Mark K
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Post by Mark K on Apr 7, 2015 14:57:28 GMT -5
I am happy to say that it is indeed gold. I gave a sample to a gold guy I know and he says it is certainly gold. Plus I have gotten some really good sized flakes. I think that big part of the problem is that I suck at panning. If I put the sand in a jar and agitate it just right, the gold goes right to the bottom. My problem is that when I try to recover the gold from the pan it goes all over the place.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Apr 7, 2015 15:18:28 GMT -5
A little of both. We will me renting a mini track hoe, but will be hand shoveling the samples into my high banker. We have a large dry bench on the claim that I believe was never mined. The 3 to 4 foot stumps that were logged a few years back are around 200 years old. Gold rush didn't hit the Caribou till the 1860's. There is an old hard rock quartz mine on the claim next to ours. And they had it claimed up so no placer work has been done there. Hoping to hit a stringer on the bench. In stream work can only be a shovel and pan. Gravel can not be taken from a water course and processed out of the stream. Highbankers or any sluice can only be operated in "the dry" a min. of 9 meters from the high water mark. A settling pond is required if the flow back is not clean enough at re entry. thegoldprospectorsforum.ca/simplemachinesforum/index.php?board=4.0
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Post by bushmanbilly on Apr 7, 2015 15:30:57 GMT -5
I am happy to say that it is indeed gold. I gave a sample to a gold guy I know and he says it is certainly gold. Plus I have gotten some really good sized flakes. I think that big part of the problem is that I suck at panning. If I put the sand in a jar and agitate it just right, the gold goes right to the bottom. My problem is that when I try to recover the gold from the pan it goes all over the place. Nice to hear its real. Post a pic. When your back panning and the gold peeks out from the sand. Stop an tilt your pan forward and the tap the top edge(nearest to the gold) of the pan with your hand. This will make the gold sink plus move any free gold back to the pile. Always pan over another pan to catch the floaters or the ones that got away.. This vid is helpful Dirthogg and Gold Hog are not connected.
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Apr 7, 2015 15:41:01 GMT -5
Post by bushmanbilly on Apr 7, 2015 15:41:01 GMT -5
One thing he should have added to the vid when heating your gold to dry is. NEVER use a GOOD pan that you eat from. EVERY river, creek or stream has mercury in it. Being natural or used by the old timers. You might end up being a Mad Hatter.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Apr 7, 2015 16:12:05 GMT -5
I pve been watching a bunch of videos about Miller tables. I think I'm going to build one. What do you guys think of this design?
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Apr 7, 2015 16:12:58 GMT -5
Post by spiritstone on Apr 7, 2015 16:12:58 GMT -5
Sounds promising knowing the last time the area was logged and the quartz with gold? is near by. Good luck on this adventure. 1 out of 3 rules broken isnt that bad. I'll remember for next time not to pull gravel from the river.
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Apr 7, 2015 16:18:54 GMT -5
Post by spiritstone on Apr 7, 2015 16:18:54 GMT -5
Good vid Jugglerguy. To bad we couldnt see it up and running. I like how simple it was to make.
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Post by timloco on Apr 7, 2015 16:21:25 GMT -5
I have panned extremely fine flour gold out of a creek in American Fork Canyon, Utah. that stuff is so fine it will float in the surface tension of the water in the pan. Yea I've got a bottle of Goldschlager that I can shake up and the gold flakes float around in it just fine.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Apr 7, 2015 16:25:03 GMT -5
spiritstone, watch that guy's next video to see it working.
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Post by Mark K on Apr 7, 2015 16:28:11 GMT -5
You're going to love this.
I forgot about the tap tap tap.
It worked.
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Post by spiritstone on Apr 7, 2015 16:33:53 GMT -5
spiritstone, watch that guy's next video to see it working. I was just going to mention I caught part 2 at the end. If a guy was to reduce the size of the flow pipe holes and less of them, the water pressure for flow should increase. I think it would help some or i guess it wouldnt matter because of the back-splash piece. Thanks.
