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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 3, 2014 9:02:55 GMT -5
WOO HOO ! Found a first addition of Garnet" by John D. Rouse in like new condition at a London bookseller for $100.00. It's on its way. Haven't check on the others yet.
There are several others listed for sale, but all are 2nd edition, and at a much higher cost.
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 3, 2014 10:37:51 GMT -5
Very nice specimens, Mrs. Pat and jakesrocks!! Mrs. Pat, I'm not sure, but your specimen may be from Arizona or Alaska. Awesome shot of your gorgeous spessartine specimen with your new stand, jakesrocks. Sure wish I hadn't seen the listings of books on garnets. ahem. Those are nice prices for the one on collecting garnets. Thank you, washingtonrocks!! Here's an article that gemfeller wrote. Rick, if you want me to remove the link, please let me know, but I think it's a wonderful article on garnets (get no respect!). Garnet: It Gets No Respect by gemfeller: www.virtualfundy.com/Volumes/001/garnet.htmDr. Hanneman sent me the pamplets that were included in his Naming Gem Garnets book. I really like his classification of garnets. I asked Dr. Hanneman to sign everything that he sent to me.  gemologyproject.com/wiki/index.php?title=GarnetRick, is Dr. Hanneman still accepting contact through the Gemology Online forum, or do you have to look for his materials elsewhere? I think Pretty Rock and the Mineral Lab website were selling his materials, but haven't seen any of his materials on garnets. I often view Alan Guisewite's website and recommend it. He has an awesome mineral collection, and his garnet specimens are amazing. He has a green pyrope specimen, and a chart on color change garnets from different localities. Here's a pic of the green pyrope. I've seen a specimen or two being sold on eBay and John Betts has pics of green pyrope on his website.  Green pyrope from Afghanistan from the Alan Guisewite collection Source: www.cs.cmu.edu/~adg/adg-piimages.htmlHere's the chart created by Alan on color change garnets and rare garnets. www.cs.cmu.edu/~adg/adg-pgpimages.html |
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 3, 2014 11:55:09 GMT -5
Grossular specimen from my thumbnail collection.  |
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Post by washingtonrocks on Apr 3, 2014 12:14:17 GMT -5
gemfeller, you're right about the relationship HGG has with Vesuvianite/Idocrase. Quite often the two materials are combined in the same stone with all kinds of variations in the ratio of HGG to Vesuvianite. I've found some stones that even have a definitive, visible border-line where the vesuvianite meets the HGG, and some where the two are so intertwined with each other that different lab analyses will yield differing results as to percentages. Of the several stones I've sent in to be analyzed, about a third have come back as pure Hydrogrossular. Interesting stuff!
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Post by gemfeller on Apr 3, 2014 15:22:35 GMT -5
Here's an article that gemfeller wrote. Rick, if you want me to remove the link, please let me know, but I think it's a wonderful article on garnets (get no respect!). Garnet: It Gets No Respect by gemfeller: www.virtualfundy.com/Volumes/001/garnet.htmDr. Hanneman sent me the pamplets that were included in his Naming Gem Garnets book. I really like his classification of garnets. I asked Dr. Hanneman to sign everything that he sent to me. gemologyproject.com/wiki/index.php?title=GarnetRick, is Dr. Hanneman still accepting contact through the Gemology Online forum, or do you have to look for his materials elsewhere? I think Pretty Rock and the Mineral Lab website were selling his materials, but haven't seen any of his materials on garnets. gingerkid, Re: garnet article. No problem but I removed it from my website for a rewrite. I'm surprised Virtual Fundy is still up. The article's a little too glib IMO and needs some factual updates/changes. The email address is incorrect; it should be information@artcutgems.com Re: Hanneman, it's good you got the pamphlets for his original book. They're very useful in ID-ing unknowns, especially if they're under 1.80 R.I. I too think his garnet classification makes more sense than anything else I've found. I think if you review G.O.'s membership you'll find his contact info. He's a terrible businessman, as he freely admits. He keeps promoting his products but they're almost impossible to find. I think direct contact with him might be the best way to locate what you need, although you might also inquire through the websites you mention. |
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 3, 2014 21:20:46 GMT -5
That's a gorgeous specimen, jakesrocks! washingtonrocks, would you please post some pics of your hydrogrossular specimens? I enjoyed seeing the one in the tumbling thread with your green beauties. Thanks, Rick! I googled "Garnet: It Gets No Respect" and found it! I thought other members may also be interested in Dr. Hanneman's materials, especially garnets. |
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Post by Roller on Apr 4, 2014 19:07:36 GMT -5
Great collection !! Did you collect at Gore Mtn ?? I plan on going soon ..
