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Post by jamesp on Mar 2, 2024 1:52:16 GMT -5
jamesp, thanks for your explanation. I wasn't going to make you read a long quote, so here I am...again. Interesting use of "fell out" in comparison to how it was used here. "Done fell out," or "fell out," was used in the medical setting to describe that someone had fainted or passed out. It was used so much here in parts of Los Angeles (mainly black neighborhoods), that it became a common term for us first responders. It is interesting to find the origin of such language forms. I remember working with Black folks at moving companies in highschool during summers. It was a learning experience in language forms for sure. They had a fun demeanor full of character and knew how to always have a good time.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2024 14:49:36 GMT -5
Thanks for posting these again. They are just too beautiful. Lots of eye candy. Thanks Tela. Glass is a fun tumble because it shapes quickly in the tumbler(unlike coral or Montana agate that is so hard).
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2024 14:46:31 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2024 14:38:12 GMT -5
Most are from hand blown vases and the local glass blower's shards. Plier type glass nippers were used to chip perimeter shape. Rotary shaped and finished in a modified vibe. Thick sugar 'syrup' used in vibe steps. Thanks for looking. That's great looking stuff James. Is that leftover glass when you first started working on it, or are you still going out and searching for it? I seem to recall you've gone through a fair amount of it making slabs and stuff like in this thread. What do you do with it, other than supplying knappers with some slabs? I used to FALL OUT laughing until Dad gave me a you-will-pay look. Well, now you have me cracking up by seeing that term being used. Is that actually a southern colloquialism? The reason I ask is that it was constantly used in the predominantly black South Los Angeles, where there were significant numbers of folks whose families relocated to Los Angeles (among other places) during the great migration following WWII. It's use was so prevalent, I've picked it up and still use it every now and then. If you didn't know I worked many FD assignments down there, so I had a lot of time to be exposed to the term, especially while I was working as a paramedic there. "Done fell out" or "fell out" what what we heard from the citizens. On the Department, we just shortened it to "DFO'd" to describe when it happened to someone. Back to your regularly scheduled programming. Most of that glass is from vases and broken scraps from the glass blowers Dave. The glass blower in Atlanta let me haul off like a ton of scrap and is sitting on the back 40 so to speak. No need to look for more stock. The patterns are their patterns, most are beyond my skill ability and can only be created by the blowing process which makes them unique compared to what the average basement glass artist can do. I can't say that 'tacky' is southern but do hear the term often from older southern country folks(ladies(elderly southern magnolias ) mostly). Almost always in an amusing derogatory manner. 'fell off' is another old term older southern folks use, this mean that you lost weight. There is one single reference to 'fell out' in the Bible having to do with Peter's prison shackles falling off. 'fell out'/'done fell out' may be a derivative usually referring to someone losing something, a common expression in the south. It gets the job done lol ! Maybe in the paramedic field it referred to loosing life or limb. Which leads to the source of many Black terms that are also derived from their dependence on the Bible during their difficult slavery years, i.e., look at Bible based lyrics of early Black jazz/blue musicians, many of these lyrics copied/used in rock n roll music perhaps because the average rock n roller never had seen hard times like these poor black musicians. All interesting the origins of American slang/sayings.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2024 13:11:46 GMT -5
vegasjames , what if I lied and said I found these as tektites around the Carolina Bays You have to know those bays are ice impacts Then would have to say that you were visiting another planet also with a place called Carolina Bays. Lol, maybe one day the great minds will figure it out James. They are sitting there trying to tell us something.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 29, 2024 7:51:26 GMT -5
Lazy lazy lazy. The tumbler did all the shaping Patty. Without knowing the temperature 'recipe' for all these different types of glass I could not 'melt' these into blobs before tumbling. If heat recipe is known you simply melt them into cab shapes and reduce tumble time greatly. If not known they may crack and be unstable. Odd thing about glass, if you put broken chunks (say 3/4" chunks like road gravel on the shelf)they melt to a 1/4" thick cab everytime. It is a characteristic of glass to melt to 1/4" thick at it's specified melting temp. Interesting Jim.
Obviously, your tumbling experience pays off ! When you have melted them, does the glass gloss over or do you still have to vibe it for polish ?
Sounds like you're still having to tumble. My brain would have guessed they would gloss, like enamel does.
