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Post by Fossilman on Jul 10, 2017 8:52:07 GMT -5
Now that is an awesome stone!!
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jul 10, 2017 9:39:44 GMT -5
I would be doin some head scratching trying to figure out how to get that one home .
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Post by Win on Jul 10, 2017 10:10:55 GMT -5
I would be doin some head scratching trying to figure out how to get that one home . We did, I think we went back a few times. It's been a few years, a few flash floods, maybe it moved closer to the area we park! |
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jul 10, 2017 10:15:49 GMT -5
I would be doin some head scratching trying to figure out how to get that one home . We did, I think we went back a few times. It's been a few years, a few flash floods, maybe it moved closer to the area we park! Big chunk of conglomerate in one of the local gravel pits that I have thought about hauling home . I could get the loader operator to load it , but then what . Thinking close to a ton . Our stuff is ugly dark brown anyway . |
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 10, 2017 10:24:36 GMT -5
That looks like one of jamesp ,just out of coarse grind, Rio's Don't let him see it or he'll build a tumbler for it in situ. Really cool yard rock though. 3000 pounds? |
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 10, 2017 10:27:17 GMT -5
WinWhat are the rough dimensions for calculating it's weight? Someone here can probably give you ideas of how to do something about getting it home. How close can you get a trailer or truck? . Fun and pretty yard rock for sure. Bet lots of folks have seen that beauty.
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Post by Win on Jul 10, 2017 11:10:15 GMT -5
Win What are the rough dimensions for calculating it's weight? Someone here can probably give you ideas of how to do something about getting it home. How close can you get a trailer or truck? . Fun and pretty yard rock for sure. Bet lots of folks have seen that beauty. It's across a river from where we park, pretty rough terrain. Not sure if it's where we last saw it, it's 100+ so I'm not going back until it cools off. I'd love to have it but it's not going to happen, probably take a front end loader to reach it, too rough for a Bobcat. We've never seen anyone else there but I know people know about the area. |
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 10, 2017 11:45:53 GMT -5
Win What are the rough dimensions for calculating it's weight? Someone here can probably give you ideas of how to do something about getting it home. How close can you get a trailer or truck? . Fun and pretty yard rock for sure. Bet lots of folks have seen that beauty. It's across a river from where we park, pretty rough terrain. Not sure if it's where we last saw it, it's 100+ so I'm not going back until it cools off. I'd love to have it but it's not going to happen, probably take a front end loader to reach it, too rough for a Bobcat. We've never seen anyone else there but I know people know about the area. HAve you ever seen a nursery ball cart? A large dolly looking thing that has large rubber tires and carries balled trees weighing 3-400 pounds? Larger nurseries have them. MAybe if you can get close enough, ground frozen then tie a rope to the cart and back up pulling the ball cart> Just a though. Great looking rock. Would look awesome at you guy's place. Might could rent or borrow one... Win
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jul 10, 2017 11:48:49 GMT -5
Win What are the rough dimensions for calculating it's weight? Someone here can probably give you ideas of how to do something about getting it home. How close can you get a trailer or truck? . Fun and pretty yard rock for sure. Bet lots of folks have seen that beauty. A cubic yard of wet concrete is something like 4400 pounds . |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 10, 2017 12:30:17 GMT -5
Utah's Dixie- is this a town ?
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 10, 2017 12:33:41 GMT -5
Win What are the rough dimensions for calculating it's weight? Someone here can probably give you ideas of how to do something about getting it home. How close can you get a trailer or truck? . Fun and pretty yard rock for sure. Bet lots of folks have seen that beauty. A cubic yard of wet concrete is something like 4400 pounds . Yep close to that. I poured thousands of yards of mud in my life and that's heavy stuff. COuple tons per yeard for sure. No voids wither like gravel. Gravel weighs 2500-3000 pounds. Be nice to have a close approx. for weight. Have rocks in my collection, not yard rocks, that weigh a couple hundred pounds. But I have a forklift and that helps. Just cant get it in the house. hehehe Wish we had something to see the scale. I always thught about a set of gin poles to raise something like that and drop it into the truck or trailer. MAybe some type of mechanics lift mounted on a pintle like diesel mechanic have. jamesp Jim would have a good idea or 3.
