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Post by stardiamond on Mar 27, 2021 17:16:59 GMT -5
I use a lot of water additive coolant. I was buying lube-kool from johns brothers at $54 a gallon and the shipping was expensive so I would buy additional items to average out shipping cost.
I ordered a flat lap from rock peddler and included a couple gallons of Diamond Pacific water aid at $27.75 a gallon. I've used 1.5 gallons so far and it works as well as lube-kool and uses a lower concentration. On Wednesday, I ordered two more gallons and it was shipped fedex directly from Diamond Pacific and arrived today. I don't know exactly what the shipping cost was because they haven't charged my card. I remember from the last order it was cheaper than JB shipping UPS. My trim saw is water cooled and requires a double concentration than what is used for grinding. My cabbing machines use recirculated water and I use fresh water for pre-polishing and use the tray with that water to start the grinding process on the next batch. I use about two gallons of water for each batch of cabs including the trims saw. The additive is recommended and believe it improves the grinding, sanding and pre-polishing.
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Post by stardiamond on Mar 29, 2021 12:25:36 GMT -5
Shipping was $19.69.
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Post by greig on Mar 29, 2021 13:28:12 GMT -5
Have you tried tap water, to see if you notice a difference? If it needs to be cooler, that is an easy fix (but tough/cold on your hands). I am not trying to be a smarty. I have never used anything other than what comes from 135' down my well.
edit - not true. I use mineral oil in my 10" trim saw. Whoops
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Post by stardiamond on Mar 29, 2021 14:40:07 GMT -5
From Kingsley North:
Water Aid is a concentrated wetting agent. It increases cutting action of sawing, grinding, and sanding/polishing operations using water by eliminating surface tension and preventing hydro-planing,
A Small bottle came with my Genie. I use two geysers under a wheel and the additive. I figured out the two geysers myself. It cuts faster and the line on the bottom is more visible. I have tried without the additive and I notice a difference.
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standles
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Post by standles on Mar 29, 2021 18:18:43 GMT -5
So basically this stuff just lowers the surface tension of the dihydrogen monoxide to allow better slow. Seems like same thing Jet Dry and Dishsoap (I know you don't want bubbles) does for cheaper.
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Post by stardiamond on Mar 29, 2021 23:39:42 GMT -5
So basically this stuff just lowers the surface tension of the dihydrogen monoxide to allow better slow. Seems like same thing Jet Dry and Dishsoap (I know you don't want bubbles) does for cheaper. None of the coolants has the ingredients on the bottle. Jet dry cost 43 cents an ounce at Walmart. With shipping, water aid costs 30 cents an ounce. Lube cool is 20 to 1 with water for grinding. For a gallon of water mix it would require 6.4 ounces. water aid is 48 drops to a gallon. I think that converts to .044 ounces. The concentration for the saw is twice as much as the grinder. Water aid will last a longer than lube cool.
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Post by manofglass on Mar 30, 2021 10:32:12 GMT -5
I just have a lot of iron in the water just add dish soap
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 30, 2021 12:38:38 GMT -5
The additives definitely make a difference. Back when you could still get them, we used the tiny 1.5mm, 2mm, and 3mm hollow core drills for pendants. With the additives they were good for at least double the holes, and the core never got stuck and ruined the drill. I usually mix the lube Kool a little bit stronger and top up with water when it's in the saw, since I clean it pretty often and most of the loss is evaporation. stardiamond you might want to check with christopherl1234 on diamond Pacific stuff, he's a dealer and has got me some good deals.
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Post by stefan on Mar 31, 2021 18:26:27 GMT -5
Never used any of that stuff. Only thing I use is a little borax and that is more for my hands (helps keep my hard well water from drying out my hands too much). Any thoughts on borax?
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