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Post by Mark K on Apr 7, 2015 16:45:47 GMT -5
I would say that about 75% of this is gold and the rest is yellow sand. I can't get the gold to tap to the side except for a very little bit of it. The whole mass just walks up the side. With the black sand, the gold flakes walked out of the sand and up the side like in the video, only on a much smaller scale. I am going to have to make a smelter for the torch and melt the gold into a nugget.
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Apr 7, 2015 17:43:01 GMT -5
Post by bushmanbilly on Apr 7, 2015 17:43:01 GMT -5
I pve been watching a bunch of videos about Miller tables. I think I'm going to build one. What do you guys think of this design? That looks like a great table. Chalk board paint works very well instead of the mat. If you can get your hands on a old Slate chalk board. They work the best.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 19:11:50 GMT -5
I guess I need to eat a little crow but not once did I have gold float on me and the blue bowl worked wonders lifting the black sand out (most, not all) and leaving the gold. I caught everything so I could run it a second time and never found any gold in the second run.
My back was pretty bad when I started searching for gold and by the end of the summer it was totally destroyed. Ya'll need to take care of your back. Jim
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Post by spiritstone on Apr 8, 2015 9:01:09 GMT -5
Chalk boards seem to be pretty rare in the stores these days. But I did order my Hobbico mat last night. Its worth trying out and easy to make. Thanks again for sharing that Jugglerguy.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Apr 8, 2015 16:52:18 GMT -5
spiritstone, be sure to look at the comments. He's made some improvements and there's a complete bill of materials. I'm not sure which of the two videos has the better comments, but I'd look at both of them.
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 8, 2015 18:26:42 GMT -5
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Post by mrrockpickerforever on Apr 13, 2015 21:51:58 GMT -5
Hey Mark Mark K sorry I didn't reply sooner, haven't been on the forum lately, looks like we need to make a point of running some dirt next trip to QZ. The miller tables are supposed to work great for fine gold separation. I usually just pan it down & use a sniffer bottle & tweezers. Also a neat trick if you can separate the flakes from everything else, use a dry! finger to touch the gold, it will stick to your finger, then put your finger with the flake at the opening of a small sample vial full of water, the water will make the flake drop off your finger into the vial. One of the local claims we go to has mostly flour gold, and unfortunately it also has a lot of fine bits of mica. Remember gold always looks gold but does not sparkle, mica sparkles only when the light hits it. If you use a sharp pin gold will bend, mica will shatter into many small pits. Get a good magnifier & you can really tell if it has that rounded nugget-flake shape. As a last thought I notice you are using one of the generic black gold pans, you would be doing your self a big favor if you would get one of the Super Sluice pans that have the 3-4 larger gold riffles, much easer to use without loosing all your gold. Gold is where you find it good hunting Bob
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Post by spiritstone on Apr 15, 2015 11:09:45 GMT -5
Regarding the Miller table. What do you think if I added on a Martin gold cube stop mat on the last 4 inches of a 18 inch table after the Hobbico mat, you think it would catch anything including small pickers that could slide off the Hobbico mat. Have any of you tried this rubber matting before? Thanks.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Apr 15, 2015 14:35:32 GMT -5
Regarding the Miller table. What do you think if I added on a Martin gold cube stop mat on the last 4 inches of a 18 inch table after the Hobbico mat, you think it would catch anything including small pickers that could slide off the Hobbico mat. Have any of you tried this rubber matting before? Thanks. With a miller table all the gold should stay at the top 6" of it. Just have to get the flow correct. Also use a paint brush to to move any rollers back up. They work great once you get them set. I prefer to use a cleanup sluice. It gets about 80% of the black sands out. Good advice here. Once set up properly and with the material classified into 30, 50 and 100 grit, the Blue bowl is the schizzle.
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