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Post by grayfingers on Aug 2, 2017 9:26:52 GMT -5
Amazing photos, James! Would be great for a close up of a group of things at slightly different distances.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2017 5:25:26 GMT -5
Amazing photos, James! Would be great for a close up of a group of things at slightly different distances. Would work well Bill. Still subjects with lots of depth of focus are a click away. A group at varying distances will be on agenda. What is odd is that the camera stitches together a hand held shot darn well. Operator error stitched back together from frame to frame. No doubt the camera is shaking in some of those images before being averaged. Sorta simulating a slight action shot. There must be some serious smart 'processing' in the integrated chip. Similar stitching technology on panoramic shots where you take 3 shots in 3 different directions and the camera stitches together the 3 shots. The panorama function is similar to this stacking technology in stitching digital images together at the seams. A semi conductor chip can do some serious fast calculations. They are making them so small the electrons have short paths. They are also layering the semiconductors so the calculation paths are even shorter, basically a 3 dimensional circuit card laminated to reduce electron travel distance. Photo stacking is a perfect application for an IC chip. Fourier math is serious number crunch. Digital pixels each have color and brightness mathematical values. Values assignable to wicked complicated equations. Calculation rates probably in million-billions-trillions per second. This is the technology of the future digital camera. High speed inflow ram memory cards with high storage levels for burst and sequencing photography is the new target. Digital light receivers are getting more sensitive and able to receive higher pixel density. And once these semiconductors have been developed they will be incorporated in the cheapest of cameras.(like panorama) Cheaper, more compact, and then will continually improve on the concept. Perhaps action shots can be stitched together for deeper focus one day. Believe we are in the infancy stage at this point. |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2017 5:35:40 GMT -5
And to add, digital receivers are getting smaller. Meaning lenses can get smaller and thinner. Allowing less light blockage. Smaller lightweight cameras. Cheaper, but high performance. Look at the tiny lenses in a S8 Samsung cell phone. Killer photos. Cell phone is a lucrative device. Lots of money pouring in to their technology. Lots of technological focus on the built in tiny camera of cell phones. A fine camera that is 3/8" long ?? 1/2" diameter....Large demand for high performing cell phone camera. I doubt the bulky DSLR as we know it will be around much longer. Big expensive lenses with big chunks of high grade glass will not be needed. May go this way. Perhaps cell phones with precision lens mounts. It is difficult to find these cell lenses for more than $50. That is like an 18X telephoto, no one wants to buy that for a DSLR. $31 @ Amazon. These guys are not playing. www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01C56PD76/ezvid02-20 History of lenses: It was these single-element lenses that adorned the first cameras developed in the 19th century. Crude as they were, the lenses produced a lot of artifacts, as well as a significant amount of field distortion. By the late 1800s, however, photographers and lens manufacturers had begun to combine lens elements to cut down on distortion and to create clearer images that allowed more light to pass onto the exposure surface. Fast forward another century, and the cell phone age is in full swing. Right there alongside it, the digital photography revolution roils on, and before long the two worlds collide, as several phone manufacturers integrate simple cameras into their cell phone bodies. It starts out seeming like a novelty, but by the time the first iPhones hit shelves in 2007, phone cameras begin to look like serious contenders among casual photographers. The camera industry responded by trying to make everything about their systems smaller, going so far as to do away with the reflex mirror in their most expensive and prestigious models, with Canon and Nikon notably holding out against the tide. They'll come around, eventually, but by then everybody will have a good phone and a better set of lenses like these for it. |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2017 6:10:09 GMT -5
"You've definitely fueled my curiosity / OCD (heavy on the O)! I've taken 3,833 photos in the past 4 days, experimenting with subjects, lighting, settings, and now processing." 3833 ? txrockhunter, worried about you. You mentioned the OCD, first step is recognition. Next step is healing and therapy. At least you are not down the street in the local watering hole. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 13:24:38 GMT -5
"You've definitely fueled my curiosity / OCD (heavy on the O)! I've taken 3,833 photos in the past 4 days, experimenting with subjects, lighting, settings, and now processing." 3833 ? txrockhunter, worried about you. You mentioned the OCD, first step is recognition. Next step is healing and therapy. At least you are not down the street in the local watering hole. He has a rule. 1000 images a day, or no bourbon at bedtime. He missed on day 4.  |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 3, 2017 14:29:16 GMT -5
"You've definitely fueled my curiosity / OCD (heavy on the O)! I've taken 3,833 photos in the past 4 days, experimenting with subjects, lighting, settings, and now processing." 3833 ? txrockhunter, worried about you. You mentioned the OCD, first step is recognition. Next step is healing and therapy. At least you are not down the street in the local watering hole. He has a rule. 1000 images a day, or no bourbon at bedtime. He missed on day 4. He needs a group session. Get on em' Scott. AND he has been slacking on the tumbling and Jacinto collecting. Most would can the photography for the Jacinto treasures. I sure nuff would. |
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Post by txrockhunter on Aug 3, 2017 15:46:20 GMT -5
"You've definitely fueled my curiosity / OCD (heavy on the O)! I've taken 3,833 photos in the past 4 days, experimenting with subjects, lighting, settings, and now processing." 3833 ? txrockhunter , worried about you. You mentioned the OCD, first step is recognition. Next step is healing and therapy. At least you are not down the street in the local watering hole. Well if you're averaging 30 pictures per shot/stack, your only talking about 128 shots (stacked pictures), over 4 days. The processing is the time suck, especially when you're not very good at it! Here's a couple stacks from the batch. Photos are between 25 & 30 shots and averaged 4-5 seconds to get the group. Consistent lighting is still the biggest obstacle. With lower lighting and higher ISO to compensate, some of the pictures are a little grainy. #4 was illuminated with a flashlight as an experiment. Might have to play with the white balance next time. 1. 
