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Post by bushmanbilly on Mar 28, 2016 11:17:43 GMT -5
Badass on the back too. Went to an auction yesterday looking at a little fork lift. Bobcat would be my first choice. Lots of cool attachments for them. |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 28, 2016 13:28:59 GMT -5
Badass on the back too. Went to an auction yesterday looking at a little fork lift. Bobcat would be my first choice. Lots of cool attachments for them. A Bobcat is about as handy as it gets. Would be nice but a bit hard on budget. Attachments galore. Good as it gets. Check out this mini-outlaw dredge Dale. Used to power it with a high pressure centrifugal 12 volt pump using a high energy glass plate lead acid battery. Quiet, had a very powerful suction. With the 90 Keene pump it was outrageously powerful. Limited by 1.5 inch venturi, but for sucking cavities for gold in small stream perfect. Used to throw the sealed battery in the water, not a problem w/12 volts. radio |
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Post by Fossilman on Mar 28, 2016 14:46:06 GMT -5
Now that's wicked James!!
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Post by bushmanbilly on Mar 28, 2016 15:26:24 GMT -5
Nice, what was the run time on the batteries? You said that dredging was also outlawed there. Can you dredge on dry land away from the creek? I'm thinking of building one of these using exhaust pipe. midwestprospector.com/hydroforce.html |
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Post by radio on Mar 28, 2016 17:06:42 GMT -5
Bobcat would be my first choice. Lots of cool attachments for them. A Bobcat is about as handy as it gets. Would be nice but a bit hard on budget. Attachments galore. Good as it gets. Check out this mini-outlaw dredge Dale. Used to power it with a high pressure centrifugal 12 volt pump using a high energy glass plate lead acid battery. Quiet, had a very powerful suction. With the 90 Keene pump it was outrageously powerful. Limited by 1.5 inch venturi, but for sucking cavities for gold in small stream perfect. Used to throw the sealed battery in the water, not a problem w/12 volts. radio Sweet little machine!!! Years back, I toyed with building a small electric powered dredge to use in Moccasin Creek in the City limits of Coulterville, Ca. No gasoline powered dredges were allowed and there was a good amount of Gold in the creek. In the summer it didn't flow enough to use a sluice box, so a small dredge like that would have been ideal |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 28, 2016 17:35:18 GMT -5
Nice, what was the run time on the batteries? You said that dredging was also outlawed there. Can you dredge on dry land away from the creek? I'm thinking of building one of these using exhaust pipe. midwestprospector.com/hydroforce.htmlTrick is the 5 X 6 X 7 inch AGM battery. 4-5 hours easy. 8 miles pushing a 17 foot canoe using a trolling motor(that is as far as I pushed it) www.ebay.com/itm/VMAX800S-BOAT-TROLLING-MOTOR-MARINE-AGM-DEEP-CYCLE-BATTERY-12V-/280881753912Georgia may not say anything about that device. Georgia lenient, and allow dredging on many rocky bottom water ways. Florida would not let you use that device. They will not let you disturb any soil anywhere on state/Federal lands unless stated otherwise. Navigable water ways included. Digging allowed on the fossil rich Peace River, all sifting/digging must be done with hand tools. None others that I know of. Most guys prop wash in Florida(for artifacts). Using their boats. Get caught with any form of a dredge and they will shut your lights off. I sold this 35 HP monster. 6 foot hole in sand in 30 seconds. Back in the day. Note pipe holders on transom. You slide sch 80 one inch pipes into them to the bottom of the river to hold boat in place. Lower prop and gun it. Also called a Louisiana canal digger. Quick removal of overburden. Go-Devils can be driven up a shoal and idled down till they are sitting still and the prop will wash a hole in the shoal. Very effective and hard to prove illegal.   |
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Post by bushmanbilly on Mar 29, 2016 14:41:31 GMT -5
Nice boat. Looks very stable. All though that motor is something I'm not used to seeing around here.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 29, 2016 16:39:07 GMT -5
Nice boat. Looks very stable. All though that motor is something I'm not used to seeing around here. LOL, ya ani't no redneck bushman |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 29, 2016 16:44:55 GMT -5
Nice boat. Looks very stable. All though that motor is something I'm not used to seeing around here. |
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Post by bushmanbilly on Mar 29, 2016 17:48:44 GMT -5
Tuff motors, looks like fun.
I would never put my boat through this but I know people that have more money than brains. Red Deer River northern Alberta.
This is just plain nuts!!! I would like to see whats left of his impeller.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 31, 2016 6:39:05 GMT -5
Those guys were using a pump Dale.
Pump boats, you can get outboards from Johnson and Yamaha with pump lower ends for layman operation.
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Post by Intheswamp on Mar 31, 2016 7:29:36 GMT -5
I did two things in New Zealand that I'd never done before, haven't done since, and would do both again in a heartbeat. One was bungee jump the Pipeline at Skipper's Canyon and the other was ride a jet boat down the Shotover River (after being lowered into the jet boat by the bungee cord.  ). This is just a promo film for a jet boat excursion company. I've got a video of my bungee jump but I'm not sure how to transport it over to a computer-type file...managed to copy it over from VHS to DVD but haven't went further with it. |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 31, 2016 9:38:05 GMT -5
Intheswamp Some of those boats are running 8 barrels on a mod V8 with 700-800HP. crazy men
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Post by Intheswamp on Mar 31, 2016 15:37:37 GMT -5
Oh yeah, crazies... Gotta love'em!!!!!!
