azdriver
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Post by azdriver on Feb 11, 2017 22:20:03 GMT -5
Along with rock tumbling, which is fairly recent, I have always loved finding artifacts. These were found in a super secret spot in a mega store parking lot. Not sure what tribe these could belong to as there are a few in the area. If anyone knows what these were used for let me know. Also if this thread could get moved I would appreciate it. LOL
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Post by accidentalrockhound on Feb 12, 2017 15:46:36 GMT -5
Nice little find's would they be considered bird points because they are so small?
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azdriver
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Post by azdriver on Feb 12, 2017 16:25:08 GMT -5
Nice little find's would they be considered bird points because they are so small? That's what I am wondering, I have heard a few things from different people.
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 13, 2017 20:55:29 GMT -5
Nice! Bird points as a category are actually a misnomer. Most of what folks call bird points are just regular arrowheads. Amerinds used very light shafts a lot of the time, especially in the west and desert regions, so points had to be tiny and light for the arrow to fly properly. Most the local examples here in Texas are often called arrowheads but are actually atlatl dart points as they would be too heavy for an arrow shaft, unless the Amerind just wanted too lob it into the dirt.....Mel
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 21:40:38 GMT -5
Nice! Bird points as a category are actually a misnomer. Most of what folks call bird points are just regular arrowheads. Amerinds used very light shafts a lot of the time, especially in the west and desert regions, so points had to be tiny and light for the arrow to fly properly. Most the local examples here in Texas are often called arrowheads but are actually atlatl dart points as they would be too heavy for an arrow shaft, unless the Amerind just wanted too lob it into the dirt.....Mel What did they use for bow material? Totally ignorant here and embarrassed about it.
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 14, 2017 10:26:52 GMT -5
Nice little points too,usually don't find them in one piece like that! SCORE!
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Post by pghram on Feb 16, 2017 19:12:17 GMT -5
Nice finds!
Peace,
Rich
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 16, 2017 19:37:33 GMT -5
Scott, I've seen Paiute and California Amerind bows and they were almost like child's toys, simple, sinew wrapped and only about three feet long. Not compound or recurved and I'm not sure what the wood was. The arrows were mostly reeds with a wood forend. In California, a lot of the points were small, barbed and poisoned for warfare.
Osage Orange was popular in the plains and makes strong bows. The Karankawa, a Texas tribe, were huge Amerinds and used longbows as long as six feet or more. Those could probably drive a pretty large arrowhead but the bow and arrow didn't even appear in Texas till something like 700AD, so most larger Texas points were used on the atl atl....Mel
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 17, 2017 10:57:03 GMT -5
I have some Osage Orange wood sent to me from Ohio,beautiful looking wood.....Have a shaft made from the same wood,on a spear point,in my collection... Tough stuff!!!!
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