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Post by txrockhunter on Aug 3, 2017 16:03:16 GMT -5
"You've definitely fueled my curiosity / OCD (heavy on the O)! I've taken 3,833 photos in the past 4 days, experimenting with subjects, lighting, settings, and now processing." 3833 ? txrockhunter , worried about you. You mentioned the OCD, first step is recognition. Next step is healing and therapy. At least you are not down the street in the local watering hole. He has a rule. 1000 images a day, or no bourbon at bedtime. He missed on day 4. I think my memory card filled up early on day 4....... I've been on a tequila on the rocks kick, recently. Nice change of pace! |
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Post by txrockhunter on Aug 3, 2017 16:16:39 GMT -5
He has a rule. 1000 images a day, or no bourbon at bedtime. He missed on day 4. He needs a group session. Get on em' Scott. AND he has been slacking on the tumbling and Jacinto collecting. Most would can the photography for the Jacinto treasures. I sure nuff would. I probably do need group Help! It's really sad that I've finished 2 batches of rocks and have zero pictures to show for it! I tried to take some photos with the new camera and hated the results. I tried different lighting, angles, camera settings, etc. and never found anything that I was satisfied with! I need to go back and read Garage Rocker's thread on lighting setup. I'm not gonna be able to pick up any strobes for a while, so Hope I can find some sort of solution! I won't be ditching rocks or photography, just need to find a balance! |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 4, 2017 19:51:18 GMT -5
extraordinary, your justified with shots like this |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 22:41:32 GMT -5
extraordinary, your justified with shots like this Yes. I agree. That image is pure art. Totally amazing. Gorgeous defined. Nature personified. Wow!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 22:46:02 GMT -5
I've been holding various cameras for 35 years. Worked for a pro downtown LA for 1.5 years. Spent entire paychecks on top quality gear. That image is well beyond any expectations I have ever had in my entire adult life. That image wasn't even possible until, what?, The last 2 years? Now I have a major decision. A) buy more gear. Or B) burn all my gear and quit. Jeremy, I'm humbled. Well done txrockhunter |
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Post by txrockhunter on Aug 5, 2017 11:44:20 GMT -5
I've been holding various cameras for 35 years. Worked for a pro downtown LA for 1.5 years. Spent entire paychecks on top quality gear. That image is well beyond any expectations I have ever had in my entire adult life. That image wasn't even possible until, what?, The last 2 years? Now I have a major decision. A) buy more gear. Or B) burn all my gear and quit. Jeremy, I'm humbled. Well done txrockhunter Holy Crap! Not sure it deserves all that, but now I the humbled one! That means a great deal, coming from you! As I am finding out, the advancement of equipment and photo rendering software has made it much easier for novices to produce higher quality photos. Getting to be like Autotune for singers. 25 years ago you had to develop your film to see if you had the right settings for the shot. Now you have a full color LCD screen that gives you immediate feedback. Much more skill involved back in the day. "A" is the more rational choice and I don't think you'll need much! Thanks, again Scott! |
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Post by Garage Rocker on Aug 6, 2017 1:44:37 GMT -5
Your photography and my new projector put the Mack in macro. Of course, I had to wait until the kids went to bed before I looked to see what your bugs were up to.  txrockhunter |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 6, 2017 6:51:52 GMT -5
Your photography and my new projector put the Mack in macro. Of course, I had to wait until the kids went to bed before I looked to see what your bugs were up to. Projector ? What is this device about ? |
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Post by Garage Rocker on Aug 6, 2017 7:19:20 GMT -5
Your photography and my new projector put the Mack in macro. Of course, I had to wait until the kids went to bed before I looked to see what your bugs were up to.  Projector ? What is this device about ? Put those reading glasses down, don't need them with an 11.5' viewing area. Jeremy's pics look scary that big. Look more like aliens than insects. |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 6, 2017 8:26:34 GMT -5
Yes, insects are totally Sci Fi. Hollywood should mimic. I believe a dragon fly eats several hundred mosquitos a day.
Mandibles, barbed feet and legs, multiple lens eyes, eating on the fly, super maneuverability, things of evil sorcery. True killing machines.
11.5 inch projected image or 11.5 inch LED screen ?
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Post by Garage Rocker on Aug 6, 2017 9:42:20 GMT -5
Yes, insects are totally Sci Fi. Hollywood should mimic. I believe a dragon fly eats several hundred mosquitos a day. Mandibles, barbed feet and legs, multiple lens eyes, eating on the fly, super maneuverability, things of evil sorcery. True killing machines. 11.5 inch projected image or 11.5 inch LED screen ? You forgot the zombie ants. That is a projected image. A little fancier than my old slide projector. No screen for it yet, just the wall. Plenty of detail in those alien eyes. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 10:15:55 GMT -5
Getting bonfire ready.
LCD projection too?
I quit
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Post by jamesp on Aug 6, 2017 10:17:02 GMT -5
Yes, insects are totally Sci Fi. Hollywood should mimic. I believe a dragon fly eats several hundred mosquitos a day. Mandibles, barbed feet and legs, multiple lens eyes, eating on the fly, super maneuverability, things of evil sorcery. True killing machines. 11.5 inch projected image or 11.5 inch LED screen ? You forgot the zombie ants. That is a projected image. A little fancier than my old slide projector. No screen for it yet, just the wall. Plenty of detail in those alien eyes. The detail that Canon body/lense puts out is almost supernatural. Replicating a world that the eye cannot see. The image and lighting is almost a world our eyes can not perceive. Why a projected image instead of an LED ? Are you using some kind of a digital projector that pulls data form USB ? Can it project like dense 20M file photos to say 3' X 4' ? |
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