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Post by 1dave on Oct 30, 2016 9:51:41 GMT -5
YES! I like this map to aid in identifying where eroded stuff comes from!
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Post by jamesp on Oct 30, 2016 9:56:23 GMT -5
This has to be jasper and not palm. Orbs 360 degrees. ZERO palm tubes. Again,morning sun not doing color justice. Headed to Roberto Martinez 's ranch this morning. 4 miles away from Rio. He wants me to study the rocks on his 500 acres. Met him in the restaraunt. Classic shape of wood. Betting it is some kind of replaced wood. But probably not palm. window of this one Pretty piece of chert and wood with that crazy spray but with color
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Post by jamesp on Oct 30, 2016 9:57:29 GMT -5
Cool map 1dave, has a halloween texture but very informative. Assuming a lot of gradient on the Rio assisting carriage of agates from very far away. I wonder if the caliche here is basically tumbling slurry, fine rock grindings. It has very similar properties of dried slurry. Where does all the fine grindings go that was worn off these pebbles
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 9:58:31 GMT -5
Check out lower right hand corner of 8 pounder @shotgunner I commented on that. Definitely palm there. And a red line if demarkation keeping orbicular and palm separate. Awesome stone with a secret history.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 10:02:07 GMT -5
Meet these guys often Right side = north bound side Not totally sociable The Texas Tortoise (Gopherus berlandieri),a young adult male. Worth $20,000 in Japan.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 30, 2016 10:03:19 GMT -5
Yes. Scott, the replacements and fills here are freaky. Stinkwood-potwood-rot wood-root-black skin. Lots of weird names to describe the mysterious woods here.
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Post by captbob on Oct 30, 2016 10:03:35 GMT -5
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Post by 1dave on Oct 30, 2016 10:04:26 GMT -5
Line between Agate and Jasper is in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 30, 2016 10:05:38 GMT -5
Note from master Texas collector Darwin Dillon. He has been coaching me on Texas.
"Yes, it is native to Texas and can be found from Jasper area, in the east part of the State, all the way, generally following the very old coastline, down into eastern-Mexico. That is why it is the official State Rock of Texas! BTW - almost all of the rocks you are finding comes from old caliche beds, some looking like poured concrete, particularly closer to the Falcon Lake area."
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Post by jamesp on Oct 30, 2016 10:06:22 GMT -5
Line between Agate and Jasper is in the eye of the beholder. Serious agreement on a long term battle.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 30, 2016 10:08:18 GMT -5
That map off the chart Bob. Telling where the agate came from you just collected. We basically covered several states and the slopes of Mexico in a few square miles. Hell, might as well book a few more days. Think I lost 15 pounds. Somebody has to do it.
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Post by captbob on Oct 30, 2016 10:20:51 GMT -5
Just told the wife unit that I should be crossing from Texas into Louisiana right about now on the trip home.
Sure wish I had stayed an extra three days. my bad...
Enjoying all the pictures!
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Post by MrP on Oct 30, 2016 10:42:43 GMT -5
jamesp As usual this is an amazing thread. I watch all your threads, 'Us being 'loooong' lost cousins and all', but also because there is so much to learn from you. You are a great teacher, as many of the Price's I know are, and have the where-with-all to carry an experiment or job to the end. You should be very proud of your accomplishments and what you have taught others. Not everybody are willing to share what they learn because that gives them a knowledge others don't have. From what I see you have very little fear of the unknown and are willing to fail in the process of learning, which gives you a leg up on the people who would rather not 'do' because they could lose.
Now with that being said, I am wondering why I, 'being such a "Close" relative, wasn't' invited on the trip?
Thank You for bringing us along on your trip and being such a great asset to RTH!...........................MrPrice
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Post by barclay on Oct 30, 2016 15:27:26 GMT -5
You posted similar on a field trip you made in Utah some time back 1dave. Lots of reds and yellows. Was always curious how far this Rio stuff came from. Possibly New Mexico. Probably the entire Rio Grande catchment. A la bring them all to south Texas via Rio Grande so we can collect a hodge podge of goulash LOL. Looks like origin as far north as S. Colorado. Drains some serious agate fields. Don't discount the agate rich slopes of Mexico and the 'illegal to collect' Big Bend of Texas. Big Bend looks like 50 Woodward ranches, lots of volcanic formations and shafts. Shame you can not pick up rocks there. I was amazed at the agate in those mountains. Big Bend rugged agate bearing country Why can't you collect rocks in Big Bend Texas?
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Post by captbob on Oct 30, 2016 15:43:58 GMT -5
Federal land.
Four loads of laundry later and I'm ready to pack the truck back up for round two! Threw away 5 or 6 pairs of socks, no way to get the stickers out of them. Shorty socks I could save.
Did a couple tumbler checks & added new grit today. They ran for the 10 days I was gone. Tossed a few of the Rios in that were already shaped by Mother Nature. It's gonna be cheating to tumble some of these rocks as the rough grind has already been done.
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Post by richardh on Oct 30, 2016 17:15:58 GMT -5
I wish I had seen this thread earlier. I spent the weekend with my family doing some birdwatching in south Texas and had lunch at that very McDonalds in Zapata today. I picked up a bag full of rocks along the river but they are probably all junk since I just started rock hounding and don't have a clue yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 20:18:34 GMT -5
Line between Agate and Jasper is in the eye of the beholder. Serious agreement on a long term battle. Donald Kasper of Lancaster CA, places agates in a group of materials containing less than 5% iron content, 5-25% is jasper and anything greater is "ironstone". If you consider the common names used in popular lapidary you will agree this is a very practical (even if not technical) description. One very rarely finds hematite in agates, but commonly in jaspers...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 20:20:00 GMT -5
You posted similar on a field trip you made in Utah some time back 1dave. Lots of reds and yellows. Was always curious how far this Rio stuff came from. Possibly New Mexico. Probably the entire Rio Grande catchment. A la bring them all to south Texas via Rio Grande so we can collect a hodge podge of goulash LOL. Looks like origin as far north as S. Colorado. Drains some serious agate fields. Don't discount the agate rich slopes of Mexico and the 'illegal to collect' Big Bend of Texas. Big Bend looks like 50 Woodward ranches, lots of volcanic formations and shafts. Shame you can not pick up rocks there. I was amazed at the agate in those mountains. Big Bend rugged agate bearing country Why can't you collect rocks in Big Bend Texas? Big Bend is National Monument Park. Thanks richardh!!!
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Post by richardh on Oct 30, 2016 20:29:21 GMT -5
Why can't you collect rocks in Big Bend Texas? Big Bend is National Monument. National Park
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 20:49:13 GMT -5
Federal land. Four loads of laundry later and I'm ready to pack the truck back up for round two! Threw away 5 or 6 pairs of socks, no way to get the stickers out of them. Shorty socks I could save. Did a couple tumbler checks & added new grit today. They ran for the 10 days I was gone. Tossed a few of the Rios in that were already shaped by Mother Nature. It's gonna be cheating to tumble some of these rocks as the rough grind has already been done. Heading back? Envious, but happy you had such an awesome trip! Congrats!
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