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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 8, 2017 15:19:09 GMT -5
gemfeller Sounds like you are ready if you have to leave. I guess all you can do is wait now. I'll keep you in my thoughts. Let us know how things go. What the news is doing should be criminal. I thought they had to inform the public as part of their license.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 8, 2017 15:20:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the thoughts, Tela. I am about 43 miles to the SSE of the fire, and the Santa Ana winds are moving it to the west. However, conditions are ripe for more devastating fires. Especially if the winds keep up, like the weather guessers say they will. The winds have actually died down significantly today, but that can change. We are supposed to have them back this weekend. All it takes is some pyro to start a fire, and with the wind blowing like that, it is almost impossible to fight. Haven't heard anything yet (or if they even know), but since the fire started along the freeway, chances are good it was started by a car/catalytic converter. A lot of that around here. Although much more common when the temps are higher.
Thanks for the great update, Jean. Keep us posted if you find yourself in danger (after you are safe, of course). I'll keep fingers and toes crossed. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 8, 2017 15:41:38 GMT -5
Thanks, Tela. While the destruction is a tragedy for people that lost everything, the majority of people living here are unaffected by it. Or, at the most, are inconvenienced by standstill traffic on the freeways. We are used to "acts of nature" such as this and earthquakes, you could probably say most living here are nonplussed. You never expect it to happen to you. I think of how many people started their Thursday like any other day - got up, left for work. Had no inkling that such devastation would occur. It saddens me to think of these people that said goodbye to their pets, and walked out the door to go to work, never to see them or their house again. And what gemfeller said, the news coverage tends to sensationalize, instead of inform.
One good thing that has come out of it, is to see San Diegans are once again giving their time and opening their hearts and wallets to help those that lost so much. There is a go-fund-me page set up for the San Luis Rey Horse training facility. In only four hours, they have raised over $375K towards their goal of $250K (my mistake) $500K Thoroughbredcare gofundme
I thank God for all the firefighters who have been fighting this fire. It is a terrible situation, but without them, it would be so, so much worse.
ETA - The Red Cross is also taking donations for the human victims. Didn't mean it to sound like I cared more about the animals....
UPDATE - As of 4:30 pm on Saturday 12/9/17, $521,306 has been raised on the go fund me account. People can be so awesome!!! |
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Post by MsAli on Dec 8, 2017 15:48:39 GMT -5
Thanks, Tela. While the destruction is a tragedy for people that lost everything, the majority of people living here are unaffected by it. Or, at the most, are inconvenienced by standstill traffic on the freeways. We are used to "acts of nature" such as this and earthquakes, you could probably say most living here are nonplussed. You never expect it to happen to you. I think of how many people started their Thursday like any other day - got up, left for work. Had no inkling that such devastation would occur. It saddens me to think of these people that said goodbye to their pets, and walked out the door to go to work, never to see them or their house again. And what gemfeller said, the news coverage tends to sensationalize, instead of inform.
One good thing that has come out of it, is to see San Diegans are once again giving their time and opening their hearts and wallets to help those that lost so much. There is a go-fund-me page set up for the San Luis Rey Horse training facility. In only four hours, they have raised over $375K towards their goal of $250K. Thoroughbredcare gofundme
I thank God for all the firefighters who have been fighting this fire. It is a terrible situation, but without them, it would be so, so much worse. I saw this last night-they were not letting anyone into the property to help.....so sad-my friend had some horses there and he is just sick. Waiting to hear the news on them and some other friends property that they just bought 2 weeks ago....I know Damoors tack and feed is also helping collect $ as I am sure others. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 8, 2017 15:54:16 GMT -5
I saw a video of some people trying to save horses. I think it was a training place. Anyway, the reporters put down their stuff and jumped in to help. People do seem to come together in times like these.
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Post by MsAli on Dec 8, 2017 16:00:01 GMT -5
I saw a video of some people trying to save horses. I think it was a training place. Anyway, the reporters put down their stuff and jumped in to help. People do seem to come together in times like these. San Luis Rey Downs. There were trainers and staff on site when they let them loose. They didn't have enough trailers to get them all out, so they set them free. The people that were there did what they could before they had no choice but to leave. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 8, 2017 16:01:09 GMT -5
I saw a video of some people trying to save horses. I think it was a training place. Anyway, the reporters put down their stuff and jumped in to help. People do seem to come together in times like these. San Luis Rey Downs. There were trainers and staff on site when they let them loose. They didn't have enough trailers to get them all out, so they set them free. The people that were there did what they could before they had no choice but to leave. Wow, I didn't know the rest of the story. I hope the horses were able to run to safety. |
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Post by MsAli on Dec 8, 2017 16:01:49 GMT -5
It was originally estimated that 25 horses died in the fire or of fire-related injuries, although some on the scene fear it will go higher than 30.
The only known serious human casualty was trainer Martine Bellocq, who suffered second- and third-degree burns over 50% of her body, according to Jeremy Balan of Bloodhorse. She was taken by helicopter to UC San Diego Medical Center, where she was placed into a medically induced coma.
She was injured trying to rescue her six horses. Three perished and three are unaccounted for.
Trainer Cliff Sise, a regular on the Southern California circuit, said he saw about 10 horses die, including one of his fillies.