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 10, 2017 12:37:06 GMT -5
Utah's Dixie- is this a town ? Dixie NAtional Forest Nice area, unique and pretty.....The Dixie National Forest, with headquarters in Cedar City, Utah, occupies almost two million acres and stretches for about 170 miles across southern Utah. It straddles the divide between the Great Basin and the Colorado River.
Elevations vary from 2,800 feet near St. George, Utah to 11,322 feet at Blue Bell Knoll on Boulder Mountain. The southern rim of the Great Basin, near the Colorado River, provides spectacular scenery. Colorado River canyons are made up of many-colored cliffs and steep-walled gorges.
The Forest is divided into four geographic areas. High altitude forests in gently rolling hills characterize the Markagunt, Pansaugunt, and Aquarius Plateaus. Boulder Mountain, one of the largest high-elevation plateaus in the United States, is dotted with hundreds of small lakes 10,000 to 11,000 feet above sea level.
Utah's Dixie is the nickname for primarily the populated, lower elevation area of south-central Washington County in southwestern Utah. Its climate is very mild when compared to the rest of Utah, and typical of the Mojave Desert, in which it lies. Situated below the Black Ridge and the Hurricane Cliffs, in the northeastern edge of the Mojave Desert. It was part of Mexico and settled by the Southern Paiutes. It was first inhabited by Mormon settlers in 1854, as part of Brigham Young's efforts to establish an Indian Mission in the region.[1] The settlers began growing cotton and other temperate cash crops during the later 1850s on land that had fed the Paiute. The Paiute population was decimated as a result of starvation and disease.[2][3] The largest community in the region, St. George, was founded in 1861,[4] when Brigham Young selected 300 families to take over the area and grow cotton, grapes, and other crops.[4]:3 The region was nicknamed Dixie by 1860.
Andrew Larson’s [5] text on the history of the name “Dixie” in Utah states that the first President of the Washington Stake in 1857, was Robert Dockery Covington, a slave overseer and slave owner from North Carolina and Mississippi. Larson states:
Already the settled area of the Virgin Valley was being called Utah’s “Dixie.” The fact that cotton would grow there, as well as tobacco and other semi-tropical plants such as the South produced made it easy for the name to stick. The fact that the settlers at Washington were bona fide Southerners who were steeped in the lore of cotton culture—many of them, at least—clinched the title. Dixie it became, and Dixie it remained. ... The name “Dixie” is one of those distinctive things about this part of Utah ... It is a proud title
— Andrew Larson, I Was Called to “Dixie” (p. 185) [Emphasis in original]
Whatever the real origins of the term, the Cotton Mission didn't work out as well as Young had hoped – yields in the test fields were not as high as expected, and economic viability of growing cotton was never achieved, although a cotton mill was built and used for a few years in the town of Washington.[6]
The largest city in the area is St. George with its metropolitan area of nearly 150,000 residents.[citation needed]
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Post by wigglinrocks on Jul 10, 2017 12:40:00 GMT -5
A cubic yard of wet concrete is something like 4400 pounds . Yep close to that. I poured thousands of yards of mud in my life and that's heavy stuff. COuple tons per yeard for sure. No voids wither like gravel. Gravel weighs 2500-3000 pounds. Be nice to have a close approx. for weight. Have rocks in my collection, not yard rocks, that weigh a couple hundred pounds. But I have a forklift and that helps. Just cant get it in the house. hehehe Wish we had something to see the scale. I always thught about a set of gin poles to raise something like that and drop it into the truck or trailer. MAybe some type of mechanics lift mounted on a pintle like diesel mechanic have. jamesp Jim would have a good idea or 3.
Ditto the having poured thousands of concrete , worked in concrete for almost 20 years . Could explain why the body is older than it should be . |
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 10, 2017 12:48:56 GMT -5
Yep close to that. I poured thousands of yards of mud in my life and that's heavy stuff. COuple tons per yeard for sure. No voids wither like gravel. Gravel weighs 2500-3000 pounds. Be nice to have a close approx. for weight. Have rocks in my collection, not yard rocks, that weigh a couple hundred pounds. But I have a forklift and that helps. Just cant get it in the house. hehehe Wish we had something to see the scale. I always thught about a set of gin poles to raise something like that and drop it into the truck or trailer. MAybe some type of mechanics lift mounted on a pintle like diesel mechanic have. jamesp Jim would have a good idea or 3.
