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Post by gingerkid on Apr 15, 2012 22:29:35 GMT -5
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rockdude
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by rockdude on Apr 16, 2012 5:27:53 GMT -5
2 different things. Bevel of course is any slope, could be the slanted edge of a cab for instance. BEZEL is a strip of metal for holding a cab in place. It would be slightly larger than the beveled edge of the stone, then bent in to hold the stone.
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Post by Pat on Apr 16, 2012 9:09:34 GMT -5
My dining room table is bevelled, but does not sport a bezel. ;D
You can put a bezel on a bevel, but not the other way around.
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 16, 2012 11:57:03 GMT -5
Hi, many thanks for your explanations, rockdude and Pat!! ;D I was very confused since I've seen both used for cabochon "nomenclature." I've seen them used interchangeably, have y'all? I think what really threw me off is that the cabmate has an attachment that Graves calls a "bezel table" that in the information for the piece is said to help create "bezels." This really threw me for a loop, lol. I wondered for a long time if it were a typo. My dining room table is bevelled, but does not sport a bezel. ;D You can put a bezel on a bevel, but not the other way around. ROFL!! ;D
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Post by mohs on Apr 16, 2012 15:23:28 GMT -5
can you bevel a girdle ? can you girdle a bezel? mostly
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Post by johnjsgems on Apr 17, 2012 10:49:05 GMT -5
The bevel on the cab bottom edge is to fit a bezel without chipping off. Even wire wrap cabs should have a slight bevel rather than a sharp edge. Both the flat girdle and bevel below would fit in a bazzle but I don't think calling them bezel would be correct. I can see where misuse of terms could get confusing.
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xXxAlisha91xXx
spending too much on rocks
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Post by xXxAlisha91xXx on Apr 17, 2012 11:40:04 GMT -5
I've been wondering that, too, Jan... Thanks for clearing that up LOL
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Post by mohs on Apr 17, 2012 12:45:33 GMT -5
i my bizzle is definitely beffudlE mostly
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Post by tntmom on Apr 17, 2012 15:34:56 GMT -5
I'm the worst person at misusing terms LOL!! I bevel the bottom edge of my cab to keep it from chipping. The girdle is the flat edge of the cab but then I do another bevel ( ) down to the top edge of the girdle to start my dome. Now I'm curious if I even said that correctly!?!?!
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Post by mohs on Apr 18, 2012 0:50:13 GMT -5
you explained that beautifully ~K but I'm still baffled what to do with the bezel?
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 18, 2012 3:00:56 GMT -5
I'm the worst person at misusing terms LOL!! I bevel the bottom edge of my cab to keep it from chipping. The girdle is the flat edge of the cab but then I do another bevel ( ) down to the top edge of the girdle to start my dome. Now I'm curious if I even said that correctly!?!?! ROFL!! Ed, I hope I'm not being nosy, but, I am wondering if "Mostly" is your last name? When I see "mostly," I think of the little girl, Newt, on the movie, "Aliens" when she is speaking to Ripley about the aliens. She said, "They (the aliens) mostly come out at night. Mostly." ;D
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Post by mohs on Apr 18, 2012 12:34:58 GMT -5
Ha Ha ~Jan~ ! Newt could be my daughter misty ! mostly o your new so you haven't been thru the evolution of names so allow met to introduce myself I'm Ed...mostly but mostly-- most peoples just call me, mostly mostly
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Post by gr on Apr 18, 2012 18:09:58 GMT -5
Ed mostly, mostly now I'm confused, mostly! And yes, a bevel can, and should, (mostly),be put on the inside top of a bezel - better finish or "marriage line" to the stone. that's my :2cents:
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Post by mohs on Apr 18, 2012 21:53:03 GMT -5
;D
what baffles me mostly is should the girdle be ground on a bevel mostly or mostly with a bezel in mind ? mostly
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Post by gr on Apr 18, 2012 23:23:02 GMT -5
Mostly with the bezel in mind - mostly, but, can go mostly either way. design and grind mostly
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Post by gr on Apr 18, 2012 23:24:58 GMT -5
Sorry Jan - didn't mean to hi-jack your thread. kinda drifted off on a tangent there
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Post by mohs on Apr 19, 2012 0:20:10 GMT -5
you should have used a square & compass gr mostly
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Post by johnjsgems on Apr 19, 2012 17:21:06 GMT -5
Krystee I'm not sure I understood your comment but I was taught to cut the bottom bevel and girdle. Then cut a bevel above the girdle. Then cut an overlapping bevel above that at a steeper angle. Continue cutting steeper bevels until they meet at top. Then grind all the edges off.
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Post by Woodyrock on Apr 25, 2012 0:47:39 GMT -5
After all this, 'bezel', and bevel can be used interchangeably since the work bezel is the older form of the word bevel. Even today, in English, (not American) bezel is more used for a sloping surface such as the bezel around a gem stone. Woody
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 29, 2012 0:39:31 GMT -5
Krystee I'm not sure I understood your comment but I was taught to cut the bottom bevel and girdle. Then cut a bevel above the girdle. Then cut an overlapping bevel above that at a steeper angle. Continue cutting steeper bevels until they meet at top. Then grind all the edges off. I think I understand what you are saying, John.
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