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Post by RickB on Jun 9, 2018 14:24:38 GMT -5
I was at the local flea market a few weeks ago and gave a young couple $6.00 for this woven kudzu basket full of hundreds of arrowheads. I could see that many were missing tips/bases but I still saw some that were perfect or near perfect. I ended up with about a gallon bag of decent ones worth framing and displaying. All these points came from an estate and were collected locally long ago just a few miles from where I live in SC. All are made of mostly local rock - quartz, quartzite and rhyolite. Many ages are represented. The oldest point I found in the basket is what I believe to be a transitional Hardaway-Dalton (10,000 - 9,000 BP) which is broad, notched with basal thinning and grinding on both sides - this one has a beveled edge. Latest would be many woodland era stemmed and triangular points (500 BC - AD 1100). Photos below - quarter in basket for size comparison. Rick B
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Post by fishnpinball on Jun 9, 2018 14:35:11 GMT -5
dang
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Post by Pat on Jun 9, 2018 14:43:02 GMT -5
What a lucky find!
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Post by fernwood on Jun 9, 2018 15:16:48 GMT -5
Unbelievable.
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Post by RickB on Jun 9, 2018 16:01:59 GMT -5
Wife loved the basket so I had to give it to her minus the points. Rick B
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Post by toiv0 on Jun 9, 2018 17:47:00 GMT -5
You got the better end of the deal. ummmmmmmmm points or basket......points or basket
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Post by jamesp on Jun 9, 2018 21:17:19 GMT -5
Many hours collecting in that basket Rick.
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Post by agatemaggot on Jun 10, 2018 4:50:22 GMT -5
Good score, Quartz points are extremely rare up North .
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Post by RickB on Jun 10, 2018 5:39:34 GMT -5
Many hours collecting in that basket Rick. Many many hours spent collecting, plus sweat and bug bites. James, I had to rinse these off then clean with a toothbrush with soap and water as they still had the original dirt and dust on them from when they were collected. Many bifurcated points in there also, most missing tips. Rick B
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Post by jamesp on Jun 10, 2018 6:22:17 GMT -5
Many hours collecting in that basket Rick. Many many hours spent collecting, plus sweat and bug bites. James, I had to rinse these off then clean with a toothbrush with soap and water as they still had the original dirt and dust on them from when they were collected. Many bifurcated points in there also, most missing tips. Rick B Down here in S Fulton county there is little land that has not seen the plow back in the day. You can still see the terraces in mature forests. So much of Georgia was in cultivation and broke so many artifacts. Small rust spots are on many artifacts where the plow hit them. Bifurcating quartz = talent, not the easiest material.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 10, 2018 6:24:46 GMT -5
Good score, Quartz points are extremely rare up North . They are all to common around N Georgia. Head 100 miles south and they are all coastal chert. 100 miles NW and they are about all jet black flint/chert.
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Post by agatemaggot on Jun 10, 2018 8:38:20 GMT -5
I found Quartz extremely difficult to work, a man could dislocate something trying to pry off a flake on that stuff. I suspect there was a LOT of indirect percussion going on with it and Producing a point with a lot of detail is just about impossible.
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Post by orrum on Jun 10, 2018 9:01:57 GMT -5
Wowser that's a great find!!!
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 10, 2018 9:22:43 GMT -5
AWESOME! Score!!
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Post by RickB on Jun 10, 2018 10:08:33 GMT -5
I found Quartz extremely difficult to work, a man could dislocate something trying to pry off a flake on that stuff. I suspect there was a LOT of indirect percussion going on with it and Producing a point with a lot of detail is just about impossible. I too have found quartz hard to work but have been able to produce a few nice points. Quartz can not have a crack in it before you start working on it or it will end up in pieces. I've found out that it will have a grain to the rock. If you find which way the grain is orientated, you can flake it in that direction. I also found that primitive tools (antler/stone) worked better for me than modern copper tools. Chip on, Rick B
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Post by orrum on Jun 10, 2018 16:15:31 GMT -5
Indirect percussion seems good to me.
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Post by lookatthat on Jun 10, 2018 20:03:33 GMT -5
$6!!!! Speechless.
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Post by lookatthat on Jun 10, 2018 20:03:59 GMT -5
I mean, a basket like that is worth at least $12!
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Post by lookatthat on Jun 10, 2018 20:04:50 GMT -5
Wow, just... wow.
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Post by RickB on Jun 12, 2018 6:37:23 GMT -5
Here's a quartz hardee point that I flint knapped back in 2011 - as discussed, quartz is hard to work but something nice can be found inside that hard white rock. Rick B
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