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Post by greig on Mar 11, 2020 12:32:50 GMT -5
The average age of death from this virus is 81 so it's taking out the weakest. Eat Right and take your Vitamins. Once the health care system is overwhelmed, this will impact everybody. It also seems to greatly affect smokers, obese diabetics, other underlying conditions.
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 11, 2020 14:11:37 GMT -5
The average age of death from this virus is 81 so it's taking out the weakest. Eat Right and take your Vitamins. Once the health care system is overwhelmed, this will impact everybody. It also seems to greatly affect smokers, obese diabetics, other underlying conditions.
I read something that was claiming that for the deaths in China, 50% had high blood pressure. That's pretty bad odds.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 11, 2020 14:46:26 GMT -5
Once the health care system is overwhelmed, this will impact everybody. It also seems to greatly affect smokers, obese diabetics, other underlying conditions.
I read something that was claiming that for the deaths in China, 50% had high blood pressure. That's pretty bad odds.
Just got back from taking husband in for labs before seeing his PC on Monday. No pandemonium there, only a couple people in the waiting room.
The gal behind the front desk reiterated what I've been hearing all along. Covid 18 19 is not nearly as bad as the common flu.
Oops, yes it is 19.
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Post by Pat on Mar 11, 2020 14:58:16 GMT -5
[ The gal behind the front desk reiterated what I've been hearing all along. Covid 18 is not nearly as bad as the common flu. EXACTLY. It’s bothersome that new bug seems to be man made. Has a hard shell.
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Post by parfive on Mar 11, 2020 15:11:01 GMT -5
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Post by MrP on Mar 11, 2020 15:15:41 GMT -5
I read something that was claiming that for the deaths in China, 50% had high blood pressure. That's pretty bad odds.
Just got back from taking husband in for labs before seeing his PC on Monday. No pandemonium there, only a couple people in the waiting room. The gal behind the front desk reiterated what I've been hearing all along. Covid 18 is not nearly as bad as the common flu. That is good to hear but what did they say about COVID-19? ...........................MrP
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Post by parfive on Mar 11, 2020 15:18:06 GMT -5
Hey Nineteen . . .
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Post by parfive on Mar 11, 2020 15:19:34 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 11, 2020 15:20:43 GMT -5
Just got back from taking husband in for labs before seeing his PC on Monday. No pandemonium there, only a couple people in the waiting room. The gal behind the front desk reiterated what I've been hearing all along. Covid 18 is not nearly as bad as the common flu. That is good to hear but what did they say about COVID-19? ...........................MrP
Oops, I plead typo...
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Post by parfive on Mar 11, 2020 15:33:46 GMT -5
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Post by greig on Mar 11, 2020 15:39:23 GMT -5
I read something that was claiming that for the deaths in China, 50% had high blood pressure. That's pretty bad odds.
Just got back from taking husband in for labs before seeing his PC on Monday. No pandemonium there, only a couple people in the waiting room. The gal behind the front desk reiterated what I've been hearing all along. Covid 18 is not nearly as bad as the common flu. Except - it appears to be 30X more infectious (starting 5+ days before symptoms), may cause permanent lung damage and 5% of those infected require hospitalization average 23 days. The death rate for common flu is 0.1% and CoV is tracking 2.3% (if health services are available). It might not be in your area yet, but the current assumption is 2/3 of the US population will be exposed this year. I don't suggest licking public door knobs anytime soon.
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Post by parfive on Mar 11, 2020 15:54:10 GMT -5
NCAA announces March Sadness.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 11, 2020 16:37:31 GMT -5
The best information on Coronavirus and how to combat it that I have seen. I received this in an email today.
While I am not a doctor by any stretch, this information is very much in line with things I have heard from real doctors and Health Centers. I will pass it on now, as I think it is good information, and it certainly will not hurt you if you follow these practices. If anyone knows more, please feel free to correct me.
