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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2016 13:19:14 GMT -5
Seems like most is found in the south half of the US.
Seems like it would grow during a hot age both north and south.
Most of it comes from S Cali Arizona Texas Mississippi Lousiana Bama Forida.
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Same question about Manatees. Tons of Manatee bones in Florida. They go up in Florida springs for warmth during the winter.
Manatee bones elsewhere anyone ?
Aware that sharks teeth are found all over the US.
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Post by toiv0 on Mar 1, 2016 13:42:17 GMT -5
I found a shark tooth in limestone on lake superior, one piece of petrified wood, there is very little for fossils left here as the glatial activity moved it all to Iowa and south. We pulled up mammoth teeth while dredging at 40 ft west of Des Moines. Maybe a MN animal. You would think fossils from further north would have been left here. The last glacier left about 7000 years ago and there were still Mammoths and other animals from that period. Look at the Mammoth they found in central MI last year.
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Post by 70karmann on Mar 1, 2016 14:08:36 GMT -5
I have found petrified palm on the Yellowstone in Montana.
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Post by Mark K on Mar 1, 2016 16:00:53 GMT -5
I found a shark tooth in limestone on lake superior, one piece of petrified wood, there is very little for fossils left here as the glatial activity moved it all to Iowa and south. We pulled up mammoth teeth while dredging at 40 ft west of Des Moines. Maybe a MN animal. You would think fossils from further north would have been left here. The last glacier left about 7000 years ago and there were still Mammoths and other animals from that period. Look at the Mammoth they found in central MI last year. We have oodles of fossils here in Faribault. Even big ones on occasion. |
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Post by Jugglerguy on Mar 1, 2016 16:19:43 GMT -5
I've heard that there is or was petrified palm here in Alpena, Michigan. I've looked for it but have never found any. I spoke to an older rock hound who says that there were logs of it on an island. I'm assuming this would be a limestone fossil though, not good lapidary material.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Mar 1, 2016 16:22:47 GMT -5
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Post by 150FromFundy on Mar 1, 2016 17:08:02 GMT -5
Petrified Wood should be virtually be everywhere in some form, although not as spectacular as in some locations. The Bay of Fundy has the famous Joggins Fossil Cliffs (UNESCO Site) that formed in the Coal Age, 300 million years ago. The Bay also has Ross Creek Jasper which is actually agatized Cycads from the early Jurassic about 200 million years ago. This is old Pet Wood from when the supercontinent Pangaea was breaking up.
The beautiful Arizona Pet Wood from the Holbrook area formed in the late Triassic about 225 million years ago. This is old Pet Wood from before the breakup of the supercontinent Pangaea.
The current location of this material today has little to do with the location or climate that it formed in. Much has changed due to continental drift over the last 200 to 300 million years, which leads me back to "petrified wood should be virtually everywhere".
Can't help with the Manatees, but you did make me curious.
Darryl.
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Post by Fossilman on Mar 1, 2016 17:20:07 GMT -5
Yes,palm wood in Montana...Also tons of fossils in ND and Montana...Plus a few of the bording states too...
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Post by mikeinsjc on Mar 2, 2016 17:43:59 GMT -5
james, I have petrified palm from Wyoming
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Post by jamesp on Mar 2, 2016 18:41:03 GMT -5
OK then, palm is found in the north half. Southern states seem covered up in it. Out west and the north half is sure covered up with wood, but palm seems to be more common in the south half of the US. Maybe not. Palm is state stone of Louisiana, very common in S Cali. and Texas. Mississippi, Alabama, Florida Yes, Jugglerguy, that is surely palm. If it is calcium carbonate based it may be a consideration for your dry tumble with the petosky stones. If it is agatized a regular tumble would be pretty cool. Great find. Curious if manatee and/or dugong bones are found any where else in the US besides Florida. They are very common in Florida. |
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 3, 2016 21:50:33 GMT -5
Yup, Eden Valley , WY has petrified palm for sure, as does South Dakota.....Mel
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Post by txrockhunter on Mar 5, 2016 9:55:58 GMT -5
Palm is state stone of Louisiana, very common in S Cali. and Texas. Mississippi, Alabama, Florida. According to the State Symbols website, palm is the "State Rock" of Texas and the "State Fossil " of Louisiana. At least Louisiana got it right. Louisiana Texas |
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Post by johnjsgems on Mar 5, 2016 13:48:26 GMT -5
The palm was replaced by rock. Texans are never wrong. As far as fossils, I read somewhere they are more plentiful out west because the older mountains in center of US have layered over them over time whereas our mountains are newer.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 5, 2016 21:02:55 GMT -5
Palm is state stone of Louisiana, very common in S Cali. and Texas. Mississippi, Alabama, Florida. According to the State Symbols website, palm is the "State Rock" of Texas and the "State Fossil " of Louisiana. At least Louisiana got it right. Louisiana Texasyes, gets me every time fossil/rock Texas/Louisiana. Get em backwards. |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 5, 2016 21:04:25 GMT -5
The palm was replaced by rock. Texans are never wrong. As far as fossils, I read somewhere they are more plentiful out west because the older mountains in center of US have layered over them over time whereas our mountains are newer. Thanks, never thought about the shuffling of layers. |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 6, 2016 7:09:39 GMT -5
Anyways, jamesp , you asked about manatees. There is the Desmostylus from the Pacific. They have interesting teeth. Those are some funky teeth. In the references of your Desmostylus article amygdule, reference to a sirenian(manatee) fossil in California: "Notice of a new fossil sirenian, from California. - American Journal of Science 25 (8): 94–96. - O. C. Marsh - 1888." Well, that is the first mention of a sirenian fossil I have found occurring in another location from the Florida area. |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 6, 2016 7:19:54 GMT -5
Anyways, jamesp , you asked about manatees. There is the Desmostylus from the Pacific. They have interesting teeth. From Wiki. Marsh 1888 named the type specimen D. hesperus based on a set of isolated teeth that he had found near Mission San Jose, California (type locality: 37.6°N 121.9°W, paleocoordinates 36.8°N 117.6°W).[7] Marsh described his specimen as a sirenian and proposed affinities with Metaxytherium (a genus of extinct dugongs) and Halicore (an obsolete name for dugong).[8] |
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Post by snowmom on Mar 6, 2016 8:04:38 GMT -5
I just remembered this rock that I found. I don't know if it's palm, but it looks sort of like it.    I think this is syringopora, silurian to carboniferous age fossil coral, i've never seen it in red, an awesome find! |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 6, 2016 8:35:35 GMT -5
Corals and palms have 'tubes'. Makes them hard to delineate at times. Great call snowmom and welcome home. Bet you are correct on Rob's stone. Syringopora common at Great Lakes syringopora corals:   |
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Post by Jugglerguy on Mar 6, 2016 8:37:20 GMT -5
That seems more likely, since I found it here. There is supposed to be palm in Squaw Bay and also on Sulhur Island though.
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