“It was dark, everything was hot and she wouldn’t come out,” Sise told KFMB-TV in San Diego. “I opened the pen and tried to get behind her and get her out, and she wouldn’t get out. She burned to death that quick.”
Trainer Scott Hansen fears he may have lost as many of 10 of his 30 horses.
“I don’t know the extent of the damage,” Hansen told the Daily Racing Form. “I know I lost horses. I had 30 horses. My guy estimates at least eight to 10 didn’t make it. That’s a guess.
“They were dropping the webbings to get them out of there. The palm trees caught fire above the barn. All hell broke loose real quick.”
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 8, 2017 16:03:04 GMT -5
Thanks, Tela. While the destruction is a tragedy for people that lost everything, the majority of people living here are unaffected by it. Or, at the most, are inconvenienced by standstill traffic on the freeways. We are used to "acts of nature" such as this and earthquakes, you could probably say most living here are nonplussed. You never expect it to happen to you. I think of how many people started their Thursday like any other day - got up, left for work. Had no inkling that such devastation would occur. It saddens me to think of these people that said goodbye to their pets, and walked out the door to go to work, never to see them or their house again. And what gemfeller said, the news coverage tends to sensationalize, instead of inform.
One good thing that has come out of it, is to see San Diegans are once again giving their time and opening their hearts and wallets to help those that lost so much. There is a go-fund-me page set up for the San Luis Rey Horse training facility. In only four hours, they have raised over $375K towards their goal of $250K. Thoroughbredcare gofundme
I thank God for all the firefighters who have been fighting this fire. It is a terrible situation, but without them, it would be so, so much worse. I saw this last night-they were not letting anyone into the property to help.....so sad-my friend had some horses there and he is just sick. Waiting to hear the news on them and some other friends property that they just bought 2 weeks ago....I know Damoors tack and feed is also helping collect $ as I am sure others. I didn't know you were close (my CA geography is not so great). I hope everything turns out ok for you and your friends.  |
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 8, 2017 16:04:31 GMT -5
Gawd. So sad.  |
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Post by MsAli on Dec 8, 2017 16:05:19 GMT -5
I am in Fresno. My friend has his horses there for training. My other friend just moved there to open her law firm. She asked if it was a sign it was a bad idea.....got to find some humor in this
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 8, 2017 16:10:45 GMT -5
I am in Fresno. My friend has his horses there for training. My other friend just moved there to open her law firm. She asked if it was a sign it was a bad idea.....got to find some humor in this I would have to say- yes, bad idea. My BIL and SIL were buying a house. The first sale fell through- clearly it wasn't meant to be. The second- a hurricane came through and totaled the house. Luckily, they hadn't signed the final papers. Unluckily, they had moved in 80% of their things- which they lost. I told them the next try would be their "forever" home- and it was. |
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Post by MsAli on Dec 8, 2017 17:41:29 GMT -5
I am in Fresno. My friend has his horses there for training. My other friend just moved there to open her law firm. She asked if it was a sign it was a bad idea.....got to find some humor in this I would have to say- yes, bad idea. My BIL and SIL were buying a house. The first sale fell through- clearly it wasn't meant to be. The second- a hurricane came through and totaled the house. Luckily, they hadn't signed the final papers. Unluckily, they had moved in 80% of their things- which they lost. I told them the next try would be their "forever" home- and it was. WOW-makes you wonder about Divine intervention |
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Post by parfive on Dec 8, 2017 22:34:02 GMT -5
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Post by taylor on Dec 8, 2017 22:52:42 GMT -5
I have found this website useful in getting accurate information on nearby fires: inciweb.nwcg.govSorry, not sure of the proper way to insert a link. Best wishes to all |
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Post by MsAli on Dec 8, 2017 23:06:01 GMT -5
That's a good site. Also Calfire.ca.gov.
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Post by gemfeller on Dec 8, 2017 23:14:29 GMT -5
I have found this website useful in getting accurate information on nearby fires: inciweb.nwcg.govSorry, not sure of the proper way to insert a link. Best wishes to all That's extremely helpful taylor. Thanks very much for posting it. Your link worked just fine. |
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Post by aDave on Dec 9, 2017 21:49:59 GMT -5
@shotgunner and Tommy, I appreciate the tags and the concerns. As Scott noted, we are safe. The big concern was the Rye fire which had the potential of impacting my in-law's property. For us, I think it worked out that the entire area was burned out in 2007 which reduced vegetation and allowed for a quick knock-down. We were able to sleep that night as opposed the way it was 10 years ago. I know I've been away for a bit, but that's due to a number of different issues. Fire-wise, we're good, and I appreciate your thoughts. The Thomas fire has been amazing to watch from a distance. It's nearly 150,000 acres, but it is now burning in (primarily) wilderness. The west flank, however, is still a threat to homes. Regards. Dave |
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Post by aDave on Dec 9, 2017 21:53:26 GMT -5
You can keep the effing politics out of this. Shit like this can be worried about later. |
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Post by parfive on Dec 10, 2017 2:05:09 GMT -5
How late is later? It’s in conference now—in both versions—so that must mean after the Orange maggot signs it. Cool.
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