Read it, heed it or just ignore it. What you do with it is totally up to you. I am passing it on, I have done my job.
The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. WHAT GREIG SAID. You don't know you're sick until it is too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds.
If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection.
In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases:
Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least.
Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach.
Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous.
Please send and share this with family and friends.
Take care everyone and may the world recover from this Coronavirus soon.
MORE INFO - This could all be bogus and made up, but everything said sounds legit, such as a higher temp readily kills the virus, as Peruano said.
The virus does not like cold. Hurray for the heat of the SW, help is coming in a few weeks. I choose to believe it.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS Last evening dining out with friends, one of their uncles, who's graduated with a master's degree and who worked in Shenzhen Hospital (Guangdong Province, China) sent him the following notes on Coronavirus for guidance:
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne. 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap. 6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours normal laundry detergent will kill it. 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice. 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. 9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice. 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing. 4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
SPREAD THE WORD - PLEASE SHARE
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Post by parfive on Mar 11, 2020 17:22:21 GMT -5
It doesn’t like cold, eh?
Well, it’s currently winter in China, Italy and Iran.
The guy in Shenzhen Hospital . . . presumably his 26/27 degrees is Celsius which is about 79 or 80 for us, so a warm indoor temp is gonna kill this thing? I doubt it.
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Post by parfive on Mar 11, 2020 17:24:42 GMT -5
How bout 98.6?
Is that warm enough to kill it?
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 11, 2020 17:27:26 GMT -5
Just got back from taking husband in for labs before seeing his PC on Monday. No pandemonium there, only a couple people in the waiting room. The gal behind the front desk reiterated what I've been hearing all along. Covid 18 is not nearly as bad as the common flu. That is good to hear but what did they say about COVID-19? ...........................MrP They didn't say any more than what I have heard from news sources. And they stressed soap and water is your friend.
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 11, 2020 17:32:48 GMT -5
Honestly, this stuff is getting out of hand. My granddaughter is home for Spring break. Now William &Mary college is saying don't come back until April 2nd (2 weeks later). I'm sure it will change before then. School is technically open for computer classes, but they don't want anyone in the dorms or classes. Last I looked, there were only 7 infections in VA. I know the virus is serious, but I think people are going a little overboard.
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Post by stardiamond on Mar 11, 2020 18:35:47 GMT -5
March Madness will be played without fans. The NBA is deciding whether to suspend the season or play it without fans. My local Bridge Club has shut down under advice of the county. The last one makes the most sense because the players are old and no particularly good at covering their mouth when coughing. I catch a lot of colds and have modified my behavior like no eating when playing cards. Cards are a medium of transfer for a virus and eating introduces what is on your hands into your mouth.
I don't go out very often and when I shop I will need to be careful to put my hands to my face and wash them thoroughly when I return home and clean any surface I touch in my car. I would still have exposure from any products I bought.
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Post by aDave on Mar 11, 2020 20:09:50 GMT -5
The virus does not like cold. Hurray for the heat of the SW, help is coming in a few weeks. I actually read/heard otherwise. In the US, there is an expected lull as we get to spring and weather warms up where the virus should diminish during warm months. I will note that your statement is somewhat contradictory, and I can't tell if there is sarcasm involved. ETA: Not sure what to think about seasonality now. I found this article earlier and posted in another thread. I found it an interesting read. www.wunderground.com/cat6/coronavirus-and-seasonality-what-we-know-and-dont-know?cm_ven=hp-slot-1
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Post by greig on Mar 11, 2020 22:02:02 GMT -5
UV destroys the virus (get out your UV lamps). It lives a long time (many days) if it is somewhat cool (10 C) but I have not seen any reports what happens if it freezes. Room temp is 21 C. When it is hot (I recall the study was 29 C) then it doesn't live as long (probably hours).
Update. It apparently survives days regardless of the temperature, but is affected by humidity.
I wish all the best to everybody. Looks like it is going to be a difficult year.
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