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Post by 1dave on Apr 27, 2022 16:27:37 GMT -5
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 27, 2022 21:28:37 GMT -5
My dad is in town visiting and we were just discussing the piezoelectric effect as part of an experiment I have been wanting to do for quite a while.
Interesting little tidbit about the piezoelectric effect. This is responsible for bone mineralization. The collagen matrix of bone contains silica, which helps make up various structural proteins. When we apply stress to our bones, such as during exercise, this stimulates the piezoelectric effect of the silica leading to electrodeposition of minerals in to the collagen matrix.
This principle has also been used to speed the healing of fractures by applying minute electrical currents around the fracture. This also stimulates the piezoelectric effect of silica in bones stimulating bone growth.
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Post by 1dave on Apr 28, 2022 11:28:51 GMT -5
Have you read The Body Electric?  |
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Post by 1dave on Apr 28, 2022 11:56:34 GMT -5
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 28, 2022 18:10:47 GMT -5
Have you read The Body Electric? No, seen the book. It has been around for quite a while, but never took the time to read it. Have seen a lot though on the electrical properties of the body. Even sharks can detect prey by the electrical currents created by the body. |
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Post by mohs on Apr 28, 2022 19:44:09 GMT -5
yep I've read of some accounts
of animals producing electric shock
interesting bio chemical process
i suppose
not sure about
altho there have been cases, supposedly
of human producing ethyl in the gut
auto brewery syndrome or ABS...
suppose its possible
if a piezo effect happens in the bones
and ABS happens at the time
an unusual confluence
certainly
butte still
kaboom
Spontaneous human combustion?
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Post by Son Of Beach on Apr 28, 2022 20:19:21 GMT -5
My dad is in town visiting and we were just discussing the piezoelectric effect as part of an experiment I have been wanting to do for quite a while. Interesting little tidbit about the piezoelectric effect. This is responsible for bone mineralization. The collagen matrix of bone contains silica, which helps make up various structural proteins. When we apply stress to our bones, such as during exercise, this stimulates the piezoelectric effect of the silica leading to electrodeposition of minerals in to the collagen matrix. This principle has also been used to speed the healing of fractures by applying minute electrical currents around the fracture. This also stimulates the piezoelectric effect of silica in bones stimulating bone growth. So movement, more over stress, provides strength in humans then? I mean, it seems obvious I guess. So in theory, can we apply that to rock formation? I'm way outside my league here... |
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 29, 2022 2:18:52 GMT -5
yep I've read of some accounts of animals producing electric shock interesting bio chemical process i suppose not sure about altho there have been cases, supposedly of human producing ethyl in the gut auto brewery syndrome or ABS... suppose its possible if a piezo effect happens in the bones and ABS happens at the time an unusual confluence certainly butte still
kaboom
Spontaneous human combustion? Yes, electric eels and electric rays produce quite a bit of voltage to stun prey. interestingly, electrotherapy dates back to ancient Greek times when they used these animals to shock individuals to cure certain diseases. There is actually a scientific principle for this. Viruses are very prone to electricity being destroyed by as little as 1 volt of electricity.
Electricity can heal in other ways as well. For example, about 30 years I ended up cutting off a large portion of the end of my thumb in a table saw accident. My friend recovered the cut off part but it was too mangled to reattach, so I figured my thumb would just be a stubby the rest of my life. I was talking to a doctor I was friends with and he showed me a product of silver impregnated nylon, which was to be put over amputated areas and electricity applied to stimulate regrowth of tissue. Some other friends of mine were telling me about regrowing amputated areas using high voltage with argon gas tubes. Long story short, I ended experimenting using a 15,000 volt neon (pig iron, not solid state) transformer hooked up to a neon tube from a photospectrometer. I made a very concentrated colloidal silver solution and firs soaked the stub in the silver. I personally believe the role of the silver is to increase conduction of the electricity as silver is an excellent conductor. I then ran the 15,000 volts (30ma) through the neon tube and put the stub up to the glass to run the electricity to the stub. Took 6 months, but all the tissue grew back. Still have nerve damage in the thumb, but it is pretty minor at this point.
Endogenous ethanol fermentation, also known as "auto-brewery syndrome" is a real thing, although quite rare. It is believed to be from an overgrowth of yeasts in the gut that ferment carbohydrates entering the gut leading to alcohol fermentation that can be severe enough to lead to intoxication without drinking alcohol.
