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Post by Jugglerguy on Apr 27, 2024 21:39:24 GMT -5
Really cool. Ya that 2nd one is really nice and the polish made the patterns really pop. They look neat though even just rough. Makes me wonder if it’d be possible to polish them somehow and yet keep the craters. It looks like the surface of the moon. I wonder if sandblasting with various grits of sand could keep the craters and also develop a polish. That sounds like a future video for Rob to do. I did bring a larger pink one home and slabbed it. It didn't make the video because it was complete garbage inside. ![](https://rockshow.rocktumblinghobby.com/i.php?/upload/2024/04/27/20240427143416-9b8303e8-me.jpg) Here's the part I decided not to slab. You can see some of the pink color. ![](https://rockshow.rocktumblinghobby.com/i.php?/upload/2024/04/27/20240427143420-47aef3c5-me.jpg) Yea, have to agree that one isn't good. I think that the number and quality of Petoskey Stones we found that day is the worst that I have found in those areas in the last five years that I have been looking for them. I have to believe the low water and no ice for the last two winters just hasn't stirred them up and depositied them on the shore. I have some ugly ones that I will post later that I collected from your secret spot. Will see if any of them turn out or not. Regarding the pink ones, I have found some of those in the past in the area you went to between the super market and the State Park. Hopefully you got lucky and found a few good ones at that spot I told you about.
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Post by khara on Apr 28, 2024 5:36:21 GMT -5
It occurred to me while watching the last two videos, all of you out in pretty chilly and windy weather and watching the tide lap up on the shore…. I’m not sure if you realize.. that’s NOT normal for a lake! As in, the rest of us that have just normal sized lakes all around us, there isn’t any tide on them! The ocean beaches are all that have a tide and the lake edges are mostly just calm except for the possibility of wakes from boats. I imagine you’ve both traveled plenty at this point in life but it does strike me as probably an interesting perspective. If you grew up near the Great Lakes, and knew the tides, then finally at some point traveled to the ocean, and again saw the tides, then went to a smaller lake and… no tides. Maybe that was odd. Maybe it was odd for the ocean to seem just like a lake to you. Myself, I’ve never seen a lake with a tide.🤓
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Post by Jugglerguy on Apr 28, 2024 7:05:26 GMT -5
It occurred to me while watching the last two videos, all of you out in pretty chilly and windy weather and watching the tide lap up on the shore…. I’m not sure if you realize.. that’s NOT normal for a lake! As in, the rest of us that have just normal sized lakes all around us, there isn’t any tide on them! The ocean beaches are all that have a tide and the lake edges are mostly just calm except for the possibility of wakes from boats. I imagine you’ve both traveled plenty at this point in life but it does strike me as probably an interesting perspective. If you grew up near the Great Lakes, and knew the tides, then finally at some point traveled to the ocean, and again saw the tides, then went to a smaller lake and… no tides. Maybe that was odd. Maybe it was odd for the ocean to seem just like a lake to you. Myself, I’ve never seen a lake with a tide.🤓 There are no noticeable tides on the Great Lakes. There are some big waves, but not tides. The waterline is in about the same place all throughout the day. There is a fluctuation in the lake levels over years. About three years ago, the lake levels were very high to the point that some people were loosing their property and even their houses due to erosion. Right now, the lake levels are lower.
