Rogue Trader
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Post by Rogue Trader on Jul 21, 2009 9:05:23 GMT -5
Yessireee, these are most definately fossils. As fossils are not my thing I haven't a clue what they are, just twirly whirly patterns in a rock Now then, I found these while sorting a box of rocks out to send to a buyer. Initially I was just picking the rocks and putting them into the box and weighing off at the same time. I noticed these were a different colour and then turned them over and spotted the worms. If you were a buyer and found these in your box of fancy rocks would you complain about them? I mean after all you did want rocks for cutting and polishing. Thanks for your time. John
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Jul 21, 2009 9:35:40 GMT -5
To me it looks like the host rock that held "scaphites",those look like the patterns of the fossil..................
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Simon
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Post by Simon on Jul 21, 2009 11:19:04 GMT -5
Yup they're fossils right enough, looks to me like an ammonite split in half, take it the 2 halves fit together. Looks like the rocks pretty soft as well.
No I wouldn't be very happy as it's not what I ordered, that's if I was the customer.
Simon
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Rogue Trader
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Post by Rogue Trader on Jul 21, 2009 11:30:34 GMT -5
Yup they're fossils right enough, looks to me like an ammonite split in half, take it the 2 halves fit together. Looks like the rocks pretty soft as well. No I wouldn't be very happy as it's not what I ordered, that's if I was the customer. Simon Two different pieces and they do not fit/match together. Obviously I've kept them
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Saskrock
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Post by Saskrock on Jul 23, 2009 12:48:56 GMT -5
Cool fossils rogue.
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Post by Fossilman on Jul 28, 2009 9:07:50 GMT -5
To me it looks like the host rock that held "scaphites",those look like the patterns of the fossil.................. I still believe they are the host rock that those scaphites were encased in........The evidence is there....
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Post by texaswoodie on Jul 28, 2009 9:41:56 GMT -5
Yup, fossil casts, but cool none the less.
Curt
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Post by Fossilman on Jul 29, 2009 9:24:26 GMT -5
Yup, fossil casts, but cool none the less. Curt Yes they are,I have a few host rocks myself............ ;D
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Rogue Trader
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Post by Rogue Trader on Jul 29, 2009 14:31:40 GMT -5
OK guys, you've baffled me with your discussion. What ya meaning like?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2009 14:44:00 GMT -5
I think.......what they are meaning is that your particular "fossils" arent the actual fossil animals preserved/petrified. They are the casts. Its like when you make a mold. Your pieces are the mold. Its the "shape" of what used to be inside but yours specifically are just the mud/host rock that formed around the actual fossil itself.
Correct me if Im wrong guys, but thats what I got out of the thread.
Shan
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Post by texaswoodie on Jul 29, 2009 15:24:33 GMT -5
Correctomundo Shan.
Take a fossil and press it into a piece of clay, then remove the fossil. The imprint left in the clay is what you have.
Curt
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Simon
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Post by Simon on Jul 29, 2009 16:14:51 GMT -5
First ones a cast second ones a fossil The fossils a gryphea or devils toenail about four inches long. Simon
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Post by johnjsgems on Jul 29, 2009 21:23:40 GMT -5
The three types of fossils:
mineral replacement (like the petrified woods showing knots/growth rings.
The item itself (like the bones dug out at Brea Tar Pits)
Imprints (dino tracks, foot prints, and imprints like your ammonite left in the rock you found). When I was in Utah in May I found a neat (to me) rock with a dino leg bone imprint. It is very detailed and since no bone, sorry government it is legal (I hope).
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Rogue Trader
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Post by Rogue Trader on Jul 30, 2009 2:58:43 GMT -5
Thankyou very much your your information. It is/was an education. After all those years of picking up stones and calling them fossils, I guess myself, and thousands and thousands of other kids had/have been totally misinformed. What we were actually picking up were castings and not the actual fossils. Thanks guys, seriously, I have been educated. Now then, you can't tell me these are not ACTUAL fossils after putting me right ;D
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Simon
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Post by Simon on Jul 30, 2009 5:54:54 GMT -5
Thankyou very much your your information. It is/was an education. After all those years of picking up stones and calling them fossils, I guess myself, and thousands and thousands of other kids had/have been totally misinformed. What we were actually picking up were castings and not the actual fossils. Thanks guys, seriously, I have been educated. Now then, you can't tell me these are not ACTUAL fossils after putting me right ;D Yup, first 2 pics are a water worn Gryphea, 3rd pic is a partial ammonite in fact it looks like 2 partial ammonites one across the end on left of picture, you have some excellent beaches in your neck of the woods for fossil collection. Being up north. www.discussfossils.com/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=8&TopicID=262&PagePosition=1 somewhere called Robin Hoods Bay. Simon
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Post by Rogue Trader on Jul 30, 2009 7:41:57 GMT -5
Simon, these came from the beaches of Redca'. Redcar if yer posh like
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Post by Simon on Jul 30, 2009 9:13:18 GMT -5
John, I picked up a belemnite in a pub car park just looked down as I got out of the car and there it was. www.fossilbase.org/index.php?pageid=beginner 3rd pic down are Belemnites www.ukfossils.co.uk/main.htm Tells you what you can find and where, I'll take some pics of bits me and the Mrs have found, if nothing else they make good garden rocks. It makes for good exercise walking around with a back pack that gets heavier as you go, I think we came back with 60lbs last wkend. Simon
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Post by Fossilman on Aug 2, 2009 7:43:14 GMT -5
Yes sir,those are nice pieces of fossil.......
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