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Post by jamesp on Nov 18, 2019 12:55:58 GMT -5
Two 4 pound batches running divided. Mixed hardnesses. 6 tablespoons(.4 cups) of sugar in each side. Just enough water to dissolve sugar. Should run for 2 days with out adding water. Beginning the 3rd and last day a bit of water will be added. Note walls of hopper are dry, because the slurry does not splatter being so thick. Running extra pea gravel media for a rip polish. Because the thick slurry does not splatter a shower cap is used only to reduce evaporation.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 20, 2019 10:30:41 GMT -5
Glued together batch really glued together after 36 hours. About time to add some water. But best to let it run till the action nearly stops because the stickier the slurry the faster the abrasive breaks down. But not good to let it freeze up, otherwise bruises may occur at re-wetting to unfreeze because it creates unprotected rocks bouncing against each other. How glued together was this load ? Enough to break down AO 220 in 36 hours and begin a reflection. Estimating 36 more hours left. The next step will be straight to AO 14,000 polish. This is the way to speed up the abrasive break down when tumbling. Stuck together action: 36 hour AO 220 semi polish showing reflection details. Even with the coral and the glass mixed together:
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Post by jamesp on Nov 20, 2019 12:33:35 GMT -5
The way I used to get to this level of polish was in a rotary like so:
7 to 10 days in AO or SiC 220 7 days in AO 500 7 days in AO 1000 About the 5th day of a 10 day run in AO polish.
3 weeks verses 3 days.
The Lot-O takes about 10 days to get to this polish level when running glass starting at AO or SiC 220. And the stock out of the box Vibrasonic destroyed glass. Just saying, this is some easy tumbling.
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Post by Perigrine on Nov 20, 2019 15:14:20 GMT -5
Those are awesome! I really need to get a Lot O.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 20, 2019 17:49:13 GMT -5
Those are awesome! I really need to get a Lot O. Extra credit for those tumbling with a rotary Perigrine
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Post by jamesp on Nov 21, 2019 9:26:38 GMT -5
Glass after 48 hours in AO 220. Water addition delayed to maintain thick slurry. Keep in mind glass is slow to polish. One problem with thick slurry is the belt life is reduced as was the case yesterday starting day 3. I am using o-rings at $22/50 rings instead of $20 factory belts. The o-rings normally last 5 to 6 days. Thicker slurries have always reduced the o-ring life to 3 to 4 days. It simply takes more power to move the rocks when glued together. By the way AO 500 will certainly not polish unless it breaks down to like AO 5000. Lot-O owners know this. They get ripped polishes using AO 500. AO 220 will certainly not polish unless it breaks down. In this case this AO 220 must be close to AO 5000 only after 48 hours. The Vibrasonic will also polish with AO 80 and AO 46. It does not necessarily break coarse AO like 80 and 46, it just rounds it to tiny polish beads. Just saying, it is all about breaking down the abrasive. IMO the sooner the better.
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Post by 1dave on Nov 21, 2019 10:04:22 GMT -5
I hadn't considered belt wear.
I assume there is also a jump in amp usage and an increase in electric cost.
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Post by Perigrine on Nov 21, 2019 11:10:48 GMT -5
Those are awesome! I really need to get a Lot O. Extra credit for those tumbling with a rotary Perigrine The easy way is SO over rated! Iron Face style kung fu for the win!
That is one gorgeous piece of glass!
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Post by jamesp on Nov 21, 2019 11:26:48 GMT -5
I hadn't considered belt wear. I assume there is also a jump in amp usage and an increase in electric cost. Oh yes. Especially sticky clay slurry in a rotary. Like a cement mixer turning gravel with water before adding the Portland. Requires both rotary shafts to be driven to avoid barrel slipping on shafts, raises amps(had to go from a 1/4 hp to a 1/3 hp on big rotary when starting slurry use), more tension on belt. But a big decrease in grind time. Been saying, if you suck or glue the rocks together you way increase the grinding forces, rotary and vibe to break down the abrasives.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 21, 2019 11:31:17 GMT -5
Extra credit for those tumbling with a rotary Perigrine The easy way is SO over rated! Iron Face style kung fu for the win!
That is one gorgeous piece of glass!
I was a late bloomer. Used the rotaries for years before buying a vibe. Maybe they will issue you a rotary medallion for doing the rotary thing. But rock vibes have been around for a long time. They are just plain quick when it comes to finishing abrasives. Thanks. That is an Italian vase that met a hammer. Apparently hand blown with copper glitter mixed in. Purchased cheap and new at Home Goods store. Should be final polished in a couple of days.
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Post by Perigrine on Nov 21, 2019 11:53:57 GMT -5
The easy way is SO over rated! Iron Face style kung fu for the win!
That is one gorgeous piece of glass!
