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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 7, 2014 17:46:03 GMT -5
OK, so the picture isn't that good and my hand is still dirty from the steel wool, but here it is. (I'm excited.) I had a hard time with the bail. It's solid as a rock, but it took some doing. Looks a little messy, too. But, seeing how this is my 5th (I think) piece, I'm just happy that it came together, at all. I found out the using wite out really works. This is in the tumbler right now. I'll get better pics later and post them with the other pieces. I think I'll try the acid etching again. It was fun. UPDATE: I tumbled, polished and added beads. I wish that little solder run wasn't there. Then I could sell this. As is, I guess I can give it away.
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Post by steelandstone on Feb 7, 2014 18:28:17 GMT -5
That came out very nice. Like how you made it mimic the patterns in the stone. I actually just got some Ferric Chloride this week to try some etching. The white out worked well for you as the resist??
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 7, 2014 18:56:41 GMT -5
That came out very nice. Like how you made it mimic the patterns in the stone. I actually just got some Ferric Chloride this week to try some etching. The white out worked well for you as the resist?? I should have been more clear. The wite out was for in case the solder ran to the backplate when I was soldering the bail. I used black sharpie as resist for the acid. I left it in a half hour and the etch was not very deep.
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Post by carloscinco on Feb 8, 2014 8:26:58 GMT -5
Really like how the etch follows the stones patterns!
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Post by pghram on Feb 8, 2014 12:26:21 GMT -5
Beautiful design & execution, that piece is very ince.
Rich
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Post by steelandstone on Feb 8, 2014 15:09:39 GMT -5
The updated pictures are really nice. The necklace you added goes extremely well with it. I assume that is the copper solder from raw treasures?? If so I feel your pain. I purchased some last week and have been playing with it. That solder is a fickle little beast. I have had problems with it running also, I cannot seem to control it near as well as I can silver solder. The other thing is it hard to do multiple solders. With silver solder I use the hard for the bezel and medium for just about everything else no matter how many connection points I have with no issues but with the copper solder it seems to want to creep out previous joints when I try to do the next one.
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 8, 2014 18:21:23 GMT -5
The updated pictures are really nice. The necklace you added goes extremely well with it. I assume that is the copper solder from raw treasures?? If so I feel your pain. I purchased some last week and have been playing with it. That solder is a fickle little beast. I have had problems with it running also, I cannot seem to control it near as well as I can silver solder. The other thing is it hard to do multiple solders. With silver solder I use the hard for the bezel and medium for just about everything else no matter how many connection points I have with no issues but with the copper solder it seems to want to creep out previous joints when I try to do the next one. Yes, I am using the solder from rawtreasures. I have used it a lot in the past. The other copper piece that I posted here, had a problem with the solder around the bezel running when I sweat soldered the bail onto the back. It was my very first sweat solder though, so I probably over heated or heated too long. On this piece, I was really worried about that happening again, so I coated around the bezel with wite out. The area of solder that ran was entirely my fault. The solder ran the way it was supposed to and I flashed the heat for a second where the solder ran to. Entirely my error. I'll know better next time. You're right, though, it is more difficult than silver solder.
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Post by 1dave on Feb 8, 2014 21:46:26 GMT -5
Great job! Anyone would be proud to wear it!
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Post by hubrocks on Feb 8, 2014 22:28:30 GMT -5
Tela Tela Tela is there anything you can't do! Been following your progress, and must say I knew you would put out some cool stuff. Still groove wrapping myself, but have been playing with my little smith torch some........Hub
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Post by jamesp on Feb 8, 2014 22:29:11 GMT -5
You are a fast learner. Can tell you are used to doing such work. Some people just have natural abilities.
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Post by quartz on Feb 8, 2014 23:40:19 GMT -5
Nice piece, I like the overall pattern match of it. Certainly makes it a one-off. Have you tried Scotch-Brite abrasive pads? I have come to prefer them over steel wool for the little brass/copper things I like to work with, cleaner and not so many little slivers. They come in three grades.
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Post by connrock on Feb 9, 2014 9:18:09 GMT -5
Your choice of stone and design are just great!The bead colors match perfectly as well!You sure do have a "eye" for this!
I've only tried a few bezels and managed to finish a copper pendant/plume agate using the copper solder but am having the same problem as others with leaching and having previously solder joints come apart or look terrible at the least.I've tried using heat sinks but that doesn't work for me either and I'm pretty disappointed.I don't have the patience I used to have and have only been trying this in short "doses" so maybe I'll get better with it in time but right now I don't know how!
What thickness copper are you using for your bezels.I tried 0.007" thick copper and it was a TOTAL disaster when I tried to solder the bezel onto the back plate. I ended up using 0.021" thick and did manage to get it soldered to the back plate but the joint opened up on the bezel on me! I'd post a photo but I don't think this is a Comedy Show! LOL
connrock
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 9, 2014 9:38:27 GMT -5
Thanks everyone hubrocks I am sooooo happy to hear from you and even more happy to hear that you are still making jewelry. I hope you are doing well. quartz Yes, I am using scotchbrite, but only the kind from the grocery store and the radial wheels- my understanding is that they are scotchbrite, too. For los, I mostly use 0000 steel wool. connrock I got 24g sheet to work with for now. I wish I had gotten heavier. I will next time. The bezel wire is 26g. I ordered some 28, though. I think that timing is key to this solder. As soon as it starts to flow, you have to remove the heat. Keep at it. It's not bad once you get the hang of it. When I soldered the bail onto this one, the solder around the bezel stayed put.
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Post by Tom on Feb 10, 2014 9:47:48 GMT -5
Wow Tela! Thats your 5th piece of work, what will you be making when you get some practice LOL. You are a natural. So the black sharpie will stop the etching process?
Great work!
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Post by connrock on Feb 10, 2014 10:37:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the copper guage info. I didn't want the bezel wire to be too thick so it would form nicely over the stone but the thin copper(0.007") just melted when soldering it to the back plate. connrock
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 10, 2014 17:49:18 GMT -5
Wow Tela! Thats your 5th piece of work, what will you be making when you get some practice LOL. You are a natural. So the black sharpie will stop the etching process? Great work! Thank you Yes, black sharpie is a good resist for this kind of etching. I've read that red sharpie works better, but the black worked fine for me. My lines were quite thin and it worked great.
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Post by Tom on Feb 10, 2014 19:14:30 GMT -5
Thanks Tela, my wife saw the pendant and loves it, she wants to experiment with acid now, umm not LSD kind. I wonder where I can get some of that product to play with. So basically you can just draw a pattern on to some copper with sharpie and it will keep that pattern, very cool. I have a few items to show off and will try to get them posted on friday.
Thanks again:)
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 10, 2014 22:34:12 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on Feb 11, 2014 7:38:30 GMT -5
thanks Lee
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Post by adrian65 on Feb 11, 2014 9:41:37 GMT -5
The extension of the rock pattern on the metal frame is fantastic! Superb.
Adrian
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