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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 25, 2022 9:28:20 GMT -5
miket , I see grinding scratches on the stone. The problem, I think, is it's simply not prepared properly for the polish stage. It takes a bit of practice and patience to learn the sometimes rather tedious process of completely eliminating all the scratches from the previous sanding (or grinding) stage. I don't know the sequence of wheels you're using but it you have a 240 or 280 soft wheel it's often the key to getting rid of those sneaky grinding scratches that are often obscured by water on the cab or a superficial sanding job on finer wheels. No amount of polishing will yield a top finish on a surface that's not ready for that stage. Advice: invest in a 10-power loupe to inspect for scratches between stages on a DRY stone. An excellent brand at a reasonable price is the Belomo 10X loupe, Keep at it! You'll get there. Ok, thanks for the advice! I'll spend some more time on this one and see if I can get it a little better... 🙂 gemfeller is correct. You have to have all the scratches out before advancing to the next step. Holding the dry stone under the rim of your lamp at an angle that lets you look across the stone, helps to see the little buggers. Make sure you're not looking at the pretty patterns in the stone, but across the stone to be able to see them. Use an Optivisor if you have one or like gemfeller said, a 10x loupe. You can also color your cab with a soft pencil or a marker (on hard stones). As you're sanding on the stone, all the non-scratch areas will of course be sanded off immediately and you will see where the scratches remain because they'll have pencil or marker still in them. Don't move on until they are ALL gone. Sometimes you have to spend a a lot of time on the 600 to get all the little scratches out.
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Post by miket on Sept 25, 2022 11:54:25 GMT -5
Ok, thanks for the advice! I'll spend some more time on this one and see if I can get it a little better... 🙂 gemfeller is correct. You have to have all the scratches out before advancing to the next step. Holding the dry stone under the rim of your lamp at an angle that lets you look across the stone, helps to see the little buggers. Make sure you're not looking at the pretty patterns in the stone, but across the stone to be able to see them. Use an Optivisor if you have one or like gemfeller said, a 10x loupe. You can also color your cab with a soft pencil or a marker (on hard stones). As you're sanding on the stone, all the non-scratch areas will of course be sanded off immediately and you will see where the scratches remain because they'll have pencil or marker still in them. Don't move on until they are ALL gone. Sometimes you have to spend a a lot of time on the 600 to get all the little scratches out. Nice tips, thanks! One question, hopefully not a stupid one...does diamond paste leave a film?
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 25, 2022 12:05:21 GMT -5
gemfeller is correct. You have to have all the scratches out before advancing to the next step. Holding the dry stone under the rim of your lamp at an angle that lets you look across the stone, helps to see the little buggers. Make sure you're not looking at the pretty patterns in the stone, but across the stone to be able to see them. Use an Optivisor if you have one or like gemfeller said, a 10x loupe. You can also color your cab with a soft pencil or a marker (on hard stones). As you're sanding on the stone, all the non-scratch areas will of course be sanded off immediately and you will see where the scratches remain because they'll have pencil or marker still in them. Don't move on until they are ALL gone. Sometimes you have to spend a a lot of time on the 600 to get all the little scratches out. Nice tips, thanks! One question, hopefully not a stupid one...does diamond paste leave a film? It can. Clean the stone after you're done using it with denatured alcohol or some Dawn and water to get it off.
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Post by As I in does tries! on Sept 25, 2022 15:21:25 GMT -5
"One question, hopefully not a stupid one...does diamond paste leave a film?"
Greetings often as commercial diamond pastes are mostly oil based.
I can feel scratches while I am cabbing no matter if the stone is wet or dry.
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Post by miket on Sept 25, 2022 16:34:54 GMT -5
Nice tips, thanks! One question, hopefully not a stupid one...does diamond paste leave a film? It can. Clean the stone after you're done using it with denatured alcohol or some Dawn and water to get it off. Thanks, I thought I could feel it on there... Lots to learn! 😁
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 25, 2022 17:06:08 GMT -5
Nice tips, thanks! One question, hopefully not a stupid one...does diamond paste leave a film? It can. Clean the stone after you're done using it with denatured alcohol or some Dawn and water to get it off. Mike there's a lot of times where I'll take the cab and use Dawn with a toothbrush on it after I've buffed it with the paste...like Robin said here.
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Post by miket on Sept 25, 2022 17:35:34 GMT -5
It can. Clean the stone after you're done using it with denatured alcohol or some Dawn and water to get it off. Mike there's a lot of times where I'll take the cab and use Dawn with a toothbrush on it after I've buffed it with the paste...like Robin said here. Thanks Jason. I'm assuming that would also have an effect on the shine...
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 25, 2022 18:25:39 GMT -5
Mike there's a lot of times where I'll take the cab and use Dawn with a toothbrush on it after I've buffed it with the paste...like Robin said here. Thanks Jason. I'm assuming that would also have an effect on the shine... I don't know that it would/does have any effect on the shine other than removing any residue or fingerprints. I always wash my cabs and hands with Dawn just before I take pictures...which doesn't help with dust in the pics...but it does with fingerprints! LOL (I do the same with my wraps...)
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 25, 2022 18:34:42 GMT -5
Mike there's a lot of times where I'll take the cab and use Dawn with a toothbrush on it after I've buffed it with the paste...like Robin said here. Thanks Jason. I'm assuming that would also have an effect on the shine... It possibly could. More importantly, the base they put the diamond in will attract dust and dirt that will stick to the cab if you don't wash it off.
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Post by miket on Sept 27, 2022 21:37:23 GMT -5
Some success...I suppose. A little better shine but I'm still considering throwing these all in the vibe for a run through the polish stage. Thanks for looking. 🙂
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 28, 2022 9:57:41 GMT -5
miket nice! Love the Stone Canyon (?). There is absolutely no reason not to put them in the vibe. If I had a vibe, I'd do it for sure.
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Post by miket on Sept 28, 2022 14:32:33 GMT -5
miket nice! Love the Stone Canyon (?). There is absolutely no reason not to put them in the vibe. If I had a vibe, I'd do it for sure. Thanks Robin! I might just do that then.
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 28, 2022 17:41:53 GMT -5
Some success...I suppose. A little better shine but I'm still considering throwing these all in the vibe for a run through the polish stage. Thanks for looking. 🙂 So...that second one looks like Stone Canyon. I've worked Stone Canyon that absolutely REFUSED to take a polish. If you do put that one in the vibe, I'll be curious to see if it does polish or not. I did the same thing (a long time ago) with some Stone Canyon and it still wasn't that "mirror" polish we're all looking for.
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Post by liveoak on Sept 29, 2022 6:26:28 GMT -5
That first cab looks great miket. I don't see any scratches and the polish looks good. Nice one, Patty
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Post by miket on Sept 29, 2022 14:16:59 GMT -5
That first cab looks great miket . I don't see any scratches and the polish looks good. Nice one, Patty Thanks Patty! Honestly, though, I think the shine could be better...
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Post by liveoak on Sept 29, 2022 15:28:27 GMT -5
Well I have a motto here : That a thing you make, no matter what it is, has to please YOU first & foremost, all else is gravy.
Patty
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 29, 2022 19:34:39 GMT -5
Well I have a motto here : That a thing you make, no matter what it is, has to please YOU first & foremost, all else is gravy.
Patty
Excellent motto, Patty!
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