Patty
If the heat schedule is known and the glass is good fusing glass it will cool with a high polish with no tumbling. In my case I have to tumble most of what is melted. The tumbling allows a whole new angle to glass fusing small stuff like this.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 29, 2024 0:42:30 GMT -5
vegasjames, what if I lied and said I found these as tektites around the Carolina Bays You have to know those bays are ice impacts
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Post by jamesp on Feb 29, 2024 0:37:18 GMT -5
This material is definitely nice! Perhaps the southern colloquial term "tacky" could be used as a fair adjective Victor. As a kid I remember when a flashy colorfully dressed attractive lady would walk by and turn Dad's head Mom(from small town Florida) would in a jealous reply say "she's so tacky" lol. I used to fall out laughing until Dad gave me a you-will-pay look.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 29, 2024 0:29:40 GMT -5
Wowzers, those came out great!!! They are clear as can be and not frosted at all Great job Bill Long time no see, hope all is well with you Bill. Thick sugar slurry and a very powerful vibe kept the frost away ! Odd, the vibe tub is homemade from steel, no rubber/plastic. The glass vibes against hard steel. Testimony to protective ability of thicker slurry. Makes one wonder if a very powerful vibe with very thick slurry is the key to tumble polishing softies like calcite and fluorite. Actually that is the answer I was told, Chinese made industrial vibes are powerful and are used to vibe soft rocks in very thick protective slurry. I was told this by an owner of a big tumbling operation in Madagascar.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 29, 2024 0:18:00 GMT -5
Wow they are so nice looking! The left three pieces from this picture look like a theme of flower, butterflies and birds. Another way to make these pebblesky is by piling glass blower scraps into a brick mold and melting a 6"x2"x2" brick like this and then sawing it into 1/4" slabs for cabs/tumbles. This one needed higher temps, it did not quite liquify all the way. (early experiment stage brick)
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Post by jamesp on Feb 29, 2024 0:08:29 GMT -5
Wow... those are colorful. Thanks Thomas. Glass does have the ability to contain color. Most obsidian is colored with browns probably due to common iron in the volcano. Colors come from various metals melted into the glass. Gold/silver/copper/cadmium/antimony/cobalt/etc.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 29, 2024 0:03:12 GMT -5
Those are nice Jim ! So many colors & patterns. Patty Lazy lazy lazy. The tumbler did all the shaping Patty. Without knowing the temperature 'recipe' for all these different types of glass I could not 'melt' these into blobs before tumbling. If heat recipe is known you simply melt them into cab shapes and reduce tumble time greatly. If not known they may crack and be unstable. Odd thing about glass, if you put broken chunks (say 3/4" chunks like road gravel on the shelf)they melt to a 1/4" thick cab everytime. It is a characteristic of glass to melt to 1/4" thick at it's specified melting temp. These 6 tumbles were like 6 piles of 6 little chunks each of glass blower scraps piled together so they would melt into each other. They pretty much looked just like they are before tumbled and after tumbled. Talk about easy cabs...
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2024 16:41:52 GMT -5
Thanks for that thought, Jim, jamesp. I think I've only done 1 Mahagonny obsidian cab, a while back. I'll have to look through my slab stash & see what I got. Patty Anyone that can carry 2 5 gallon buckets for a mile and have a routine conversation at the same time can do most anything.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2024 9:44:20 GMT -5
Patty if you can cab glass you can do obsidian cabs. They are one in the same. I would think they require different processing than harder stones.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 24, 2024 4:13:36 GMT -5
Sweet cabs liveoak Patty. You sure have the polish figured out. Never knew but should have figured you had the cab skills mastered. I should consider copyrights on the name ! I have a deactivated ETSY site named 'Gem Glass' but selling jewelry on ETSY can be a challenge and failed to have any luck. Those darn bubbles come with the brick casting process not to mention the stock China glass has bubbles in it to begin with. The arrowhead guys complain about the bubbles too. American made fusing glass is so much more user friendly and bubbles rarely get caught in it. Maybe the sparkle glass had less bubbles, it was fused as plates instead of bricks. Easier to lose the bubbles if casting cab size morsels but they don't have the character of the brick process.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 19, 2024 1:44:42 GMT -5
Gabriel KILLED that! Wowzer!! Knapping points has become popular Jason. Fluting points is top of the game. Flutes assist hafting. I believe spearheads were also fluted to serve as a blood groove as your military bayonet had. With jig: Native man's method: Who does this ?:
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Post by jamesp on Feb 18, 2024 2:25:15 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Feb 11, 2024 9:16:48 GMT -5
It must be so gratifying to you to see your art glass turned into... art. It is the pinnacle of fusing it Tela. The fellow above sent me a couple of smaller arrowheads in the deal.
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