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Post by chris1956 on Apr 28, 2024 9:03:21 GMT -5
It occurred to me while watching the last two videos, all of you out in pretty chilly and windy weather and watching the tide lap up on the shore…. I’m not sure if you realize.. that’s NOT normal for a lake! As in, the rest of us that have just normal sized lakes all around us, there isn’t any tide on them! The ocean beaches are all that have a tide and the lake edges are mostly just calm except for the possibility of wakes from boats. I imagine you’ve both traveled plenty at this point in life but it does strike me as probably an interesting perspective. If you grew up near the Great Lakes, and knew the tides, then finally at some point traveled to the ocean, and again saw the tides, then went to a smaller lake and… no tides. Maybe that was odd. Maybe it was odd for the ocean to seem just like a lake to you. Myself, I’ve never seen a lake with a tide.🤓 As Rob said, there are no noticeable tides on the Great Lakes. However, what a lot of people don't realise is how big the Great Lakes are. The average width of Lake Michigan is 120 miles. So from where we were in Petoskey, you can't even begin to see across to Wisconsin. It looks the same as the ocean. It also means that you get big waves which along with the ice tends to pile up the rocks that you see along the shoreline in the video. I looked it up and the record Lake Michigan wave (from bouy data) is 23 feet in 2011. I would say the worst storms tend to come from the northwest and those waves tend to get funneled into where we were looking for stones. When you go to smaller "inland" lakes in the area, you don't see nearly as much rock piled up as you do on Lake Michigan because you don't get the big waves or ice action.
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Post by wargrafix on Apr 28, 2024 10:04:20 GMT -5
It occurred to me while watching the last two videos, all of you out in pretty chilly and windy weather and watching the tide lap up on the shore…. I’m not sure if you realize.. that’s NOT normal for a lake! As in, the rest of us that have just normal sized lakes all around us, there isn’t any tide on them! The ocean beaches are all that have a tide and the lake edges are mostly just calm except for the possibility of wakes from boats. I imagine you’ve both traveled plenty at this point in life but it does strike me as probably an interesting perspective. If you grew up near the Great Lakes, and knew the tides, then finally at some point traveled to the ocean, and again saw the tides, then went to a smaller lake and… no tides. Maybe that was odd. Maybe it was odd for the ocean to seem just like a lake to you. Myself, I’ve never seen a lake with a tide.🤓 There are no noticeable tides on the Great Lakes. There are some big waves, but not tides. The waterline is in about the same place all throughout the day. There is a fluctuation in the lake levels over years. About three years ago, the lake levels were very high to the point that some people were loosing their property and even their houses due to erosion. Right now, the lake levels are lower. Your videos are really great. Don't worry about the wind 99% if the audio comes out great
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Post by Jugglerguy on Apr 28, 2024 11:25:20 GMT -5
There was a big storm in Marquette a few years back. This video does a fairly good job at showing just how big the rocks in this area are, but it doesn't show the width of those rocks. If you have ever been to the Black Rocks in Marquette, this will be even more impressive.
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Post by realrockhound on Apr 28, 2024 14:56:36 GMT -5
I polished a couple of the Petoskey Stones today that were in the Michgan Rocks Video. First one is the Petoskey Stone that is at about 2:45 in the video (encase you are really interested). Attached are pictures before and after. I think Rob was right that this one wasn't going to be great. Turned out ok. I only did one side. There is a little bit of pink in this one that doesn't show up on the pics. The pink is caused from iron. Also the little fossil is neat. I think it might be a crinoid (viewed from the side with most of one segmenet missing) but could be wrong. Unpolished Wet ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251443/new-members/g7frtndaxckb95aistej.jpg) ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251442/new-members/y9d0jddncrggpclr3ysm.jpg) Polished Dry ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251482/new-members/wydo2tgvejgyfypgrog4.jpg) ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251482/new-members/iqzfhgcmool2rgasfy0t.jpg) ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251482/new-members/pfjirlnxuzozg3lfdvtg.jpg) Second one is the Petoskey Stone that I hold up at about 9:10 in the video. This one turned out pretty nice. There is some soft limestone or sand in some of the eyes. But there is a lot of pink although it doesn't show up real well in the pics (you can see the color best in the last closeup pic). Happy with this one. I only polished the one face but may do the others later as there is a fair amount of pink on the other sides also. This is one that if baked in mineral oil, the bad spots in the eyes would mostly disappear. Probably won't do that with this one. Rob Jugglerguy picked up one larger Petoskey Stone that looked like it had some pink in it. Not sure if he kept that one or not but I don't think it made the video. Unpolished Wet ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251746/new-members/ig6kyajcqzgf2sxpg6m6.jpg) Polished Dry ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251837/new-members/th5pipher0ebwa8aqukc.jpg) ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251837/new-members/pwla7umtcad1corj4otq.jpg) ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/rth-new-member/image/upload/v1714251837/new-members/qydr87gw5wkhxotjnnam.jpg) Thanks for looking Chris Damn.. That last one is a stunner
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Post by chris1956 on Apr 28, 2024 16:47:53 GMT -5
There was another one that I picked up in the video that looked better but I can't find it. It might have jumped out of my bag somewhere along the shore or maybe I missed it when I was sorting through the stones.
