jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jan 9, 2017 23:37:10 GMT -5
A walk-in fire box. Gracious. Burns one forest/year.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 9, 2017 23:39:03 GMT -5
I don't have pictures but I use a small freestanding glass door woodstove that sits in the living room . Heats my small one story real well with a couple fans to move the air around . Also have an outside wood boiler that is piped into the house , heats the domestic water also , then it goes out to my garage and from there , to my shop and back to the furnace . Had a 400 gal one til it crapped out , the one I have now is only 130 gal . Does the job as good as the big one did . Sounds like wigglin got it dialed in. Primary heat source ?
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 10, 2017 0:00:38 GMT -5
I don't have pictures but I use a small freestanding glass door woodstove that sits in the living room . Heats my small one story real well with a couple fans to move the air around . Also have an outside wood boiler that is piped into the house , heats the domestic water also , then it goes out to my garage and from there , to my shop and back to the furnace . Had a 400 gal one til it crapped out , the one I have now is only 130 gal . Does the job as good as the big one did . Sounds like wigglin got it dialed in. Primary heat source ? That is my primary heat source . I use about 7-8 logger cord to heat everything . The garage gets heat when I turn on the blower , stays pretty cold most the time . Shop is better insulated so I have that on a thermostat set at 50 when I am not working out there . I burn the outside cooker all summer to heat the water in the house , couple blocks of wood a day cut electric bill 25-30 bucks
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jan 10, 2017 0:39:03 GMT -5
No joke wigglinrocks. Year round hot water. Do you have to re-light the wood daily on that summer burn ?
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 10, 2017 1:02:48 GMT -5
No joke wigglinrocks . Year round hot water. Do you have to re-light the wood daily on that summer burn ? No joke at all . No , if we keep a good bed of coals , it stays going . In the summer we have to use pretty dry wood though , usually keep a bunch of dead rotten stuff for warmer weather . Deader the better , as long as it hasn't been laying out in the weather getting water logged . Try to keep it all under cover . Winter I burn a lot of fresh cut wood when it gets real cold , -0 cold , I loaded up with wood I cut today . All fresh green wood . Didn't need green tonight , thought it was going to get colder , midnight and it is +24 and rising .
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Post by jamesp on Jan 10, 2017 1:13:32 GMT -5
No joke wigglinrocks . Year round hot water. Do you have to re-light the wood daily on that summer burn ? No joke at all . No , if we keep a good bed of coals , it stays going . In the summer we have to use pretty dry wood though , usually keep a bunch of dead rotten stuff for warmer weather . Deader the better , as long as it hasn't been laying out in the weather getting water logged . Try to keep it all under cover . Winter I burn a lot of fresh cut wood when it gets real cold , -0 cold , I loaded up with wood I cut today . All fresh green wood . Didn't need green tonight , thought it was going to get colder , midnight and it is +24 and rising . Nice when a stove holds coals 24 hours so no re-light is needed.
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Post by panamark on Jan 10, 2017 21:43:36 GMT -5
Where were you collecting sap at Mark ? It gets dry in winters here in the south. Not uncommon to steam off 3 gallons of water per day in a pot. This was when I was living in the northern part of the lower peninsula of Michigan. Lots of red maple with some sugars thrown in. It was interesting to see the sap flow change throughout the day. Trees are pretty active actually. And capillary action is great too :[) I am amazed that it is dry down in Georgia in the winter. Sure seems sticky in the summer. Not dry like Idaho though were we sometimes get 6 to 8 % humidity. Not like Panama either where it is 110% humidity - we just got 8 inches of rain in the last 30 hours (not too unusual). When it rains like that you can actually see and feel the fresh water layer on top of the ocean when you swim. Average rainfall here is 11.5 feet (of rain!). And where we live in Idaho the avg rainfall is about 8 inches. Contrasting climates for sure.
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Post by toiv0 on Jan 10, 2017 22:22:06 GMT -5
109-19 = 90F difference Pat. That is a big spread. However, Atlanta, 106F-2F = 104F. Atlanta may have SJ beat on the spread. ...and on the extremes. This area lowest temp recorded unofficial -64 and 104 for extreme which is 168 degree temp swing. Some years it won't hit 80 for a high but in the last few years we have had very little below -30.
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Post by toiv0 on Jan 10, 2017 22:26:55 GMT -5
No joke at all . No , if we keep a good bed of coals , it stays going . In the summer we have to use pretty dry wood though , usually keep a bunch of dead rotten stuff for warmer weather . Deader the better , as long as it hasn't been laying out in the weather getting water logged . Try to keep it all under cover . Winter I burn a lot of fresh cut wood when it gets real cold , -0 cold , I loaded up with wood I cut today . All fresh green wood . Didn't need green tonight , thought it was going to get colder , midnight and it is +24 and rising . Nice when a stove holds coals 24 hours so no re-light is needed. When I worked in Dubai the water storage was either on the roof or under the driveway. When you went to take a shower you used only cold water and it got too hot if you didn't shut it off while lathering up. No way to temper the water just hot and hotter. We had the domestic coil in our outdoor heater at the greenhouse in MN also, again you had to be careful, you always cranked the cold water on more during your shower. Summer hot water with 500 gal boiler you could just burn junk wood and garbage.
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jan 10, 2017 22:37:47 GMT -5
Nice when a stove holds coals 24 hours so no re-light is needed. When I worked in Dubai the water storage was either on the roof or under the driveway. When you went to take a shower you used only cold water and it got too hot if you didn't shut it off while lathering up. No way to temper the water just hot and hotter. We had the domestic coil in our outdoor heater at the greenhouse in MN also, again you had to be careful, you always cranked the cold water on more during your shower. Summer hot water with 500 gal boiler you could just burn junk wood and garbage. I never put in a tempering valve , which would tame down the temp , it sure is nice to have real hot water when you want it . Yes , you do have to be careful washing hands or in the shower .
