meta7
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by meta7 on Dec 2, 2013 13:26:32 GMT -5
Can anyone please tell me where to get inexpensive Water Coolant Geysers to put under my nova wheels (& grinding wheels)? Kingsley North sells them for $37.50 www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/product.php?id=87650&catID=1025but I am hoping to not spend so much, because I think I need 3 of them. Thanks, :-) Dave
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Dec 2, 2013 14:27:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 14:59:30 GMT -5
Chuck, your post solved the mystery. The electronic part is a small aquarium air bubbler. So pushing air under the water level and up thru the hole causes the metal part to spit water with the air. The rockshed version uses Hagen's Elite series air pump and a cast aluminum piece connected by a $0.10 piece of aquarium airline. $13 air pump
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marinedad
freely admits to licking rocks
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Post by marinedad on Dec 2, 2013 18:34:33 GMT -5
meta7, I recently got kingsleys 6"-6 wheel stainless cabber and it came with the 37.50 spitter. I like the drip system better. I have the unit new in the box, I'd be willing to trade for some rock?
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QuailRiver
fully equipped rock polisher
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Post by QuailRiver on Dec 3, 2013 2:38:22 GMT -5
I made mine from a piece of scrap nylon bar stock. I drilled a hole through the end and tapped it for a standard brass 3/8" hose nipple. Then drilled a row of 1/16" holes in the top. Made a lead shoe from a fishing weight and screwed it to the bottom to help weigh the geyser down enough for it to stay put. Ran a section of 3/8" flexible hose to a ball valve to control the water pressure. And ran the second section of 3/8" hose to a miniature submersible fountain pump from Harbor Freight. www.harborfreight.com/158-gph-miniature-submersible-fountain-pump-68396.html . I bought a 3 gallon bucket at Home Depot that is the same stacking diameter as a 5 gallon pail and drilled holes in the bottom. I run my drain hose from my splash pan through one of holes in the bottom of the 3 gallon pail so the heavier particles of slurry stay in bottom of the 5 gallon pail and the cleaner water passes back up through the other holes into the 3 gallon pail where the pump is located so that the pump doesn't get clogged up with slurry. The whole set up was less than $25.00. I have attempted to add photos. If they don't post you can view them here. www.flickr.com/photos/quailriver/with/11185602796/
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Post by johnjsgems on Dec 3, 2013 11:33:15 GMT -5
It would be better to use two buckets (one for clean supply and one for waste water). No point in using possibly dirty water on your diamond wheels.
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QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on Dec 3, 2013 13:16:55 GMT -5
The system I use has never caused me any problems. Since the drain hose extends through a hole in the bottom of the three gallon bucket into the lower five gallon bucket any particles large enough to cause scratches stay and settle in the bottom of the five gallon bucket and don't make it up into the three gallon bucket above. And this way I don't have to stop and empty a drain bucket and refill a supply bucket every half hour. If I were using SC wheels, or diamond paste, contamination might be an issue but it hasn't been when using diamond grinding wheels and Nova sanding wheels. And I use a different machine for the final polish altogether so there is no chance of contamination there either.
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riverbendlapidary
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Post by riverbendlapidary on Dec 3, 2013 19:16:23 GMT -5
These work great if you don't mind scratches on your cabs and contaminated wheels. Do yourself a favor and install a drip system.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 14:06:39 GMT -5
at school we drip. The water is in a 5 gallon pail. There is a swamp cooler pump mounted on a floating piece of 2 x 4. The intake is 2" below water level. The return water is fed to the same bucket and the heavy stone dust settles out in the bottom. The returned re-used water is clean enough and folks make gorgeous cabs (you guys even liked one I made!) using this method. One bucket. When it gets too full of rock dust it is drained dry then just tossed. Takes well over a year of cab making to fill the buckets with rock dust.
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Sabre52
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Me and my gal, Rosie
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Post by Sabre52 on Dec 4, 2013 16:24:27 GMT -5
The geysers on my Genie seem to be wearing out and run kind of intermittently so I bought a Kingsley North under wheel geyser. It's not too bad but the water pushed up barely reaches the wheels. Standard ones on the Genie were much more efficient when I first got the machine. I think next machine I get, I'll go with the drip systems cause I just like them better and think they are cleaner......Mel
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bsky4463
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Post by bsky4463 on Dec 4, 2013 16:46:09 GMT -5
Sabre52 - I had a similar issue with my Genie, but was able to remedy it by installing new felt and leather pads (kit from DP) in the pump and thoroughly cleaning the pump pulleys (remove left side wheels). My pulleys were fully junked up and the micro-belt was slipping causing sporadic pumping. I too would prefer the drip approach to have clean water on the wheels, but in the meantime you might me able to salvage your current built-in system. Don at DP was very helpful.
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Post by pghram on Dec 4, 2013 17:11:49 GMT -5
Just to give a different point of view, I use the Kingsly unit with good success. I've not had a problem w/ contamination & I really like the fact that I don't get soaked as most of the water slings toward the back.
Rich
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