bandia1
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Post by bandia1 on Mar 11, 2020 12:02:18 GMT -5
Hi I bought an 18 in Belmont and the feed motor died immediately. The person I bought it from came and took the motor with the promise to get me replacement but he disappeared with the motor, so now I don't have the motor to even get a look at to see what I need. Does anyone have specs or information on what I can use for this saw. I've been told it had a 4 RPM on it but I believe it was faster than that.
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Post by amygdule on Mar 11, 2020 14:51:54 GMT -5
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bandia1
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Post by bandia1 on Mar 11, 2020 17:50:19 GMT -5
Yes,yes,yes, I gave been looking for months! This is the 1st pic I have seen. I am so excited.
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 12, 2020 0:19:05 GMT -5
bandia1 hey twin, Lee here. When we helped Charlie with his sales of rock and stuff he had a Belmont with a bad feed motor. He bought a couple motors from Grainger and burnt them out because he had the wrong rotation. I reversed the rotation for him on the last motor and it was fixed. The feed screw SB rotating CCW as you face the saw from the front. If I read the description on the Grainger page correctly that would also be a CCW motor, since it's belt driven, And I assume that rotation facing output shaft means the shaft is pointed at me. All that leads me to the Dayton shaded pole motor 52JE07. The shaft should run 4 rpm, the feed shaft is 20 threads/inch, so 4rpm = 1" every 5 minutes, as fast as you want a 18" saw to run. The motor is listed a ways down the page in the 2nd group, should also be the same as the saw at the shop. Both pulleys for the belt are the same size, right? www.grainger.com/category/power-transmission/gearmotors/ac-gearmotors
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Post by amygdule on Mar 12, 2020 0:20:16 GMT -5
Here's some pics of the "Dayton" motor feed from the Belmont saw Don't know how fast the gearbox turns
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bandia1
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Post by bandia1 on Mar 12, 2020 15:49:04 GMT -5
Thanks to you both for the time & effort you put into solving this for me. I am very grateful!
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bandia1
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Post by bandia1 on Mar 12, 2020 15:58:30 GMT -5
The person who is working on the saw for me asked saw your post & is now askingif there is anyway he can get a front photo of saw and measurements of hole pattern /distance.
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Post by amygdule on Mar 12, 2020 19:14:44 GMT -5
The person who is working on the saw for me asked saw your post & is now askingif there is anyway he can get a front photo of saw and measurements of hole pattern /distance. I took this picture today, but the only thing I measured was the feed pulleys. The feed motor pulley is 1 5/8" and the screw feed pulley is 3". The saw is stored elsewhere. I can get some more pictures and measurements tomorrow if you let me know what you want specifically.
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Post by amygdule on Mar 13, 2020 18:59:32 GMT -5
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Post by amygdule on Mar 13, 2020 20:46:08 GMT -5
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orerockon
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Post by orerockon on Mar 15, 2020 21:54:10 GMT -5
The person who is working on the saw for me asked saw your post & is now askingif there is anyway he can get a front photo of saw and measurements of hole pattern /distance. Thanks for the pics everybody, it turns out that the saw in question was monkeyed with and had a bracket to fit a DC motor, and a AC-DC rectified timer & switch to run it (something I can't unsee now dammit). I think the photos are of the original motor or a later replacement with a similar model. Funny thing is I was rummaging through my motor collection and found the same motor but AC, but the gears were stripped. So I'm pretty sure they couldn't find that exact motor in AC. (they're probably extinct in the wild now). All good now, new motor on the way and everything will put back to original shape. Including the original paddle switch/pull chain setup that shuts off the feed and the saw motor, a much less dangerous lid support, and a new splash guard for the blade. I'll spare you the gory details of what else they monkeyed with lol. I'll try to remember to put photos of the restored saw here.
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Post by amygdule on Mar 16, 2020 0:16:06 GMT -5
orerockon, that name sounds familiar. Looking forward to seeing pictures of the Belmont. The pictures of your work on your website look nice. My poor saw needs some TLC. New paint, belts and a power cord. At least it was working well the last time I used it 25 years ago.
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orerockon
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Post by orerockon on Mar 17, 2020 9:09:16 GMT -5
orerockon , that name sounds familiar. Looking forward to seeing pictures of the Belmont. The pictures of your work on your website look nice. My poor saw needs some TLC. New paint, belts and a power cord. At least it was working well the last time I used it 25 years ago. Thanks, I restore a lot of equipment that I come across and lately much of what I restore is for people who have a machine they want to get into excellent shape (if I do say myself lol). I'm obsessive about it, if a machine is capable of being restored to original working condition that's what I do. If not I can work around it, I can make some parts or reasonable substitutes myself and pull from my ever growing stockpile of parts. I'm sure I've dome at least 100 machines but until recently the only photos I have are what I took to list them online, and I just deleted them for many of the earlier machines. I have photos of an 18" HP that I am particularly proud of but I don't see how to upload them?
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