Ditto the having poured thousands of concrete , worked in concrete for almost 20 years . Could explain why the body is older than it should be . Wrists , knees and back . Body worn but am still strong and ready for the world. Darn knee is my problem and it wasn't caused by work. Do all my own flat work still. Lots of sidewalks in a 5 acre nursery and the store part.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 10, 2017 12:49:07 GMT -5
Hell's bell's, a piece of Dixie up in Utah. go figure. Thanks for the read coloradocliff. Pray tell they don't talk like us. SW corner  |
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 10, 2017 12:52:31 GMT -5
Hell's bell's, a piece of Dixie up in Utah. go figure. Thanks for the read coloradocliff . Pray tell they don't talk like us. Yep Hope I can talk to you without an interpreter when I come to trade you stuff for some of that heat treated coral for display specimens. Didn't know the history till I just googled it but sure like that area of Utah. Close to a lot of rock and pretty places. Need to escape the heat and humidity for a couple weeks. Fly out and will loan you a vehicle and a home base to stay in Colorado jamesp
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Post by Win on Jul 10, 2017 12:53:07 GMT -5
^^^^^ Very nice write up, thanks.
I live in the town of Toquerville, about 25 miles from St George. We did a lot of hiking when we moved to Utah 12 years ago, in 2012 we totaled a Wrangler and it's slowed us down, I'm 73. My wife is always poking the ground as she hikes and just picks up fun rocks. We have a good collection of non-agatized PW and Agate from the Brianhead area. This particular rock fascinated us, where did it tumble from, how many miles, years? Like I said, it would take a backhoe to get it. I'll measure it when I go in the Fall.
I frequent the Dixie National Forest quite a bit, so many different units to explore. My Summer fun was cut into by the Brianhead fire, burned 70,000 acres of Dixie N.F. "Forced" me to go to Milford on Saturday for a load of Obsidian, very hot! Next trip will be to an area of PW for smaller pieces to tumble. I'm hooked!
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Post by jamesp on Jul 10, 2017 12:57:51 GMT -5
Hell's bell's, a piece of Dixie up in Utah. go figure. Thanks for the read coloradocliff . Pray tell they don't talk like us. Yep Hope I can talk to you without an interpreter when I come to trade you stuff for some of that heat treated coral for display specimens. Didn't know the history till I just googled it but sure like that area of Utah. Close to a lot of rock and pretty places. Need to escape the heat and humidity for a couple weeks. Fly out and will loan you a vehicle and a home base to stay in Colorado jamesp
We'd end up in jail. We could always use the dialecticizer for a interpreter. Your Text, Dialectized (redneck) ]Yep Hope ah can talk t'yo' wifout an interpreter when ah come t'trade yo' stuff fo' some of thet heat treated co'al fo' display specimens. [/p] Didn't knows th' histo'y till ah jest googled it but sho'nuff like thet area of Utah. Close t'a lot of rock an' purdy places. Need t'excape th' heat an' hoomidity fo' a couple weeks. Fly out an' will loan yo' a vehicle an' a home base t'stay in Colorado
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Post by coloradocliff on Jul 10, 2017 13:54:42 GMT -5
Yep Hope I can talk to you without an interpreter when I come to trade you stuff for some of that heat treated coral for display specimens. Didn't know the history till I just googled it but sure like that area of Utah. Close to a lot of rock and pretty places. Need to escape the heat and humidity for a couple weeks. Fly out and will loan you a vehicle and a home base to stay in Colorado jamesp
We'd end up in jail. We could always use the dialecticizer for a interpreter. Your Text, Dialectized (redneck) ]Yep Hope ah can talk t'yo' wifout an interpreter when ah come t'trade yo' stuff fo' some of thet heat treated co'al fo' display specimens. [/p] Didn't knows th' histo'y till ah jest googled it but sho'nuff like thet area of Utah. Close t'a lot of rock an' purdy places. Need t'excape th' heat an' hoomidity fo' a couple weeks. Fly out an' will loan yo' a vehicle an' a home base t'stay in Colorado
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You make being in jail sound like its bad or something. Grin LMAO at the translation. Besides I speak mostly Spanish during the day and have a French accent. grin I usualy try to draw a picture for someone or point and grunt.Gets you a beer generally and face slapped by bar maids a lot. I just turn the other cheek.. Less red on that side. Perro si necita ayuda. Yo soy su hombre.
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