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Post by mohs on Mar 8, 2018 15:30:28 GMT -5
mohs want to know
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Post by mohs on Mar 8, 2018 15:31:10 GMT -5
I took the lens to couple experts in the field A retailer in rock Specializes in mass produced Brazilian agates
The retailer says that its unique and NO They never seen that design on the mass market
The local rock hound confirms it’s a real agate And real nice one at that that Baffled to …to how its done
Besides some automated, 5 axis, CNC, 500,000 dollar machine
And then its just end up floating around at rock bottom!
Maybe its ancient ? Like crystal skulls….
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Post by mohs on Mar 8, 2018 15:52:13 GMT -5
ya know Scott they do a lot of the lens grinding at the UofA Tucson that may be worth a trip I think those guys would find this interesting...
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 8, 2018 17:24:33 GMT -5
mohs , you seem obsessed with finding out how the bowl was cut. Go the library and hunt up a copy of John Sinkankas's book "Gem Cutting: A Lapidary's Manual." I have the second edition. In mine on pages 218-19 the procedure is discussed and illustrated, along with a sketch of a simple machine for grinding, sanding and polishing the concave interior. You could probably build one for 200 bucks or so. It's an old book and new methods would make it somewhat simpler. By ganging up a bunch of diamond saw blades of the desired radius it might be easier to rough out the interior of the bowl freehand after initial sawing and chipping out the interior "slices" as shown in the book. In any event the process is fairly straightforward though time consuming. Cutting the convex exterior would be accomplished in much the same way as preforming a rough piece for a sphere plus a lot of laborious hand-grinding etc. Happy cutting!
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Post by mohs on Mar 8, 2018 17:54:49 GMT -5
Thanks Rick !
can visualize the machine-- the process
what blows me away is that it made of agate so hard- so smooth- no dips- no scratch marks- basically-- 7/64th of inch thick all away around
so lots tedious abrasive action
a softer stone much more doable
yes I am obsessed
mohs
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Post by mohs on Mar 8, 2018 18:14:27 GMT -5
It had to start a solid geode or thunder egg Cut in half or less Using the heel as the convex
The reason I assume that is because of the rough left on the rim that would have been ground away if it had been ground as a sphere first
I assume you would hog out, smooth, and polish the concave first,,,mostly ?
Then finish grind & polish the convex the back of stone
This would help to maintain the gauge of the thickness
The druzy at the bottom is really unique --sure it was planned that way yet The person must have been concerned with all the labor was it going to crack? Definitely knew their agates…
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Post by mohs on Mar 8, 2018 19:37:48 GMT -5
the other method is to grind a sphere first Slice off a part of that and start the process….
Thanks guys ! I got it now mostly
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Post by mohs on Mar 9, 2018 12:50:27 GMT -5
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Post by Fossilman on Mar 9, 2018 13:12:39 GMT -5
How ever it was made..Mad made or natural,its pretty damn cool......
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Post by zarguy on Mar 9, 2018 14:11:57 GMT -5
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Post by mohs on Mar 9, 2018 14:20:00 GMT -5
wow zarguy that blow up my lens hhhmmm...
and only 30 dollars at that sort of money I'm not sure why there not more popular
that why went to the retailer I had nagging feeling that they may be common
again it remarkable
thanks for posting!
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Post by mohs on Mar 9, 2018 14:25:16 GMT -5
the question becomes
how can it sale on the market for so inexpensively?
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Post by zarguy on Mar 9, 2018 14:37:24 GMT -5
mohs - Brazilian agate is very abundant. It comes in small to large nodules. Some of it is bland until they heat treat it to bring out some contrast. And then there are the BRIGHT PINK & BLUE slabs, wind chimes, bookends, clocks, etc. Don't you just LOVE the colors of nature? Lynn
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Post by mohs on Mar 9, 2018 14:41:34 GMT -5
Thanks Zar!
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Post by pauls on Mar 9, 2018 15:13:48 GMT -5
The cutter is a hemispherical diamond blade.
Simple machine, simple process and probably as quick as cutting a slab of Agate.
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Post by zarguy on Mar 9, 2018 15:17:03 GMT -5
Don't throw out your blade if it gets dished! Or did I mean bowled? Lynn
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Post by Jugglerguy on Mar 9, 2018 17:13:09 GMT -5
The cutter is a hemispherical diamond blade. Simple machine, simple process and probably as quick as cutting a slab of Agate. Do you have pictures or videos of the machine?
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Post by pauls on Mar 9, 2018 21:53:17 GMT -5
The cutter is a hemispherical diamond blade. Simple machine, simple process and probably as quick as cutting a slab of Agate. Do you have pictures or videos of the machine? Not any more, I used to have a picture many moons ago, it went west when a past computer hard drive died. The picture was from a 1970s Lapidary Magazine from memory. I have tried searching but didn't find anything other than a page for a factory in India making the bowls, lots of pictures of nice rock bowls but not of the process.
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