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Post by es355lucille on Apr 1, 2016 1:24:21 GMT -5
Tuff motors, looks like fun. I would never put my boat through this but I know people that have more money than brains. Red Deer River northern Alberta. This is just plain nuts!!! I would like to see whats left of his impeller. Ya those are jet boats. No prop, I see them on the bow river here to bushmanbilly.......the motor has a water intake and propulsion by pushing water out the outtake nozzle......nice boats. Must beat the hell out of the hull of the boat, although it looks like fun to me! |
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Post by bushmanbilly on Apr 1, 2016 2:22:44 GMT -5
Yes James this a jet pump driving that thing. The only thing that is getting hurt on that boat is the impeller. That boat is made by Outlaw Marine in Red Deer AB. That same company that built mine. I don't have all the extra reinforcements like that one has. Mine just has 5 I-beams stringers and a 5/16 6060 aluminum bottom. I have the Bobcat model. Bets and most stable boats I have ever been in. I white knuckled 11 foot waves with mine. Never want to do that again. That boat is the Lynx model and has 7 stringers, 5/16 bottom with 1/8 steel skid plate and 1/2 Teflon plate for added protection. The 9 stringer one,s are built like a tank. About $70,000+ www.outlaweagle.com/outlaw_marine.html1998 18' Bobcat. V6 Vortec with 250hp american turbine jet drive  |
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Post by bushmanbilly on Apr 1, 2016 2:44:37 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Apr 1, 2016 6:22:58 GMT -5
Yes James this a jet pump driving that thing. The only thing that is getting hurt on that boat is the impeller. That boat is made by Outlaw Marine in Red Deer AB. That same company that built mine. I don't have all the extra reinforcements like that one has. Mine just has 5 I-beams stringers and a 5/16 6060 aluminum bottom. I have the Bobcat model. Bets and most stable boats I have ever been in. I white knuckled 11 foot waves with mine. Never want to do that again. That boat is the Lynx model and has 7 stringers, 5/16 bottom with 1/8 steel skid plate and 1/2 Teflon plate for added protection. The 9 stringer one,s are built like a tank. About $70,000+ www.outlaweagle.com/outlaw_marine.html1998 18' Bobcat. V6 Vortec with 250hp american turbine jet drive Never could figure out how they protected the impeller. just a 150 HP jet ski has 1000 pounds of thrust. Tons of gallons per minute to filter. Has to be impossible to have extended impeller life with those big engines sucking abrasive crap off the bottom. Impellers not cheap. Rarely ever see a heavy gauge aluminum boat in the south. See them on TV in NW US and Alaska. About everything down here is fiberglass and light gauge aluminum. Jet engines get plugged up by aquatic vegetation in much of our calm waters. The big Go Devil had 4-5 I-beam stringers and 1/8" soft but puncture resistant aluminum alloy belly skin. it was 1000 pounds of 1/8" aluminum. The big requirement for a go Devil is to be able to sit with it's full weight incl cargo on a sharp rotted off tree top at water level. The same tree tops that fiberglass boats drive up on and get punctured. Impaled till the water rises or a crane comes and lifts them off. Lake Rodman Florida, one of the best bass lakes. Giant tree fields, often sticking several visiting bass boats every weekend. Takes a special boat to be able to drive up on a point source load and not puncture. New understanding of why they use aluminum up your way. The Go Devil is slow but can pull a half mile log chain. Prop is real thick and heavy. Manufacturer will build up the tips of the prop at minimal charge when worn past specs. Long lasting and not finicky, rotates too slow to worry about balance. With that much armor on the hull of your boats the weight must be astronomical. |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 1, 2016 6:29:44 GMT -5
Yes, got to be built like a tank. Total insanity |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 1, 2016 6:53:50 GMT -5
Funny, the discussion we were having about silting rivers with 5 HP gold dredges.
250 HP jet motors pushing 2 ton tanks up shoals have to do a lot more silting.
Super strict Florida turns their head the other way when it comes to boats and their effects on the silting soil, wake on narrow slow flowing river banks, etc.
Because boating is big biz. Just Marion County Florida averages 12 million dollars on glycophosphate to spray aquatic weeds from air boats. Multiply many counties.
Just to keep the water ways open...50,000 acre Lake George would get taken over by floating water hyacinths in a year or two if the did not spray.
The water/fish habitat quality goes up many magnitudes when the hyacinth take over. Me don't care, but I am aware of their hypocrisy.
My neighbors used to pay me to dredge out an underwater canal from their docks out to the lake with the Devil.(lake very shallow at shore, 200-400 foot docks to get to 3 feet depth).
Florida would have owned me and my boat if they caught me. One big storm could fill in my dredging. Hello, storms do 1000 times more silting.
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