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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 18, 2022 18:26:04 GMT -5
khara I also started with an old Craftsman flat lap and to tell you the truth I almost always felt like I was wasting my time for the amount of usable cabs I produced. The KN cabber change it night & day for me.
Patty
I agree, the time to output ratio was off. It was a lot of back and neck pain for just a single cab. I welcome a night and day difference! I'll agree with the time consumption with making cabs on a flat lap! After making cabs with a Dremel for two months, I switched over to a Hi-Tech Diamond 8" slant cabber. Worked cabs for a year on that thing...then switched over to the KNC6 9 months ago. Now...depending on material...I can do a cab in 25 minutes - although some will still take an hour or more if it's giving me fits! When I was working on the slant cabber, I couldn't even get the initial grind done in a half hour! LOL
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Post by khara on Sept 19, 2022 4:10:17 GMT -5
jasoninsd “When I was working on the slant cabber, I couldn't even get the initial grind done in a half hour! LOL” I’m glad to know I’m not the only one! And I’d show off my cabs and people were like “ya… that’s… uh… great…” not knowing what I’m working with for tools. I think though that starting off with lesser tools creates more appreciation for the nicer tools when we do get them. If we hadn’t struggled we wouldn’t know how good we have it. :-)
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Post by rmf on Sept 19, 2022 4:37:11 GMT -5
That is a nice looking machine. I would prefer that design to a DP since if the motor fails you replace and move on. With the DP you buy a new machine. The rest comes down to space between wheels and water. I would like to know how the water system works. Does it spread water across the face of the wheel? If so then great.
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Post by khara on Sept 19, 2022 4:41:37 GMT -5
That is a nice looking machine. I would prefer that design to a DP since if the motor fails you replace and move on. With the DP you buy a new machine. The rest comes down to space between wheels and water. I would like to know how the water system works. Does it spread water across the face of the wheel? If so then great. Right (about the DP motor). I’m sure there are old timers out there who could replace or repair it. Probably my local club I could find help. But I’m thinking with the KN I could actually find a new motor myself and replace it (even knowing absolutely nothing about them). And then because the motor is not in the middle of the unit, you have the extra wheel space.
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Post by liveoak on Sept 19, 2022 6:06:41 GMT -5
I would like to know how the water system works. Does it spread water across the face of the wheel? If so then great. The water comes in at the top of the wheel & there's a felt pad that hangs onto the housing top /front and rides on the front of each wheel and spreads the water across. Works fine in my opinion.
Patty
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 19, 2022 7:17:18 GMT -5
jasoninsd “When I was working on the slant cabber, I couldn't even get the initial grind done in a half hour! LOL” I’m glad to know I’m not the only one! And I’d show off my cabs and people were like “ya… that’s… uh… great…” not knowing what I’m working with for tools. I think though that starting off with lesser tools creates more appreciation for the nicer tools when we do get them. If we hadn’t struggled we wouldn’t know how good we have it. :-) I 100% agree with the "appreciation"! I knew the slant cabber was a remarkable improvement over the Dremel...but the cabbing machine! Whoa! LOL There's a thread on here somewhere from around a year ago where I was whining questioning as to why it was taking me over an hour to grind preforms on the slant cabber! LOL - Turned out I needed a new disk...I'd worn the first one down rather quickly! LOL That is a nice looking machine. I would prefer that design to a DP since if the motor fails you replace and move on. With the DP you buy a new machine. The rest comes down to space between wheels and water. I would like to know how the water system works. Does it spread water across the face of the wheel? If so then great. Patty got this one. That is a nice looking machine. I would prefer that design to a DP since if the motor fails you replace and move on. With the DP you buy a new machine. The rest comes down to space between wheels and water. I would like to know how the water system works. Does it spread water across the face of the wheel? If so then great. Right (about the DP motor). I’m sure there are old timers out there who could replace or repair it. Probably my local club I could find help. But I’m thinking with the KN I could actually find a new motor myself and replace it (even knowing absolutely nothing about them). And then because the motor is not in the middle of the unit, you have the extra wheel space. I'm hoping I don't have to replace the motor any time soon...but I'm with you...if I DO need to, I'm confident I can remove and replace without any curse words being thrown out there! (No guarantees on that though! LOL) I would like to know how the water system works. Does it spread water across the face of the wheel? If so then great. The water comes in at the top of the wheel & there's a felt pad that hangs onto the housing top /front and rides on the front of each wheel and spreads the water across. Works fine in my opinion.
Patty
Thanks Patty! I do think the felt pads wear out faster than they should...but I know they were working on getting a different type of material to use instead.
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Post by liveoak on Sept 19, 2022 8:20:34 GMT -5
Thanks Patty! I do think the felt pads wear out faster than they should...but I know they were working on getting a different type of material to use instead. As I said your mileage is MUCH more on the machine, so although I do see some wear on the felt, nothing I'm worried about at this point.
However, you might look at buying your own real felt and just cutting strips. McMaster Carr is a good industrial supplier.
Patty
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 19, 2022 22:14:35 GMT -5
Thanks Patty! I do think the felt pads wear out faster than they should...but I know they were working on getting a different type of material to use instead. As I said your mileage is MUCH more on the machine, so although I do see some wear on the felt, nothing I'm worried about at this point.
However, you might look at buying your own real felt and just cutting strips. McMaster Carr is a good industrial supplier.
Patty
Oooh!!! Serious thanks for that link Patty!
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Post by khara on Sept 28, 2022 16:34:02 GMT -5
jasoninsd Are your DP wheels set up in sequential order (80, 220, 280 + 600, 1200, 3000) from left to right? I was talking with a KN rep and he said they assemble the first set as 280, 80, 220. This seems odd... Not sure if I'm just miscommunicating with him or what.
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 28, 2022 17:32:30 GMT -5
jasoninsd Are your DP wheels set up in sequential order (80, 220, 280 + 600, 1200, 3000) from left to right? I was talking with a KN rep and he said they assemble the first set as 280, 80, 220. This seems odd... Not sure if I'm just miscommunicating with him or what. Wow. I'm not sure the KN rep knew what they were talking about. My wheels were setup in correct sequential order...
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Post by khara on Sept 28, 2022 17:50:28 GMT -5
jasoninsd Are your DP wheels set up in sequential order (80, 220, 280 + 600, 1200, 3000) from left to right? I was talking with a KN rep and he said they assemble the first set as 280, 80, 220. This seems odd... Not sure if I'm just miscommunicating with him or what. Wow. I'm not sure the KN rep knew what they were talking about. My wheels were setup in correct sequential order... OK, thank you. I'm thinking/hoping we just weren't communicating, or brain fog/lack of coffee is happening... :-)
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Post by khara on Sept 28, 2022 18:44:50 GMT -5
By the way jasoninsd and liveoak , the u-channel foam rubber gaskets ARE now coming as standard on the KN machines.
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Post by liveoak on Sept 29, 2022 6:32:56 GMT -5
Sounds like you're ordering one up khara , congrats
Patty
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