Thanks. That is an Italian vase that met a hammer. Apparently hand blown with copper glitter mixed in. Purchased cheap and new at Home Goods store. Should be final polished in a couple of days. Crafting materials come from odd sources, but why not! What happened, did you see it on the shelf and get an evil look in your eye?
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Post by RocksInNJ on Nov 21, 2019 12:40:03 GMT -5
Thanks. That is an Italian vase that met a hammer. Apparently hand blown with copper glitter mixed in. Purchased cheap and new at Home Goods store. Should be final polished in a couple of days. Crafting materials come from odd sources, but why not! What happened, did you see it on the shelf and get an evil look in your eye? Well that answered my question. I’ve been wondering where people get all this crazy and beautiful looking glass. I’m going to have to start going down more aisles at the thrift store now, looking for crap to buy and break lmao. Would ceramic vases and figurines be able to be broken and used in a rotary or vibe? Man what a great stress relief that would be. Run around busting everything up and letting loose and then kick back and relax and enjoy the beauty of the finished product. Heck I could even open up a stress relief business and charge people to come in , suit up and throw glass bottles and stuff up against a brick wall or smash everything in sight with hammers and what not. So many different ways things could be broken. Then scoop it all up at the end of the day and throw it in the tumbler and or vibe.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 23, 2019 0:02:50 GMT -5
Crafting materials come from odd sources, but why not! What happened, did you see it on the shelf and get an evil look in your eye? Well that answered my question. I’ve been wondering where people get all this crazy and beautiful looking glass. I’m going to have to start going down more aisles at the thrift store now, looking for crap to buy and break lmao. Would ceramic vases and figurines be able to be broken and used in a rotary or vibe? Man what a great stress relief that would be. Run around busting everything up and letting loose and then kick back and relax and enjoy the beauty of the finished product. Heck I could even open up a stress relief business and charge people to come in , suit up and throw glass bottles and stuff up against a brick wall or smash everything in sight with hammers and what not. So many different ways things could be broken. Then scoop it all up at the end of the day and throw it in the tumbler and or vibe. Did you mention broken glass rocksinnj ? www.flickr.com/photos/67205364@N06/albums/72157692145023824From thrift stores. All broken and tumbled.
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Post by RocksInNJ on Nov 23, 2019 1:26:07 GMT -5
Well that answered my question. I’ve been wondering where people get all this crazy and beautiful looking glass. I’m going to have to start going down more aisles at the thrift store now, looking for crap to buy and break lmao. Would ceramic vases and figurines be able to be broken and used in a rotary or vibe? Man what a great stress relief that would be. Run around busting everything up and letting loose and then kick back and relax and enjoy the beauty of the finished product. Heck I could even open up a stress relief business and charge people to come in , suit up and throw glass bottles and stuff up against a brick wall or smash everything in sight with hammers and what not. So many different ways things could be broken. Then scoop it all up at the end of the day and throw it in the tumbler and or vibe. Did you mention broken glass rocksinnj ? www.flickr.com/photos/67205364@N06/albums/72157692145023824From thrift stores. All broken and tumbled. Hahaha you beat me to it. Wow look at all that color. Yea I surely need to spend a little extra time in the thrift stores now. I was under the impression that glass turned Smoky when tumbled. I know you used a vibe for your glass, but does it make a difference if you used a tumbler or is it just a certain type of glass that will get the smoky effect? Edit - Omg I just clicked on that link. Wow you’ve been busy. I know who to come to when I’m ready to start tumbling some glass. I may not be able to find any decent rocks to tumble here in New Jersey, but there’s surely a ton of thrift stores. This is great. Plus when my neighbors are being stupid and loud with their music and motorcycles, I could go out to the property line and start smashing some bottles in retaliation lmao. };’)
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Post by jamesp on Nov 23, 2019 7:19:10 GMT -5
Hahaha you beat me to it. Wow look at all that color. Yea I surely need to spend a little extra time in the thrift stores now. I was under the impression that glass turned Smoky when tumbled. I know you used a vibe for your glass, but does it make a difference if you used a tumbler or is it just a certain type of glass that will get the smoky effect? Edit - Omg I just clicked on that link. Wow you’ve been busy. I know who to come to when I’m ready to start tumbling some glass. I may not be able to find any decent rocks to tumble here in New Jersey, but there’s surely a ton of thrift stores. This is great. Plus when my neighbors are being stupid and loud with their music and motorcycles, I could go out to the property line and start smashing some bottles in retaliation lmao. };’) I stayed in trouble finding and breaking expensive hand blown vases like Murano out of Italy. The thrift stores are full of them here for 5 to 15 dollars. Apparently not in style anymore. Unfortunately it can be tricky to tumble polish. Most glass will tumble polish regardless of it's composition. Not sure about the smoky effect. Could be certain optical properties. Sounds like you need to make some noise. Breaking them up is east enough. If the neighbors are rude consider a 44 mag over the property line for breaking glass !! I suppose law enforcement may have a problem with that method he he.
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