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Post by wargrafix on Apr 28, 2024 17:14:41 GMT -5
There was another one that I picked up in the video that looked better but I can't find it. It might have jumped out of my bag somewhere along the shore or maybe I missed it when I was sorting through the stones. I hope you find it. Or it mean you are going to find one 10 times better the next time you go hunting!
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Post by khara on Apr 28, 2024 20:06:11 GMT -5
It occurred to me while watching the last two videos, all of you out in pretty chilly and windy weather and watching the tide lap up on the shore…. I’m not sure if you realize.. that’s NOT normal for a lake! As in, the rest of us that have just normal sized lakes all around us, there isn’t any tide on them! The ocean beaches are all that have a tide and the lake edges are mostly just calm except for the possibility of wakes from boats. I imagine you’ve both traveled plenty at this point in life but it does strike me as probably an interesting perspective. If you grew up near the Great Lakes, and knew the tides, then finally at some point traveled to the ocean, and again saw the tides, then went to a smaller lake and… no tides. Maybe that was odd. Maybe it was odd for the ocean to seem just like a lake to you. Myself, I’ve never seen a lake with a tide.🤓 As Rob said, there are no noticeable tides on the Great Lakes. However, what a lot of people don't realise is how big the Great Lakes are. The average width of Lake Michigan is 120 miles. So from where we were in Petoskey, you can't even begin to see across to Wisconsin. It looks the same as the ocean. It also means that you get big waves which along with the ice tends to pile up the rocks that you see along the shoreline in the video. I looked it up and the record Lake Michigan wave (from bouy data) is 23 feet in 2011. I would say the worst storms tend to come from the northwest and those waves tend to get funneled into where we were looking for stones. When you go to smaller "inland" lakes in the area, you don't see nearly as much rock piled up as you do on Lake Michigan because you don't get the big waves or ice action. Yes, sorry, I used the wrong term. What I was really trying to comment on were the consistently crashing and pretty strong waves on the shore. It’s very ocean beach-like and not at all like most lake shores I know. The beach (ocean) here can be quite stormy and even hazardous. Your lake looks similar, like you have to be a bit careful. I wouldn’t describe our lake edges as in that category. I just realized too that we (the people I know anyway) often tend to use the terms tide and wave interchangeably. Really not the most accurate. But it’s a quick way to remind someone to be aware of their surroundings and to watch the water. Kids are taught to be careful of big waves, but that’s kind of an automated self-learning experience. Once you’ve been knocked down once, you pretty much remember it. Then they are taught about the undercurrent. This is hidden, you can’t see it but you can feel it, and standing in the water and feeling it, it also becomes a sort of engrained thing you just know to be careful of. And then finally the tides. The moving tides can create differing types of waves, stronger/faster/taller/longer. You can also easily get trapped somewhere if you’ve wandered too far and then the tide comes back in. You can then find yourself fighting both rising water along with strong waves as you try and make your way back to your access point. Growing up, “watch the tide!” meant be aware of all 3 of these ocean hazards. The Oregon coast wave heights out at the buoys average about 3’ to 10’ during calm summer to winter months and then can reach 25’-30’ during storms. Then there are the ideal surf spots where the waves can be 50’. So, your 23’ on a lake is pretty impressive!
