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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 9:48:35 GMT -5
My friend in Turkey wants to buy a 60cm (24") saw.
Money is not the issue, this machine will get a lot of use. He can get any saw from any manufacturer.
If money no object what saw would you buy?
He will be slabbing and cabbing large amounts of native stones.
Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 10:06:01 GMT -5
If money or size is not an issue and you are cutting large rock, I would buy the Diamond Pacific 24" saw. With its hydraulic feed, it kicks ass. It will out cut my HP 2:1.
Tim
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Post by catmandewe on Mar 22, 2013 10:27:24 GMT -5
I agree with Tim.
Tony
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Post by Roger on Mar 22, 2013 11:29:09 GMT -5
Completly off topic..can I have your friend ? I would love one with a large saw lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 11:48:52 GMT -5
Completly off topic..can I have your friend ? I would love one with a large saw lol He is in Turkey.Tim is closer!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 11:56:31 GMT -5
well, I'll never spend that on a saw, so I need to find a used saw and add hydraulics. We use those at school and we get cutting speeds twice what people here quote for "good cutting speed". I like that softer materials cut faster and harder materials cut slower, automatically. Not stuck with a fixed feed rate with a screw drive.
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Post by Roger on Mar 22, 2013 13:02:46 GMT -5
Hold on a moment Scott. How would someone go about adding a hydraulic feed to a saw? I just finished rebuilding my little Lortone 10" it is still clean and I need another project.
Have you added hydraulics to one before?? If I can find a "how-to" on the web somewhere I may never actually cut a slab with it.
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Post by robsrockshop on Mar 22, 2013 14:50:25 GMT -5
The old western saws were hydraulic/weight. $ is the issue. You can get a good used saw for several hundred or more, if you want this and that feauture and gold plated hoods then be prepared to pay. That's why they don't make the LS10's anymore, costs just as much to build as an LS12.
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Post by sheltie on Mar 22, 2013 15:32:11 GMT -5
I don't have that much experience but I bought a new HP last winter and love it. I don't know if Tony and Tim were referring to the "old" HPs or the new ones but your friend may want to research it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 17:42:01 GMT -5
Hold on a moment Scott. How would someone go about adding a hydraulic feed to a saw? I just finished rebuilding my little Lortone 10" it is still clean and I need another project. Have you added hydraulics to one before?? If I can find a "how-to" on the web somewhere I may never actually cut a slab with it. Never done it. But they did at school. The components list is very short: Oil pump, hydraulic ram, hose to connect them, intake hose, oil reservoir, pressure gauge, pressure regulator. It is likely that these are all available used in your area for half the cost of new. Seems like you would need a couple fittings to connect the gauge and valve too. Plus screws to mount the whole thing. Once installed: Set stone in vice securely position stone/vice next to blade set chain for auto shutoff turn on hydraulic pump increase pressure to desire level. I cut ~8 inches of wonderstone on this saw in about 15 minutes. Based on the responses I got, screw feed saws do this in 5 minutes per inch to protect the blade. 25 minutes savings on one cut. Depends on your situation, but if your time is valuable, this is a really worthwhile feature. I am hoping that perhaps others with more experience will tell us the down side, I do not know what they are so I cannot balance my post.
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Post by catmandewe on Mar 22, 2013 17:44:17 GMT -5
Diamond Pacific bought Highland Park and the saw they sell now is a hybrid that is called Highland Precision, they took parts of the Highland Park and merged them with the fastest saw at the time which was a Rogue saw that used hydraulics as a feed system. The result was Highland Precision, nice saw, big price tag. You can still get a Rogue custom built if you can afford it. I looked into buying the Rogue saw rights but decided against it.
Tony
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Post by MrP on Mar 22, 2013 18:58:47 GMT -5
I use an air cylinder to feed my saw. When I got the saw it was set up to use water to power the feed. I did not like that so I rebuilt it to use air. It only had a 1.25" cylinder on it but after doing some figuring I built a 2" cylinder. Parts for cylinder--2" copper pipe, end caps, 3/8" rod, washers,3/8"nuts, piston cup seals www.mcmaster.com/#ring-seals/=lztfh4Piston Cup Seal 2" OD, 1/2" Height, 3/8" ID Cut the 2" copper pipe to length to give the right distance for the push. The rod will be longer. One end of the rod has to be threaded for the piston cup seals. Washers hold the piston cup seal in place. I have small holes in the other end of the rod to capture the push bar on the bottom of the carriage, with hairpin clips. I soldered a strap on one cap so I could bolt it to the saw. The other cap gets a hole for the rod. The hole can be a little larger because that end has to be vented anyway. For control you need an air regulator and a couple of valves. The piston has to be tapped for an air fitting. The second valve is for venting when you pull the carriage back. I use 5-15 PSI for cutting. I like it because an easy cutting rock can be cut very quick.............MrP
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