agate?
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jun 7, 2019 4:46:54 GMT -5
I was thinking pet wood for 12 as well. The close up helps. Can you get a photo of the end grain? Sorry, I was really busy last night. No time for pictures,
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jun 7, 2019 4:48:37 GMT -5
BTW Jugglerguy Rob, soupsamwich is doing pretty good! Yep, he impressed me. He also followed directions well. I wondered if he was an RTH member.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jun 7, 2019 4:50:11 GMT -5
I wondered that, too. If so, it should be noticeably harder than the other rhyolites, agates and jaspers. I didn’t have time the scratch it last night, but it didn’t Selma hard at all when tumbling
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 7, 2019 6:29:42 GMT -5
BTW Jugglerguy Rob, soupsamwich is doing pretty good! Yep, he impressed me. He also followed directions well. I wondered if he was an RTH member. Soupsamwich is my alter ego.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jun 9, 2019 20:01:24 GMT -5
Yep, he impressed me. He also followed directions well. I wondered if he was an RTH member. Soupsamwich is my alter ego. I thought you were kidding, but now I'm wondering if you're serious. What does a smily face mean in this situation??? Thanks everyone for your help. I really appreciate it!
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 9, 2019 20:07:34 GMT -5
Soupsamwich is my alter ego. I thought you were kidding, but now I'm wondering if you're serious. What does a smily face mean in this situation??? Thanks everyone for your help. I really appreciate it! I'm smiling because Soup Samwich is me.
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