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Post by parfive on Jul 17, 2023 20:45:05 GMT -5
allforwhat?hobby.com . . . Not quite what Andy had in mind.
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dillonf
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Post by dillonf on Jul 17, 2023 20:50:47 GMT -5
Tumbling? All for . . . the experience, the kindness, the exercise in patience, the surprise, the disappointment, the broken machines, the fixed machines, the beautiful stones, the fugly stones, trying something new, mastering something old, and for - as in life - seeing potential and taking a chance.
Tumbling is all about the journey the destination is just a bonus. When it becomes work I'll stop playing. But that is just me.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 17, 2023 20:52:21 GMT -5
allforwhat?hobby.com . . . Not quite what Andy had in mind. Yeah, I detect a little bias.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 17, 2023 20:54:08 GMT -5
Tumbling? All for . . . the experience, the kindness, the exercise in patience, the surprise, the disappointment, the broken machines, the fixed machines, the beautiful stones, the fugly stones, trying something new, mastering something old, and for - as in life - seeing potential and taking a chance. Tumbling is all about the journey the destination is just a bonus. When it becomes work I'll stop playing. But that is just me. Well done esp this "Tumbling is all about the journey the destination is just a bonus." Best way to put it, I think. Beautiful.
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Post by stardiamond on Jul 17, 2023 21:24:22 GMT -5
Tumbling?Take a beautiful rock, hit it with a hammer, shatter the beauty, toss it into a tumbler, like tumbling down a stream, no control over the outcome. whatever happens - happens. Give the results to someone, and they lose it. all for what? Cabbing?Take a beautiful rock. Which way to slab it will bring out the best results? Finally the slabs are cut without badly grooving them. Look at all the wonderful patterns. Can't cab this, too beautiful the way it is! Polish the slab. Oh, here is a pattern that would look good in a - Bolo, bracelet, pendant, ring, earring - That is worth the effort to make a perfect cab! Once I have laid out a design on a slab I'm not all that interested unless something goes wrong and then I'm in problem solving mode. If I took a preform and tossed it in a tumbler I'd be fairly happy with the results because the end result will have a similar appearance to something I ground. I've never tumbled and am not interested in learning because I have a lot of equipment to make cabs. I have bought tumbled pieces and what I see that is inferior to grinding is lack of control; irregular edges and pitting.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 18, 2023 9:32:07 GMT -5
Out of a billion people, there are only a billion kinds, but . . .
How many are just trying to survive? No time for anything else.
How many have wealthy parents and their lives are spent in partying?
How many fear and MUST BE in control?
I think as children we all learned to love beautiful things, art, music, dance, rocks.
Which love did we keep?
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Post by stardiamond on Jul 18, 2023 12:53:48 GMT -5
Out of a billion people, there are only a billion kinds, but . . . How many are just trying to survive? No time for anything else. How many have wealthy parents and their lives are spent in partying? How many fear and MUST BE in control? I think as children we all learned to love beautiful things, art, music, dance, rocks. Which love did we keep? I enjoy the arts. My local rocks are adobe clay and sandstone. My experience as a youngster with rocks was skipping them in water and digging for gypsum crystals.
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victor1941
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Post by victor1941 on Jul 18, 2023 15:58:05 GMT -5
Pizzano- I think you said exactly what I do and like. I cut the shape and then use the vibe process to finish the shape. Yes, it takes time but I enjoy the process and suspense to see what I get. This is sorta like a new glaze mix on to be fired pottery. You don't know what you are going to see until you open a cooled kiln and examine the results.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jul 23, 2023 20:46:40 GMT -5
Tumbling? All for . . . the experience, the kindness, the exercise in patience, the surprise, the disappointment, the broken machines, the fixed machines, the beautiful stones, the fugly stones, trying something new, mastering something old, and for - as in life - seeing potential and taking a chance. Tumbling is all about the journey the destination is just a bonus. When it becomes work I'll stop playing. But that is just me. I was kind of thinking about this again today, now that I've got things rolling again. It's like having that once a week conversation with old friends or family. How you doin, oh still having that issue, just take it easy for a while, or you look great, things seem like they are going well, hope things work out for you moving forward.
Yea, it's not exactly like that, but it's not far off either...old friends, new acquaintances, some you can keep around forever, someone you just see and old picture of and wonder, what the hell happened to that guy, wonder where he went in life.
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rocknewb101
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Post by rocknewb101 on Jul 24, 2023 9:37:54 GMT -5
I love this post! Glad it was revived! I definitely started as a tumbler - had no idea what I was getting into until we dove in. Then the wait. and more wait. and even more wait. Only to have unsatisfactory results which lead to more waiting! Meanwhile I was looking for ways to keep 'in the rocks', if you will. so I got a dremel - which was WAY more work than I ever thought it would be - talk about more waiting lol...then I was blessed with a slant cabber this past Christmas and never looked back. I'm still learning, and take more rocks back to smooth/grind stage then I ever feel I should lol...AND I'm not into wire wrapping (yet) so not sure what I'll eventually do with these, other than add them to my shelf . Hubby tells me we'll work a way to get me a big girls cabber (lol, no offense meant) and I'm hopeful that will cut down on over-scratching, and flat spots....anyways - I still love tumbling and will continue to do so, but also love cabbing and it's a great way to fill in the waiting.