There are various hypotheses regarding spontaneous human combustion. I have heard some scientists claiming this is due to slow burning of the body through a wicking effect as the flame uses body fat to continue fueling itself. I think this is nonsense for a variety of reasons including this would not be hot enough to completely incinerate bone. Especially since cremation, which reaches temps of 1800F is not sufficient to completely incinerate bone. Instead, the calcium and phosphorus of the bone fuse to form calcium phosphate, which makes up the majority of human cremation ashes. In addition, there does not appear to be any flame involved in SHC as flammable materials nearby never ignite. My personal feeling about SHC is that it involves a major surge of electrical energy sufficient to create massive 6th degree burns.
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 29, 2022 2:36:33 GMT -5
My dad is in town visiting and we were just discussing the piezoelectric effect as part of an experiment I have been wanting to do for quite a while. Interesting little tidbit about the piezoelectric effect. This is responsible for bone mineralization. The collagen matrix of bone contains silica, which helps make up various structural proteins. When we apply stress to our bones, such as during exercise, this stimulates the piezoelectric effect of the silica leading to electrodeposition of minerals in to the collagen matrix. This principle has also been used to speed the healing of fractures by applying minute electrical currents around the fracture. This also stimulates the piezoelectric effect of silica in bones stimulating bone growth. So movement, more over stress, provides strength in humans then? I mean, it seems obvious I guess. So in theory, can we apply that to rock formation? I'm way outside my league here... Movement or electricity is required to induce the piezoelectric effect of bone to move minerals in to the collagen matrix of bone. Movement though is stressing the bone leading to the piezoelectric effect. Simply taking calcium will not do the trick since the movement of calcium and other minerals in to bone is dependent on the piezoelectric effect. Muscle strength is dependent on muscle contraction.
As for rock formation, yes and no. Most rocks will form as the result of chemical bonding. For instance, calcium base rocks reacting with carbonic acid to form calcium carbonates, or the oxidation of aluminum forming aluminum oxide that then gets melted allowing atoms to migrate in the liquid form to form the crystals of sapphire.
I have been working on a theory though for a number of years that fossils form not by replacement reactions, but rather through piezoelectric effect. One day when I have some time I want to run an experiment on this. I believe it is possible to form "fossils" in a relatively short period of time.
One other interesting note about piezoelectric effect. We often hear about people seeing apparitions in old castles during thunderstorms. It is believed that this has to do with the composition of the castles, which are made from granite. The belief is that during the thunderstorms that the lightning is stimulating the piezoelectric effect of the granite creating electromagnetic fields that affect the brain allowing people to see apparitions.
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Post by mohs on Apr 29, 2022 10:15:22 GMT -5
Yo vegasjames James – dislike hearing about the accident uuugggghhhhh... Its cool that you discovered some electro regenerative insight Tell me what you think of this theory A month ago a rash started on my right side only. On my neck, ear, and in my nether region. A real pain in the arse…mostly All on my right side. So I bought some jock itch cream. Butenafine Hydrocloride Cream 1%. never had jock itch before. this rash was problematic. like all these strange things it flairs up when you trying to go to sleep ha ha Anyway the cream cleared up the rash quickly! Not sure it is a fix or treating the underlying cause? Nonetheless I came up with a hypothesis. Why is this rash only on my right side ? Because I sleep on my right side! So my hypothesis is that the air can’t circulate around those sweat glands. . Does this sound reasonable?
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vegasjames No. Its just flat longish thin red rash. Very locally concentrated. Just basically itches. The butenfine ointment gave immediate relief Been using it for about week. Basically once a day use. Rash hasn’t spread and is a lot better Not sure it will be the cure Might have to escalate to a doctor Haven’t had check up/bloodwork in a couple years I been real lucky with vitals health and such I really appreciate the inside info and offer James really do thanks Ed |
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 29, 2022 19:29:28 GMT -5
Yo vegasjames James – dislike hearing about the accident uuugggghhhhh... Its cool that you discovered some electro regenerative insight Tell me what you think of this theory A month ago a rash started on my right side only. On my neck, ear, and in my nether region. A real pain in the arse…mostly All on my right side. So I bought some jock itch cream. Butenafine Hydrocloride Cream 1%. never had jock itch before. this rash was problematic. like all these strange things it flairs up when you trying to go to sleep ha ha Anyway the cream cleared up the rash quickly! Not sure it is a fix or treating the underlying cause? Nonetheless I came up with a hypothesis. Why is this rash only on my right side ? Because I sleep on my right side! So my hypothesis is that the air can’t circulate around those sweat glands. . Does this sound reasonable? A one sided rash like that could be a number of things. Shingles, heat rash, contact dermatitis or staph. Can you give more info on the rash such as does it have bumps? If so are they tiny with little heads or blister like? If bumps are present do they break open and crust? What kind of sensation does the rash give? Very painful or prickly feeling? Or is the rash just red and flat? Are you prone to allergies? You can always PM me if you do not want to post answers publicly. |
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