My Workshop

[jasoninsd]

Good looking setup Chris!

That cabbing machine won't stay clean for long! LOL

[chris1956]

Looks good.   Is that a heater hanging from the ceiling?   I have my set up in the basement at the end by a garage door and no heat vents in the area so I have been thinking about adding something for the winter.

I am not the greatest plumber (understatement) but couldn't you get a ball or pinch valve to attach to the water line?   They arn't too expensive for that size.  

[stardiamond]

Where's your slab saw? My workspace is outside under the roof. Dirt floor, oil and scraps. Rather disgusting, but I don't have to look at it unless I am doing work.

[iamchris]

Dec 28, 2023 8:33:57 GMT -5 jasoninsd said:

Good looking setup Chris!

That cabbing machine won't stay clean for long! LOL

Thank you! I'm trying to stay in the habit of wiping down the machine after each cabbing session. We'll see how far that takes me, haha.

Dec 28, 2023 11:13:55 GMT -5 chris1956 said:

Looks good.   Is that a heater hanging from the ceiling?   I have my set up in the basement at the end by a garage door and no heat vents in the area so I have been thinking about adding something for the winter.

I am not the greatest plumber (understatement) but couldn't you get a ball or pinch valve to attach to the water line?   They arn't too expensive for that size.  

Thank you! No, that's an air filter. I was standing right in front of my furnace, which puts out a good amount of heat into the room, so I don't really have a need for auxiliary heat. This is the filter I got on a Black Friday deal.

For the plumbing [a href="[blocked Amazon short link]41GHl0B"]this

[/a] is the Sharkbite tee I have, which has a ball valve. I would have expected a bit more fine control when the valve is almost completely closed, but it still provides too much flow. Thank you for the search term for "pinch valve" - I'll have to give that a shot! Much appreciated.
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Dec 28, 2023 14:49:53 GMT -5 stardiamond said:

Where's your slab saw? My workspace is outside under the roof. Dirt floor, oil and scraps. Rather disgusting, but I don't have to look at it unless I am doing work.

The slab saw lives out in the garage, which is on the other side of the wall that hosts the shoe rack. Sadly it hasn't been used in the last month due to me poorly clamping a rock, which damaged the blade. I've got its replacement ready to go, but am awaiting more cutting oil from Highland Park. I am very excited to get going on the material for the Azul board game tiles that vegasjames graciously sent my way, but sadly my hands are tied at the moment.

[liveoak]

Well, Chris, I'm really glad we all succeeded in guiding you on the right path

Looks great !

What a great way to start the new year, congratulations !

Patty

[southernlakehuronguy]

I also have to find a way to reduce the flow for the water supply. Gotta find a tiny clamp or something, as the shutoff valve doesn't provide very fine control. The 6mm supply line is quite rigid though, so I'm not sure how well that'll work. Would love some suggestions here if anyone has a better idea!

You could use this on your 1/4" water line for better control...https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1-4-in-Push-to-Connect-x-1-4-in-Push-to-Connect-dia-Ball-Valve-Push-Fitting/1000192681

[chris1956]

In reading through my post again I see that I mispoke about the pinch valve.  Wasn't what I was thinking about although it might work too depending on quality and type you get.   I actually had in mind a needle valve.   If you look into needle valves make sure you get one that is good for throttling flow, not just shutoff.  

[Rockoonz]

southernlakehuronguy chris1956
If you are running full pressure city water add a RV pressure reducer to your supply line, and if it still isn't enough a needle valve instead of ball or gate valve has better control, I got a bunch of them from refrigerator water line kits when a hardware store closed years ago.

[iamchris]

Dec 29, 2023 8:20:04 GMT -5 southernlakehuronguy said:

I also have to find a way to reduce the flow for the water supply. Gotta find a tiny clamp or something, as the shutoff valve doesn't provide very fine control. The 6mm supply line is quite rigid though, so I'm not sure how well that'll work. Would love some suggestions here if anyone has a better idea!

You could use this on your 1/4" water line for better control...https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1-4-in-Push-to-Connect-x-1-4-in-Push-to-Connect-dia-Ball-Valve-Push-Fitting/1000192681

This did the trick! Much finer control at low levels. I can now use the needle valves on the CB8 to get a slow drip if need be. Thank you, southernlakehuronguy!

[jasoninsd]

iamchris - I don't know why your drainage issue has crept into my head numerous times over the last couple days...but it has! LOL

I keep wondering if setting up a five-gallon bucket like a septic tank would give you the drainage and only require periodic cleanout of the sediment. I keep picturing an inlet set at a slightly higher level than the outlet. Runoff from the cabbing machine would flow into the bucket...sediment would settle to the bottom...and as the "water" level reached the outlet port, it would be relatively sediment free.

*At least that's what I'm picturing...I'm not 100% sure it would actually work like that though! LOL

[Rockoonz]

Dec 31, 2023 0:46:52 GMT -5 jasoninsd said:

iamchris - I don't know why your drainage issue has crept into my head numerous times over the last couple days...but it has! LOL

I keep wondering if setting up a five-gallon bucket like a septic tank would give you the drainage and only require periodic cleanout of the sediment. I keep picturing an inlet set at a slightly higher level than the outlet. Runoff from the cabbing machine would flow into the bucket...sediment would settle to the bottom...and as the "water" level reached the outlet port, it would be relatively sediment free.

*At least that's what I'm picturing...I'm not 100% sure it would actually work like that though! LOL

Baffle tanks work pretty good, and can be as simple as a bucket in a bucket. I like 3 stages, that's what I used to have with open fresh water cooling towers that were recirculating like 50gpm on large rubber mills.