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Post by 1dave on Jul 24, 2023 10:55:13 GMT -5
I love this post! Glad it was revived! I definitely started as a tumbler - had no idea what I was getting into until we dove in. Then the wait. and more wait. and even more wait. Only to have unsatisfactory results which lead to more waiting! Meanwhile I was looking for ways to keep 'in the rocks', if you will. so I got a dremel - which was WAY more work than I ever thought it would be - talk about more waiting lol...then I was blessed with a slant cabber this past Christmas and never looked back. I'm still learning, and take more rocks back to smooth/grind stage then I ever feel I should lol...AND I'm not into wire wrapping (yet) so not sure what I'll eventually do with these, other than add them to my shelf . Hubby tells me we'll work a way to get me a big girls cabber (lol, no offense meant) and I'm hopeful that will cut down on over-scratching, and flat spots....anyways - I still love tumbling and will continue to do so, but also love cabbing and it's a great way to fill in the waiting. Hurry up and wait. That is what life is all about. No matter how we plan, there will be waiting. How to make meaningful use of that wait time? There is where we get the spice of life!
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rocknewb101
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Post by rocknewb101 on Jul 24, 2023 12:02:51 GMT -5
I love this post! Glad it was revived! I definitely started as a tumbler - had no idea what I was getting into until we dove in. Then the wait. and more wait. and even more wait. Only to have unsatisfactory results which lead to more waiting! Meanwhile I was looking for ways to keep 'in the rocks', if you will. so I got a dremel - which was WAY more work than I ever thought it would be - talk about more waiting lol...then I was blessed with a slant cabber this past Christmas and never looked back. I'm still learning, and take more rocks back to smooth/grind stage then I ever feel I should lol...AND I'm not into wire wrapping (yet) so not sure what I'll eventually do with these, other than add them to my shelf . Hubby tells me we'll work a way to get me a big girls cabber (lol, no offense meant) and I'm hopeful that will cut down on over-scratching, and flat spots....anyways - I still love tumbling and will continue to do so, but also love cabbing and it's a great way to fill in the waiting. Hurry up and wait. That is what life is all about. No matter how we plan, there will be waiting. How to make meaningful use of that wait time? There is where we get the spice of life! ha! Very true - and I say all the time that I don't want to rush my life away, but dang, waiting sucks lol...I usually say this on Monday when I'm waiting for Friday.. Best to learn to sit back and enjoy life, even the down moments because it really is fleeting.
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Post by Mel on Jul 24, 2023 15:33:21 GMT -5
This is kind of shower thought tonight, but something I've pondered on and off in the past.
What are the defining characteristics that separate these two similar hobbies? <SNIP> I think rollers just rock what they can, and cabbers are connoisseurs of a sort. <SNIP>
I love ya'lls work, but it doesn't quite seem to fit my personality, being a tumbler that is. One I'm amazing at because the margin for error is low & a great jumping off point. The other I keep attempting because I'm too stubborn to quit! Cabbing is taking something rough and knowing there's something special just waiting to be shown off, then putting in the time & effort to get there and showing people what you saw all along. Rock tumbling is taking rough, giving it care & attention and in the end loving it for what it is because it belongs to you and it just is what it is. Rock tumbling is done for the sheer thrill of the hunt, the mystery and wonderment at what you might end up with. Cabbing is the shortcut where you can create the beauty others can't see.
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Post by Mel on Jul 24, 2023 16:09:27 GMT -5
Family tells me I should make a dozen more and sell them, but they don't understand what went into making it. Taking something you love doing for personal enjoyment and turning it into something you do for money is the quickest way to suck joy out of it. Pressure to create is poison. People are so used to buying things off the shelf from China at pennies on the dollar. They seriously think they're showing you a way to get rich doing something you love, yet most have never really given a serious thought to the cost, skill, attention, time etc. that goes into doing anything artistic. Or even thought about the time & failure (s) it took for you get that good in the first place. I mean I have probably spent upwards of $10K on my lapidary hobby if you account for material, tools, electricity, traveling to buy equipment etc. I'm not even qualified to call myself an artisan, my work is just me experimenting and failing. A LOT. Yet I'm keeping at it for the love of the game. Imagine what someone who is a true artist has spent in time/money alone.... I used to make soap & do quilting and I got the same feedback. My mom used to do ceramics, including some fairly large garden statues, and people would say "You really should charge for your time!" at which point she'd say that the piece they just bought would've cost 5x as much as they already paid. I know my absolute favorite people at the craft fair are the little kids. They're absolutely infatuated and excited to touch, hold, ask questions about these polished rocks. Funny how the sign says 12 for $5, but they leave with 15 or 20, and sometimes even the $5 bill. Keats said that "a thing of beauty is a joy forever", and being part of that beauty is why I keep at it.
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