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 7, 2014 11:03:02 GMT -5
Hi, Roller! No, haven't been to New York, but hope you'll share pics with us of your trip to Gore Mountain to search for almandine. |
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Post by gingerkid on Aug 14, 2014 13:19:36 GMT -5
Here's some more darned garnets I'm hoarding...  Spessartine from China  zoomed-in shot of gemmy spessartine from China  A @rocks2dust thumbnail of hibschite garnet from Ireland   Hessonite from Quebec This beauty was a gift from a good friend.  Andradite with ettringite (Africa) This specimen has several yellow ettringite crystals on the bottom  Andradite from Stanley Butte, Arizona, USA  cheater-shot of Stanley Butte andradite  Andradite from Lyon County, Nevada Received this beauty from gemfeller.  Bouquet of Pakistani spessartine on zinnwaldite with quartz, plagioclase and beryl   In this pic, you can see the beryl crystal peeking out from behind the largest spessartine  cheater-shot of the beryl xtal Thank you for lookin'! |
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Post by gingerkid on Dec 7, 2014 12:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by pghram on Dec 7, 2014 19:16:09 GMT -5
Beautiful specimens, I especially like the Andradite with Ettringite.
Rich
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Post by kellyj on Dec 9, 2014 7:36:31 GMT -5
Very nice collection. I also didn't know about the variations of garnets. Thank You for sharing. I learned a lot from pictures  . |
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Post by gingerkid on Dec 9, 2014 9:19:54 GMT -5
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Post by Starguy on Dec 24, 2014 15:51:59 GMT -5
gingerkidJan Awesome garnet collection. I have quite a few almandine garnets and a couple pink and greenish grossularite garnets. Nothing compared to your fabulous collection. Here is one I found in 1989. I wish I would have kept it. It has been cut polished and sold. I kept one large 6-Ray cab from it. I'll have to see if I can find the cab to photograph. It's still dopped but I estimate the cab at over 100 carats. If I can find it, I'll post a photo. Sorry about the crummy photo of an old photo. I almost threw it out because it seemed too big to be a garnet. Luckily I noticed how heavy it was. When I rubbed it with my thumb, a flat crystal face appeared. Needles to say I was pretty excited. It was about 8.5 ounces.  Here's a little better photo  Later Brent
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Post by gingerkid on Dec 24, 2014 16:24:50 GMT -5
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Post by MrP on Dec 24, 2014 16:45:40 GMT -5
Great collection..........MrP
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Post by Starguy on Dec 24, 2014 16:56:36 GMT -5
gingerkidHere is a photo of the big star. It is covered with stars. Star sapphires will only have two stars on a crystal. Garnets are covered with them, both 6-rays and 4-rays. top  And a a couple of side shots.    Here are a couple of my
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Post by Starguy on Dec 24, 2014 17:00:56 GMT -5
Oops Here are a couple of crystals.  |
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Post by washingtonrocks on Dec 24, 2014 18:26:50 GMT -5
washingtonrocks, would you please post some pics of your hydrogrossular specimens? I enjoyed seeing the one in the tumbling thread with your green beauties. Thanks, Rick! I googled "Garnet: It Gets No Respect" and found it! I thought other members may also be interested in Dr. Hanneman's materials, especially garnets. @gingerbread kid I can't believe I'm just now noticing you tagging me on this! Sorry, and hopefully it's not too late to reply. This is one of my favorite HGG specimens. Every bit as beautiful as jadeite imho, and at mohs 7, every bit as hard as well. Washington State Hydrogrossular Garnet:    |
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Post by washingtonrocks on Dec 24, 2014 18:50:05 GMT -5
Here's one more.   |
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Received this nice grossular from a good friend in the mail yesterday. 
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It was a big one! Thank goodness you inspected it before tossing it. 