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Post by toiv0 on Jan 11, 2017 0:32:56 GMT -5
Mr. ChicagoDave, I love the old stove, probably have to worry about the chimney more than the old iron. Doesn't look like a lot to catch fire where it is. Old chimneys are another story, maybe reline it. I have seen stainless inserts. Nothing like a wood heat.
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Post by toiv0 on Jan 11, 2017 0:36:26 GMT -5
My old boss was remodeling one of his rentals and was showing me around. He had a crew tearing apart an old furnace in the basement. I asked if I could have the nickel and cast hardware. He said sure no problem. I went on ebay and told him just the cast door was selling for 400 dollars plus and he decided he was going to rebuild the old beast at some point and I never got the goods. I would rather see it rebuilt than hanging on the outside of my rail car.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 11, 2017 9:32:27 GMT -5
This is in the basement of our 100 year old house. The inspector urged us not to try it out and possibly kill everyone in the house That jewel is artwork Dave. Second what toiv0 says about the flue, but that oldie would be renovated if it were in this basement. They used mica for windows in some of those old stoves. Hoping someone would post an old classic like this.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 11, 2017 9:40:30 GMT -5
This area lowest temp recorded unofficial -64 and 104 for extreme which is 168 degree temp swing. Some years it won't hit 80 for a high but in the last few years we have had very little below -30. brrrrr, too too cold. 168F !!!! Not good for man nor beast.
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Post by ChicagoDave on Jan 11, 2017 9:53:02 GMT -5
jamesp, I do believe the windows are made of mica. But it is very brittle at this point. I was thinking about restoring it, but the whole back side is rusted thru. You can see the tin work wrapped around the right side. The chimney is fine since this is what our boiler vents into. And I guess I didn't quite follow the spirit of this post since this was for burning coal. There was a large window at ground level nearby. Small "room" built around it to contain the coal delivery. Never seen a room so black. Even with a good respirator, I was blowing black junk for a few days when we took that down! I still might take off the shiny bits and give them a polish, but I've been restoring the rest of the house for the past 8 years. Mostly done, but out of money and desire!
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Post by jamesp on Jan 11, 2017 9:55:21 GMT -5
Where were you collecting sap at Mark ? It gets dry in winters here in the south. Not uncommon to steam off 3 gallons of water per day in a pot. This was when I was living in the northern part of the lower peninsula of Michigan. Lots of red maple with some sugars thrown in. It was interesting to see the sap flow change throughout the day. Trees are pretty active actually. And capillary action is great too :[) I am amazed that it is dry down in Georgia in the winter. Sure seems sticky in the summer. Not dry like Idaho though were we sometimes get 6 to 8 % humidity. Not like Panama either where it is 110% humidity - we just got 8 inches of rain in the last 30 hours (not too unusual). When it rains like that you can actually see and feel the fresh water layer on top of the ocean when you swim. Average rainfall here is 11.5 feet (of rain!). And where we live in Idaho the avg rainfall is about 8 inches. Contrasting climates for sure. 11 feet of rain, that is like 135 inches. Georgia good for 48. Lots of rain. Trees are active. In the summer my creeks about stop flowing in afternoon heat. The trees drink heavily in the heat of the day. In the morning they are back flowing. Trees use a lot of water. Sap is active. Red maples crank out plenty of sugar for syrup so I hear. Rarely 6-8%, that would turn us into powder. I guess we need humidity to feel comfortable. They planted Australian pines in the Everglades to assist drying them out back in the day. A regret, that tree is bad about spreading by seed I believe. They have been destroying it for years trying to eradicate it.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 11, 2017 10:02:41 GMT -5
jamesp, I do believe the windows are made of mica. But it is very brittle at this point. I was thinking about restoring it, but the whole back side is rusted thru. You can see the tin work wrapped around the right side. The chimney is fine since this is what our boiler vents into. And I guess I didn't quite follow the spirit of this post since this was for burning coal. There was a large window at ground level nearby. Small "room" built around it to contain the coal delivery. Never seen a room so black. Even with a good respirator, I was blowing black junk for a few days when we took that down! I still might take off the shiny bits and give them a polish, but I've been restoring the rest of the house for the past 8 years. Mostly done, but out of money and desire! I was curious if the silver looking section had burnt/rusted thru. Yea, coal is one dirty substance. Burns totally hot. I get it. You have the space cleaned out, leave it be. That stove is a piece of America. Fits this thread perfectly. Restoring ? About easier to build a new one. Ha, it is the hardest and most challenging task.
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Post by spiritstone on Jan 11, 2017 20:55:05 GMT -5
I have one in my shop not used much anymore. By the time it takes to fire it up and warm the area. I find it quicker just to use a old NG single burner stove. Quick to produce heat and I dont have to keep stoking the fire. My wife build lights mostly sitting at a shop bench. I bought this el cheapo radiant heater and mounted it on ceiling above her. Instant heat. Love this thing. Perfect to put over a jeweler's or cabber's bench. Slams heat right down on you. Gimme that Fisher stove Put on some Mukluks and come and get it. Haha. The air has a slight bite to it so dress for it. Today! That is a hwy in front of me when stopped.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 12, 2017 5:12:08 GMT -5
When you rolled the window down frost bite set in in 20 seconds. I almost died. And it froze my screen. That is a far cry from the weekend I spent in Kamloops in July @spriritstone. Still got chill bumps, turning on the hot water in the shower.
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