quartz
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Post by quartz on Jan 1, 2014 23:33:06 GMT -5
As of today, new mothers can take the placenta home with the baby, supposedly good nutritional value. Just think of all the new recipe possibilities, and recipe book publishing.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jan 2, 2014 1:09:28 GMT -5
I have referred to pizza as afterbirth on toast, but seriously?
Lee #2
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Post by Fossilman on Jan 2, 2014 11:06:50 GMT -5
Shaking head and rolling eyes!!! My daughter is into this new theory crap too... Love Oregon,but its land of the weird!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 22:47:52 GMT -5
Humans are the only mammal in which (A) the mother does not consume the placenta and (B) kicks the newborn out of the nest on day 1.
Are we making mistakes?
Or
Are we just better equipped?
Judge all you want. Isn't it the right of the mother to decide what is best for herself?
[even mammals like cows and horses consume the placenta of the young, both for nutritive value but also to avoid predators better.]
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Post by roy on Jan 3, 2014 23:20:32 GMT -5
scott you have a way of taking things to a whole new place lol!
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Post by gemfeller on Jan 3, 2014 23:35:50 GMT -5
I agree with Scott. While the idea seems repulsive to me, placenta consumption may confer some biological advantage we don't yet understand. To each her own.
I'm old enough to remember when the thymus gland was considered unimportant in newborn children and was occasionally removed surgically. We now know that it's very important in staving off various infections, i.e., "The thymus is now known to be involved in processing lymphocytes, which are crucial for the ‘cellular component’ of the immune response and also assist the provision of the ‘humoral component’ — the antibodies in the blood. It is a highly active organ in the young body, and the unique site for the selection of lymphocytes that will be ‘competent’ for this role in the immune response and for the maturation that prepares them for it."
Look before you leap.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2014 13:40:02 GMT -5
Was it the french that were making a pharmaceutical out of human placenta?
The problem w/organic compounds is that they are so complicated. In the Amazon modern man has made deep studies in to the plants consumed by the native population. And was blown away by the extensive use, amount of ailments, variety of plants they utilized. It really makes you wonder what they know. And they live hard lives but still amazingly healthy and strong. Could be activity level. But who knows...
I wonder about testing such. They may have their own FDA- fella died after- eating this plant haha. But i always wondered about early man's diet.
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Post by gemfeller on Jan 4, 2014 14:50:14 GMT -5
I wonder about testing such. They may have their own FDA- fella died after- eating this plant haha. But i always wondered about early man's diet. That's funny, but probably very close to what really happened. Shamans in many early cultures kept close track of stuff like that. Despite our own modern "sophistication," scientists now pay very close attention to "primitive" remedies and have made numerous beneficial discoveries at the "jungle pharmacy." I think there have been many very brave people over the course of human history: the first person so starved he decided to eat a lobster, the courageous soul who first sampled the flesh of a poisonous snake, the people who figured out that cyanide-laden casava/manioc tubers could be detoxified and turned into a major food, etc., etc. Rick
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 16:37:22 GMT -5
scott you have a way of taking things to a whole new place lol! It shouldn't seem strange. Sad that is does. I will not be judgemental about people making choices for themselves that effect only themselves. It's their life and I feel I have no right to judge them.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 4, 2014 18:00:15 GMT -5
I collect and tumble a lot of rocks collected by early man. They are mostly heat altered. They are high speed chips from knapping spears and tools.
They are found in forestry clear cuts where i find pottery and artifacts. There is always a lot of debitage laying
around. They are often perfect tumble size and almost always in chip form. Once got a 5 gallon bucket full from one 4 acre camp.
Point being is that i can not find such quality. I believe that their honey holes were passed down for many generations. Sites where beautiful rocks occurred.
These people lived very intimately off the land and had to know the same area for no telling how long. And passed these down for so long.
The nature of this process presents a unique situation. I bet i have picked up chips from 200-300 sites here in the SE US.
Quartzite, quartz, coral, coastal plain chert, cobble quartz, black flint, amethyst, hematite, Flint River chert. Many types of rock that they used were the highest quality.
And i never found any thing near such quality in so many locations. And it aggravated me.
So, if you apply the same reasoning to sampling plants and testing them it is a wide open door. Over so many years in the same area sampling the local plant bank.
It could get very complex. These people did not go to college and their brains were not full of book learning. They passed down their college degrees in what was learned in the woods and probably what worked. The process is so totally different. And that makes their research on a whole way way different level. What they can do in 3 days testing plant 3r5ws78 would take 2 years to get approval by the FDA. And they may have 2000 years experience as opposed to our 200 years. Failures would not involve lawsuits and regulation. Just their close intimacy with plants alone was probably a huge part of their life. They had to collect daily. They may have collected more wild foods in a week than we collect in a lifetime. And i feel certain they were not animal in behavior but had the same high level reasoning abilities that modern humans have.
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Post by vegasjames on Jan 4, 2014 18:15:05 GMT -5
As of today, new mothers can take the placenta home with the baby, supposedly good nutritional value. Just think of all the new recipe possibilities, and recipe book publishing. Humans eating the placenta (placentophagy) is nothing new. I first read about this practice among some women giving home birth about 30 years ago. The practice was mainly to replace the iron from the blood loss during the birthing process. Placenta has long been used in Chinese medicine. In Japan you can buy a placenta drink. And placenta has long been used in cosmetics among other things.
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Post by juzwuz on Jan 4, 2014 21:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by quartz on Jan 5, 2014 0:09:33 GMT -5
I had no intent to raise the hair on anyone's back by putting this up. The thing that amused me was that it was legislated, and in a fairly regional and localized sense, Oregon has a reputation of being little weird. Personally, I have long been troubled by the fact that so much knowledge of the ancients has been lost because people preferred to mistreat and obliterate them rather than study and learn from them.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 5, 2014 13:28:33 GMT -5
The subject is totally amusing Larry. I would like to see the look on your young bride's face if you brought that thing out on a silver plate just after child birth.
Would like to hear opinions from all genders on this one. My dogs eat them. We encourage if they are not interested. But most have no delay...
After the grind of child birth i am thinking the mood may not be the best in the human world.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 21:59:26 GMT -5
I had no intent to raise the hair on anyone's back by putting this up. The thing that amused me was that it was legislated, Larry Yes, exactly. Why does gov always stick it's nose into personal affairs. It's none of their business!
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