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Post by Son Of Beach on Apr 28, 2024 21:09:32 GMT -5
It occurred to me while watching the last two videos, all of you out in pretty chilly and windy weather and watching the tide lap up on the shore…. I’m not sure if you realize.. that’s NOT normal for a lake! As in, the rest of us that have just normal sized lakes all around us, there isn’t any tide on them! The ocean beaches are all that have a tide and the lake edges are mostly just calm except for the possibility of wakes from boats. I imagine you’ve both traveled plenty at this point in life but it does strike me as probably an interesting perspective. If you grew up near the Great Lakes, and knew the tides, then finally at some point traveled to the ocean, and again saw the tides, then went to a smaller lake and… no tides. Maybe that was odd. Maybe it was odd for the ocean to seem just like a lake to you. Myself, I’ve never seen a lake with a tide.🤓 I try to explain to people how big the lakes are, and they never really understand.
I took it for granted growing up near Lake Michigan how special that area really is.
Agree with Rob though, I never noticed tides, just big influxes depending on the weather.
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Post by andyiii on May 15, 2024 18:13:31 GMT -5
Great Video of a Great Day! Congrats on those finds.
I live near Lake Ontario and we don't find such cool things along the lake here!
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Post by chris1956 on May 16, 2024 7:47:45 GMT -5
Great Video of a Great Day! Congrats on those finds. I live near Lake Ontario and we don't find such cool things along the lake here! There will be an update of sorts (video) out probably Friday night. I will add a link when it is out.
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Post by chris1956 on May 17, 2024 19:32:56 GMT -5
Here is a link to the video of the large Petoskey Stone that I found last year in one of the locations Rob Jugglerguy and I hunted in April. Turned out great! I really like that the bottom caught the whole bottom radial pattern. Someone asked what the finished weight was in a comment and I think Rob still has it so he can respond to that (I was currious too). I knew there would be a lot of loss just because of how rough it was. Thanks again Rob for polishing it.
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Post by pebblesky on May 17, 2024 22:19:43 GMT -5
Wow, this is a very nice large piece. I love the bottom pattern too. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by dshanpnw on May 18, 2024 10:58:47 GMT -5
There was a big storm in Marquette a few years back. This video does a fairly good job at showing just how big the rocks in this area are, but it doesn't show the width of those rocks. If you have ever been to the Black Rocks in Marquette, this will be even more impressive. I would assume storms with waves like those are what causes most of the ship wrecks, like the famous Edmund Fitzgerald.
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Post by parfive on May 18, 2024 13:33:57 GMT -5
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Post by wargrafix on May 18, 2024 13:41:32 GMT -5
All I.want for Christmas is rocks. And Petoskey stones.
Damn rob for introducing me to this amazing rock. The polished rocks look stunning and pretty
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Post by chris1956 on May 18, 2024 14:20:55 GMT -5
Wow, this is a very nice large piece. I love the bottom pattern too. Thanks for sharing! Thanks for looking. I do like the bottom pattern. I think it is maybe because you don't typically get a flat surface and have a complete 360 degree radial pattern. There was a big storm in Marquette a few years back. This video does a fairly good job at showing just how big the rocks in this area are, but it doesn't show the width of those rocks. If you have ever been to the Black Rocks in Marquette, this will be even more impressive. I would assume storms with waves like those are what causes most of the ship wrecks, like the famous Edmund Fitzgerald. Yes. I was in college near Lake Superior when the Edmund Fitzgerald went down. The day after was the one of the windiest (sustained winds) days that I have seen. I remember it being hard to walk from building to building that next morning. Wow! I think I would get sick if I was there in person. I will stick with the video. All I.want for Christmas is rocks. And Petoskey stones. Damn rob for introducing me to this amazing rock. The polished rocks look stunning and pretty They are in deed.
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Post by Jugglerguy on May 18, 2024 22:19:57 GMT -5
Here is a link to the video of the large Petoskey Stone that I found last year in one of the locations Rob Jugglerguy and I hunted in April. Turned out great! I really like that the bottom caught the whole bottom radial pattern. Someone asked what the finished weight was in a comment and I think Rob still has it so he can respond to that (I was currious too). I knew there would be a lot of loss just because of how rough it was. Thanks again Rob for polishing it. It lost four pounds. 12.5 pounds down to 8.5 pounds.
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