[iamchris]

Dec 31, 2023 0:46:52 GMT -5 jasoninsd said:

iamchris - I don't know why your drainage issue has crept into my head numerous times over the last couple days...but it has! LOL

I keep wondering if setting up a five-gallon bucket like a septic tank would give you the drainage and only require periodic cleanout of the sediment. I keep picturing an inlet set at a slightly higher level than the outlet. Runoff from the cabbing machine would flow into the bucket...sediment would settle to the bottom...and as the "water" level reached the outlet port, it would be relatively sediment free.

*At least that's what I'm picturing...I'm not 100% sure it would actually work like that though! LOL

jasoninsd that's what I've got going on in the back left corner of the room! I'm using those for my rock tumbler waste water, but they're too high for the cabber to drain into. I have two buckets staggered to let more particulates settle out. I've tried using a pool flocculant to see if that helps, but the water is still very cloudy, even after using a large dose. Oh well.

So instead, I'm putting a 2 gallon bucket in the sump where the PEX line is draining to, and then dumping that into my rock tumbler baffle buckets. I'm not yet ready to commit to cutting the PEX line because of its price, haha.

The desk is a sit-stand desk. I thought it would be nice to have the option to do either while cabbing, and to set the trim saw to the perfect height. If it was always going to be set to be taller, I could probably rearrange things to have it drain directly into the top bucket. But I'm a bit limited with the layout due to where the sump discharge pipes run, and it's a cheaper desk that's a bit wobbly, even when low. The CB8's thicker gauge steel was a large selling point to me, but holy crap is it heavy!

Thanks for thinking of me and helping ideate!

[iamchris]

I suppose it's also a benefit to leave the discharge as long as it is and continue to use a small bucket in the sump. That way if I don't hear it overflowing (I use noise canceling headphones when I cab), at least I'm not making a mess.

[NDK]

iamchris that's a nice shop space.
I'm a bit surprised it hasn't been mentioned - having the cabbing machine in front of the breaker box seems like a bit of a safety hazard to me. I know usually there's very little spray from the wheels but better safe than sorry.

[Rockoonz]

Dec 31, 2023 14:43:51 GMT -5 NDK said:

iamchris that's a nice shop space.
I'm a bit surprised it hasn't been mentioned - having the cabbing machine in front of the breaker box seems like a bit of a safety hazard to me. I know usually there's very little spray from the wheels but better safe than sorry.

Surface wiring with romex below ceiling height is the scary thing for me, personally I don't want visible romex anywhere, but code in some places may allow for it in an unfinished basement. Might be a way to hang a "just in case" bit of shower curtain or something in front of it.

[khara]

Really nice workspace.👍 I had looked at that HP CB8 but went with the Kingsley North instead. I like that both are stainless and have more skin sparing space between the wheels. It’d be fun to try all the various machines and be able to compare working with them. Having a nice workspace is huge. It makes production so much easier to have the right tools.

[iamchris]

Dec 31, 2023 17:04:14 GMT -5 khara said:

Really nice workspace.👍 I had looked at that HP CB8 but went with the Kingsley North instead. I like that both are stainless and have more skin sparing space between the wheels. It’d be fun to try all the various machines and be able to compare working with them. Having a nice workspace is huge. It makes production so much easier to have the right tools.

I wish I had room for the Kingsley North. It's 40" long, versus 31" or so for the CB8. In retrospect I could have had room for another table for the trim saw, but I wanted to fit them both on the single desk. I think I have slight regrets, but there's no going back now.

The removable side shields are better than the add-ons from HP. Also comes with a submersible pump, also comes with a 360 flat disc for one side, and a polishing disc with diamond compound for the other.

HP didn't offer any of those, and I bought them separately from KN. If it wasn't for the Black Friday sale, I probably would have gone the other way as the value proposition isn't there for the CB8 with the stingy lack of accessories.

[khara]

Mine is the 6”. I looked at the 8’s, from all companies, but when I saw the space between the wheels on the KN 6”, and previously only had worked on a club 6” Genie, I figured I could forgo the 8”. But like I said it would be interesting to try all these machines. I’ve never worked on an 8”, or even a 4” wheel. I was also dealing with limited space and my bench was built to fit the machine exactly. I have a post here somewhere….

Here it is:
forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/100789/officially-setup-machine-first-cabs

[iamchris]

Jan 2, 2024 9:01:53 GMT -5 @hefty said:

Nice setup! I'm in the same boat... came for tumbling advice but someone in the club gave me a Kingsley north catalog and it was over. This year I acquired 4 machines and I'm about to setup a space for them. How do you like having yours on the adjustable desk? Is that a Workpro model? I just bought two standing desks, never used one before, but I think it's going to be really nice to dial in a comfort zone on the different machines. I'm a little worried an adjusting table would wobble too much and make fine precision lapidary work a little risky. Hows your experience been?

This is the furniture I'm most excited for though. How perfect will this be for displaying my rough

That rack looks great! Any chance you have a link for it?

I like the height control of the standing desks, but I'm anticipating having to buy or make a butcher block countertop to mount to the top of it. It's a bit of a budget one I got on a Black Friday sale: [blocked Amazon short link]3H8Wj6a

They make it look like it's one piece of wood, but it's actually two, cut the long way. I fully anticipate it'll get a bit weaker from spray, and will have to be replaced with something a bit more sturdy.

It rocks very slightly when I apply a lot of pressure during rough grind. I plan on removing the carpet underneath when I get back from vacation, which should eliminate that, but may be attributable to the leg length of the table. Too soon to tell, sorry.

[liveoak]

Thought I'd throw out what I found for my cabber that works pretty good.
A stainless steel kitchen work table.

It has an adjustable shelf, so I was able to raise it high enough to have a 5 gallon bucket under it & still have a useable shelf.

It's stool height, which works for me, as it means I can stand or sit & it doesn't matter that it gets wet.

Patty